new layer sensing blocks, <behind [sprite]?> and (layer)

GoldBackthewebAlext

StevenTheSquare wrote:
This would only work for choosing the layer of one thing, and would no longer work if you changed the layer of anything else afterwards. It would also not work if there were clones or pen in the project.

Oh *, I guess the wiki is wrong.
Then we need the block.

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Support. It gets super annoying having to track layering with lists (with the methods I currently use) and this block would save so much time and alot of resources.

I haven't read through the entire topic so I don't know if anybody's already mentioned this, but I think a new variable block like this might also be incredibly useful: reread the suggestion, it was mentioned

(layer::looks)

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Full support. Way easier than doing the roundabout way.

Sprites in the front receive broadcasts first. you can create a way to find the layer by doing this.

when green flag clicked
set [ORDER v] to [1]
broadcast [Order sprites v]

when I receive [Order sprites v]
say (ORDER)
change [ORDER v] by (1)

the sprite in the front will say 1, while the one behind will say 2 and then the one behind that 3 etc…

You can use a variable (for this sprite only) to then store whatever order they're on.

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Support! Animations and some games will be so much easier, and Thumbnails would be so easy

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Icefan13

support. Also you forgot to make the message receive block a dropdown menu.

when I receive [sprite2 in middle v] //it needs to be [sprite2 in middle v] to have the menu.

StevenTheSquare wrote:
when I receive [sprite2 in middle]

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kacre

hah, yeah I've been working on a couple big projects for a while now and what seems to make me lose interest or stop coding(bc FRUSTRATION) is always the layer code. It's really annoying how it is now and I completely agree with this suggestion.

StevenTheSquare

honestly I'm very dissappointed that this hasn't been implemented yet… there's no good workaround, it's super useful,and it has a massive support following. This and dark mode… it makes me feel like scratch team is ignoring our input.

Last edited by StevenTheSquare (Feb. 13, 2022 13:45:56)

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i would also like “sub layers” if two sprites go to the same layer than they can go to sub layers
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GoldBackthewebAlext

Icefan13 wrote:
support. Also you forgot to make the message receive block a dropdown menu.
when I receive [sprite2 in middle v] //it needs to be [sprite2 in middle v] to have the menu.
StevenTheSquare wrote:
when I receive [sprite2 in middle]

What about

when [sprite v] is [at the top v] :: hat events
when [sprite v] is [in the middle v] :: hat events // also, what if the number of sprites is even?
when [sprite v] is [at the back v] :: hat events

[scratchblocks]
when [sprite v] is [at the top v] :: hat events
when [sprite v] is [in the middle v] :: hat events // also, what if the number of sprites is even?
when [sprite v] is [at the back v] :: hat events
[/scratchblocks]

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GoldBackthewebAlext wrote:

Icefan13 wrote:
support. Also you forgot to make the message receive block a dropdown menu.
when I receive [sprite2 in middle v] //it needs to be [sprite2 in middle v] to have the menu.
StevenTheSquare wrote:
when I receive [sprite2 in middle]

What about

when [sprite v] is [at the top v] :: hat events
when [sprite v] is [in the middle v] :: hat events // also, what if the number of sprites is even?
when [sprite v] is [at the back v] :: hat events

[scratchblocks]
when [sprite v] is [at the top v] :: hat events
when [sprite v] is [in the middle v] :: hat events // also, what if the number of sprites is even?
when [sprite v] is [at the back v] :: hat events
[/scratchblocks]

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StevenTheSquare

BlackDragon450 wrote:

when green flag clicked
set x to (bacon)
forever
if <touching ((sprite1) + (player)) ?> then
set costume# to [17]
end

That's… costume, not layer? Not sure you understood the suggestion.

Also, trying to use variables as a workaround for the layer problem is incredibly complicated and doesn't really work. This is because, while two variables can be equal, two things can't be in the same layer in scratch. variables also can't take the backdrop, clones, or pen into account. local variables (variables for only this sprite) don't work to fix the clone situation, because the other sprites can't see the local variables. Even assuming you need no clones or pen, setting up a variable comparison system gets exponentially more complicated for every new sprite you create, so for projects with 6 or 7 sprites, it's crazy complicated to try to make a workaround. Imagine how crazy it would be for a project with 20 sprites, like a MAP or game!

Last edited by StevenTheSquare (March 2, 2022 04:08:53)

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