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- NanoPIex
- Scratcher
500+ posts
Remove or update §4.4 of the ToU
AND WHO WOULD THINK TO REPORT AN EMOJI! I know because I got a message from the ST yo be respectful. i didn't know people actually read the terms of use
i know i didnt
i support btw, it doesn't make sense since that rule isn't enforced at all
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- SausageMcSauce
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Remove or update §4.4 of the ToU
The Terms of Use are heavily outdated (It was last modified in 2016 or something), so this could be implemented in a complete overhaul of the ToU.
Last edited by SausageMcSauce (Feb. 26, 2021 15:06:33)
- fdreerf
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Remove or update §4.4 of the ToU
It's kinda best to update something like a ToU when such a glaring issue is found ASAP. The Terms of Use are heavily outdated (It was last modified in 2016 or something), so this could be implemented in a complete overhaul of the ToU.
Hyped for MS-DOS 11.0
- dertermenter
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Remove or update §4.4 of the ToU
I can't believe it is not being updated. This is as important as the community guidelines!It's kinda best to update something like a ToU when such a glaring issue is found ASAP. The Terms of Use are heavily outdated (It was last modified in 2016 or something), so this could be implemented in a complete overhaul of the ToU.
All suggestions are unnecessary. If a suggestion is necessary then it's a bug report.
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- Ihatr
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Remove or update §4.4 of the ToU
Eh, the ToU is probably way less read than the guidelines because it's a big blob of text that nobody feels like reading. I don't think it's that big of a deal that it needs to be updated ASAP, but it should probably be updated when there's time.I can't believe it is not being updated. This is as important as the community guidelines!It's kinda best to update something like a ToU when such a glaring issue is found ASAP. The Terms of Use are heavily outdated (It was last modified in 2016 or something), so this could be implemented in a complete overhaul of the ToU.
- fdreerf
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Remove or update §4.4 of the ToU
It's a legal document. Scratch could theoretically ban everyone who used the 2.0 and 3.0 offline editors and nobody could do anything about it. Eh, the ToU is probably way less read than the guidelines because it's a big blob of text that nobody feels like reading. I don't think it's that big of a deal that it needs to be updated ASAP, but it should probably be updated when there's time.
Hyped for MS-DOS 11.0
- dertermenter
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Remove or update §4.4 of the ToU
Does it matter if no one reads it? It is still a important document and those cannot have misleading information.Eh, the ToU is probably way less read than the guidelines because it's a big blob of text that nobody feels like reading. I don't think it's that big of a deal that it needs to be updated ASAP, but it should probably be updated when there's time.I can't believe it is not being updated. This is as important as the community guidelines!It's kinda best to update something like a ToU when such a glaring issue is found ASAP. The Terms of Use are heavily outdated (It was last modified in 2016 or something), so this could be implemented in a complete overhaul of the ToU.
All suggestions are unnecessary. If a suggestion is necessary then it's a bug report.
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- 1Oaktree2
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Remove or update §4.4 of the ToU
Does it matter if no one reads it? It is still a important document and those cannot have misleading information. ~Snip~
Well one thing I know is that I read it, and it's mostly not enforced. People go against it all the time.
- the2000
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Remove or update §4.4 of the ToU
Yeah, that's how I feel. The Terms of Use are much, much. MUCH more important than the Community Guidelines. I think it would be better if they replaced the Community Guidelines with a “rules” page that just quotes the ToU entirely, because so many people just seem to think that the Community Guidelines are the be-all end-all rules page for Scratch.It's a legal document. Scratch could theoretically ban everyone who used the 2.0 and 3.0 offline editors and nobody could do anything about it. Eh, the ToU is probably way less read than the guidelines because it's a big blob of text that nobody feels like reading. I don't think it's that big of a deal that it needs to be updated ASAP, but it should probably be updated when there's time.
- Maximouse
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Remove or update §4.4 of the ToU
Nobody could do anything about it, even if this was fixed, becauseIt's a legal document. Scratch could theoretically ban everyone who used the 2.0 and 3.0 offline editors and nobody could do anything about it. Eh, the ToU is probably way less read than the guidelines because it's a big blob of text that nobody feels like reading. I don't think it's that big of a deal that it needs to be updated ASAP, but it should probably be updated when there's time.
The Scratch Team reserves the sole right to determine what constitutes a violation of the Terms of Use or Community Guidelines.
- ninjaMAR
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Remove or update §4.4 of the ToU
Support
They should redesign the whole ToU because it need a overhaul
They should redesign the whole ToU because it need a overhaul
- fdreerf
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Remove or update §4.4 of the ToU
Note how it says “violation of the Terms of Use”. They can't just pull some unmentioned rule out of their carp and claim that's a violation, they need some rule to back it up. At least, that's what I think make sense I'm not a lawyer Nobody could do anything about it, even if this was fixed, becauseThe Scratch Team reserves the sole right to determine what constitutes a violation of the Terms of Use or Community Guidelines.
Hyped for MS-DOS 11.0
- imfh
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Remove or update §4.4 of the ToU
Would it be a stretch to call the offline editor(s) an alternate version of “the Scratch website editor”?
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- Maximouse
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Remove or update §4.4 of the ToU
Probably. Would it be a stretch to call the offline editor(s) an alternate version of “the Scratch website editor”?
I think this allows them to add new rules (browser extension policy) without changing the Terms of Use. Note how it says “violation of the Terms of Use”. They can't just pull some unmentioned rule out of their carp and claim that's a violation, they need some rule to back it up. At least, that's what I think make sense I'm not a lawyer
- banana439monkey
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Remove or update §4.4 of the ToU
I support the removal or/and edit to this clause, however, ai would like to point out that terms of use is a legal contract between you, the user and scratch, the service. as a result, you need to write terms of use in a formal, legally-binding and unambiguous way, the reason ToU hasn't been updated is because lawyers are expensive
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- fdreerf
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Remove or update §4.4 of the ToU
Scratch was able to afford lawyers to sue some random dude for owning scratch.org before Scratch was even made and they somehow won indicating they could get really good lawyers, let alone a lawyer to update the ToU. the reason ToU hasn't been updated is because lawyers are expensive
Hyped for MS-DOS 11.0