Comment Features

12944qwerty

I have a list of comments features we should include. I had another post with this but I can't find it anymore and I had more features, so….

Italics and Bold and Underline and Strikethrough
More emojis - Maybe change the emoji formatting
Some BBCode?
Editing - Could be only for scratchers or trusted ones
Shorten links
Line breaks (just make breaks that shorten into one break for lists)
Scratch Blocks

If I get more ideas I will update. Or if someone else gets an idea.

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Za-Chary

12944qwerty wrote:
Italics and Bold and Underline and Strikethrough

It would be nice to add some emphasis in comments — but it would be rather discouraging to see "THIS PROJECT IS SO BAD GRRRRRRR". I see no problems with strikethrough, though — I think that could work really well.

12944qwerty wrote:
More emojis - Maybe change the emoji formatting

We do have plenty of emojis at the moment, although more could be nice. I don't really see any prevalent benefits or downsides to this.

I don't feel like we need to change the emoji formatting, simply because the current formatting is simple, and we're all used to it.

12944qwerty wrote:
Some BBCode?

That would just make commenting unnecessarily confusing for certain things.

12944qwerty wrote:
Editing - Could be only for scratchers or trusted ones

We can't necessarily trust every Scratcher, and what would be considered a “trusted Scratcher”? Sounds like a rank above Scratcher to me, which is rejected. Editing comments is also rejected in general, anyway.

12944qwerty wrote:
Shorten links

Someone could shorten a link to an inappropriate or malicious website, and no one would be able to tell what it is without clicking on it. By then, it may be too late — a device could be full of viruses or a child could be scarred by disturbing imagery.

12944qwerty wrote:
Line breaks (just make breaks that shorten into one break for lists)

This could lead to a lot of breaks in a comment. With enough spam, it would take forever to scroll through one page of comments.

12944qwerty wrote:
Scratch Blocks

Blockspam already exists a lot on the forums — we don't need to bring it to any comments. In addition, I don't think you'd be able to make too much stuff with the 500 character limit.

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12944qwerty

Za-Chary wrote:
No support. That would just make commenting unnecessarily confusing for certain things.

Oh, just realized what you mean

Za-Chary wrote:
No support. We can't necessarily trust every Scratcher, and what would be considered a “trusted Scratcher”? Sounds like a rank above Scratcher to me, which is rejected. Editing comments is also rejected in general, anyway.

A trusted Scratcher could be someone who hasn't been reported in this type of category.

Za-Chary wrote:
No support. Someone could shorten a link to an inappropriate or malicious website, and no one would be able to tell what it is without clicking on it. By then, it may be too late — a device could be full of viruses or a child could be scarred by disturbing imagery.

Scratch already detects these types of websites. We could prevent these.

Za-Chary wrote:
… Line breaks …

(I forgot to paste this quote…..)
As I had said in the first post I made, the comments would filter spam breaks. For example:

word

word

would turn into

word

word

and

word

word

word

word

would turn into

word

word

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I'm too lazy to quote it all, so I'll just say it flatly. ;-)

I give support on italics, bold, underline and strike through. I think that'd make it easier to get certain points across via comments. In response to Za-Chary's point of doing a bolded and underlined rude comment, you would just report it like any other comment, so I see no difference.

No support on emojis just because I see no need.

No support on BB Code for the same reason as emojis - I don't feel it is necessary.

No support on editing due to the fact that it has already been discouraged, and can lead to someone saying an inappropriate term, and quickly covering it up. I think this would be counter productive to the Scratch Team's moderation system.

Support for shorten links as long as they are to the Scratch website only. If you mean to another site, then no support for the same reason as Za-Chary above.

Support for line breaks specifically in the way you described. I know of quite a few comments I make that would look a lot prettier if I could make line breaks. ;-)

No support for Scratch Blocks due to block spam.

Phew, all done! I do like a solid chunk of these suggestions!

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great_elmo

currently, we only have on comments basic text and emojis.
what I want is the ability to make comments more custom.

1. changing the text font.

