The Beeb - a full BBC Microcomputer emulator

RokCoder

Painter - by A&F Software (1983) - A really Nice Amidar-style game

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Last edited by RokCoder (July 9, 2023 18:00:54)

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minedude1

nice!

Elijah999999

When playing “Pengi” I noticed that first place on the “famous penguins” (the leaderboard,) says “J. F. K.” Is that part of the game, or…?

Last edited by Elijah999999 (Aug. 28, 2023 21:44:02)

No longer using the forums unless necessary.

Really, stop with the “support/no support” thing. I don't care if you give a reason. If you have a reason you don't need to add this to your post in the first place. Stop acting like your opinion makes a difference. It doesn't. Opinions were never the point. The point is whether or not it's a good suggestion. If you can give a good reason at why this is a good idea or point out a flaw, do it, but don't take sides.
This is not sarcasm.

RokCoder

Elijah999999 wrote:
When playing “Pengi” I noticed that first place on the “famous penguins” (the leaderboard,) says “J. F. K.” Is that part of the game, or…?

Ha! Possibly the game's author's initials. It would be very unusual for an old 8-bit game to save high scores as most games were on cassette tapes.

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ziqian11

When it runs into an unrecognized assembly instruction, why does the project stop?

RokCoder

ziqian11 wrote:
When it runs into an unrecognized assembly instruction, why does the project stop?

Because it's an unrecognised assembly instruction which tend to be undocumented and are only generally used in rare circumstances. What were you doing when you got the error?

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coshnaut

I found a fun little YouTube tutorial by CCH Learning, and came up with this in one of the parts!

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RokCoder

coshnaut wrote:

555345522044495300000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000004B000000020003200000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

Unfortunately it looks like you didn't save the program to the user disk. The image you've shared as a completely blank disk.

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alolagalarmeowth

Check out my… keybind? Whatever it is.

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alolagalarmeowth

I made fibonacci!

555345522044495300000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000004B000000020003200000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

(user disc import)
EDIT: nevermind, didn't work.
it was:
10 LET X=0
20 LET Y=1
30 LET Z=X+Y
40 PRINT Z
50 LET X=Y+Z
60 PRINT X
70 LET Y=Z+X
80 PRINT Y
90 GOTO 30

Last edited by alolagalarmeowth (Nov. 20, 2023 19:13:11)

RokCoder

alolagalarmeowth wrote:
EDIT: nevermind, didn't work.

You need to save the program to disk before getting the disk image. I.e. enter your code and then type

SAVE "FIBONAC"

and then save user-disk to code

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Softer_GAMEING

njdavison wrote:
Is there a way to “Paste”/Import BASIC commands containing comma(,) characters?
I realise this is a scratch bug, import list ignores everything after the comma on a line.
Typing envelope commands was a 2 person job back in the day.
E.g. PRINT TAB(X,Y) SOUND C,A,P,D ENVELOPE…

Yes. Click Cancel on which column to load.

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colinmacc

Softer_GAMEING wrote:
njdavison wrote:
Is there a way to “Paste”/Import BASIC commands containing comma(,) characters?
I realise this is a scratch bug, import list ignores everything after the comma on a line.
Typing envelope commands was a 2 person job back in the day.
E.g. PRINT TAB(X,Y) SOUND C,A,P,D ENVELOPE…
Yes. Click Cancel on which column to load.

Oh that’s good to know. I didn’t know that either!

EDIT: Ahhhh it only works in Turbowarp, not in Scratch.

Last edited by colinmacc (Feb. 7, 2024 14:17:44)

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alolagalarmeowth

I made Fibonacci!

>10 LET X=0
>20 PRINT X
>30 LET Y=1
>40 PRINT Y
>50 LET Z=X+Y
>60 PRINT Z
>70 LET X=Y+Z
>80 PRINT X
>90 LET Y=Z+X
>100 GOTO 40
>RUN

It eventually displays “line too big at line 50”, or something like that, and I'm not yet sure exactly what that means, so if anyone knows, I'd be grateful.

RokCoder

alolagalarmeowth wrote:
I made Fibonacci!

>10 LET X=0
>20 PRINT X
>30 LET Y=1
>40 PRINT Y
>50 LET Z=X+Y
>60 PRINT Z
>70 LET X=Y+Z
>80 PRINT X
>90 LET Y=Z+X
>100 GOTO 40
>RUN

It eventually displays “line too big at line 50”, or something like that, and I'm not yet sure exactly what that means, so if anyone knows, I'd be grateful.

If you run the BBC Computer Emulator project from the RokCoder website there are some useful links on the webpage.

Go to the project at https://rokcoder.com/scratch?531881458 and tap the tools tab. You'll see a drop-box where you can simply drag disk images from your file explorer to convert them to codes to paste into the editor. You'll also see a link to the BBC Micro User Guide.

On page 483 of the User Guide is the following information -

Too big - 20
A number was entered or calculated which was too large for the computer to handle.

(20 is the error number of the error “Too big”)

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gplb2718

RokCoder wrote:
njdavison wrote:
Is there a way to “Paste”/Import BASIC commands containing comma(,) characters?
I realise this is a scratch bug, import list ignores everything after the comma on a line.
Typing envelope commands was a 2 person job back in the day.
E.g. PRINT TAB(X,Y) SOUND C,A,P,D ENVELOPE…
@kriblo has asked @garbomuffin if he can remove the CSV import format from TurboWarp so it might be possible in a few days time. @garbomuffin already fixed a few Scratch bugs that were in the way of the emulation working properly (bugs in the the sound playback preventing me from emulating the sound chip and in the keyboard handler preventing me from using shift-key combos accurately). He's been extremely helpful!

I just found this, and I realized that this was what was wrong with my “Hello, World” program. The string just had a comma in it, and I didn't realize it was some CSV bug. This is what I meant on my comment last time, by the way.

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RokCoder

gplb2718 wrote:
RokCoder wrote:
njdavison wrote:
Is there a way to “Paste”/Import BASIC commands containing comma(,) characters?
I realise this is a scratch bug, import list ignores everything after the comma on a line.
Typing envelope commands was a 2 person job back in the day.
E.g. PRINT TAB(X,Y) SOUND C,A,P,D ENVELOPE…
@kriblo has asked @garbomuffin if he can remove the CSV import format from TurboWarp so it might be possible in a few days time. @garbomuffin already fixed a few Scratch bugs that were in the way of the emulation working properly (bugs in the the sound playback preventing me from emulating the sound chip and in the keyboard handler preventing me from using shift-key combos accurately). He's been extremely helpful!
I just found this, and I realized that this was what was wrong with my “Hello, World” program. The string just had a comma in it, and I didn't realize it was some CSV bug. This is what I meant on my comment last time, by the way.

Aha, thanks for letting me know

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1sebeastian

I'm having an issue. When I try to run the “test” file on this disk, it says bad program. However, if you list the disk's contents, I see nothing wrong with it.

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<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<> :: #000000> :: #000000> :: #000000> :: #000000> :: #000000> :: #000000> :: #000000> :: #000000> :: #000000> :: #000000> :: #000000> :: #000000> :: #FFFFFF> :: #FFFFFF> :: #FFFFFF> :: #FFFFFF> :: #FFFFFF> :: #FFFFFF> :: #FFFFFF> :: #FFFFFF> :: #FFFFFF> :: #FFFFFF> :: #FFFFFF> :: #FFFFFF> :: #FFFFFF> :: #FFFFFF> :: #FFFFFF> :: #FFFFFF> :: #FFFFFF> :: #FFFFFF> :: #FFFFFF> :: #FFFFFF> :: #FFFFFF> :: #FFFFFF> :: #FFFFFF> :: #FFFFFF> :: #FFFFFF> :: #FFFFFF> :: #FFFFFF> :: #FFFFFF> :: #FFFFFF> :: #FFFFFF> :: #FFFFFF> :: #000000> :: #000000> :: #000000> :: #000000> :: #000000> :: #000000> :: #000000> :: #000000

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RokCoder

1sebeastian wrote:

555345522044495354455354202020240000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000004B000000040803200000FFFF1500C0020000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000005052494E542022535543435345535321220D454E4400000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

Aha, “bad program” brings back memories! It's got corrupted somewhere along the way. These are sometimes fixable with a memory editor or there were various tools available that could sort them out (depending on how corrupted the program is).Where did you get the disk image from?

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OptimusPrime571

After playing the game War for a bit, I went back to User Disk, and it went all weird. Has anyone encountered this before?

Last edited by OptimusPrime571 (March 23, 2024 02:26:37)

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