I want the ability to be able to change the Font of your text in comments, the fonts would be the ones from your computer, to change the font, select from the bottom bar “change font”
2. changing the text color.

this is on the forums but not on main site comments, just highlight the part of the comment text you want coloured and click “change color”
3. pictures in comments.

click “import image” from the bottom bar and select a image, if it detects the photo is inappropriate, it will block it.
4. some BBCode

quote/ center/ list/ and code/ will be on comments
5. More emojis

Here they are: these should be on main site comments
6. scratchblocks

to use scratch blocks, click the button that says “scratch blocks” and select a block!
7. text styles!
bold italic underline and strikethrough will be on comments, to use them, highlight the text part and click the button reading “text styles” and select a text style!
8. lists.

lists should be on the main site comments, but they are not, to use it, click the list buttons and type away with a list!
9. text size

This is also on the forums, but NOT on comments. to use it, click the bright red A on the toolbar and select a text size!
10. paste OS/browser.

this is also NOT on comments, but on forum posts, to use it, click the black earth, and see your browser and OS!

here are the long list of colours:
eggplant purple.
blueberry blue.
Snow White. (not to be confused with Snow White from Disney)
tungsten grey.
asparagus yellow.
midnight blue.
ocean blue.
cayenne red.
clover green.
fern green.
orchid purple.
grape purple.
lemon yellow.
spring green.
licorice black.
ice blue.

Q: couldn't #3 be used for spam.
A: yes, but there will be a limit of 1 image per comment.

EDIT: A list is a forum item that looks like this:

1
2
3
4
and 5

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LegoManiac04

great_elmo wrote:
1. changing the text font.

Support. I'm honestly kinda surprised that this doesn't already exist.

great_elmo wrote:
2. changing the text color.

Semi-Support. I think this would be kinda cool, but people could use high contrast colors, which wouldn't be cool…

great_elmo wrote:
3. pictures in comments.

No Support. People could easily spam people with bunches of images in comments. While I do think this would be kinda nice, I feel the cons outweigh the pros… Also, how would it “detect” if it's inappropriate?

great_elmo

LegoManiac04 wrote:
great_elmo wrote:
1. changing the text font.
Support. I'm honestly kinda surprised that this doesn't already exist.
great_elmo wrote:
2. changing the text color.
Semi-Support. I think this would be kinda cool, but people could use high contrast colors, which wouldn't be cool…
great_elmo wrote:
3. pictures in comments.
No Support. People could easily spam people with bunches of images in comments. While I do think this would be kinda nice, I feel the cons outweigh the pros… Also, how would it “detect” if it's inappropriate?

the bad word detector will also work to detect if a image is offensive, + there will be a limit of 4 images per comment.

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My only concern with 1 is that it could take some extra work to implement. Otherwise, I agree with @LegoManiac04.

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great_elmo wrote:
LegoManiac04 wrote:
great_elmo wrote:
1. changing the text font.
Support. I'm honestly kinda surprised that this doesn't already exist.
great_elmo wrote:
2. changing the text color.
Semi-Support. I think this would be kinda cool, but people could use high contrast colors, which wouldn't be cool…
great_elmo wrote:
3. pictures in comments.
No Support. People could easily spam people with bunches of images in comments. While I do think this would be kinda nice, I feel the cons outweigh the pros… Also, how would it “detect” if it's inappropriate?
the bad word detector will also work to detect if a image is offensive, + there will be a limit of 4 images per comment.

4.

4 is way too much.

This could happen.

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Support for 1 and 2. They seem interesting, though I don't know how useful they would be.

No support for 3: an AI that could accurately detect inappropriate images would be completely unfeasible, if not downright impossible.

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whiteandblackcat

great_elmo wrote:
No Support. People could easily spam people with bunches of images in comments. While I do think this would be kinda nice, I feel the cons outweigh the pros… Also, how would it “detect” if it's inappropriate?
the bad word detector will also work to detect if a image is offensive, + there will be a limit of 4 images per comment.

There hasn't really been any AI developed that can accurately detect the content of images. Currently for most AI, changing a few pixels can mean the AI will completely mis-label the image.

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Support, except for images. Images would only be used for advertising.

Filereq

LegoManiac04 wrote:
great_elmo wrote:
1. changing the text font.
Support. I'm honestly kinda surprised that this doesn't already exist.
great_elmo wrote:
2. changing the text color.
Semi-Support. I think this would be kinda cool, but people could use high contrast colors, which wouldn't be cool…
great_elmo wrote:
3. pictures in comments.
No Support. People could easily spam people with bunches of images in comments. While I do think this would be kinda nice, I feel the cons outweigh the pros… Also, how would it “detect” if it's inappropriate?

CleanSpeak probably detects inappriopriate pictures, too.

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Filereq wrote:
CleanSpeak probably detects inappriopriate pictures, too.

I doubt it

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Za-Chary

whiteandblackcat wrote:
Filereq wrote:
CleanSpeak probably detects inappriopriate pictures, too.
I doubt it

Agreed.

I'd say it's nearly impossible for a computer to detect whether an image is inappropriate. Such comments on Scratch would have to be moderated entirely by humans, for sure.

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Za-Chary wrote:
whiteandblackcat wrote:
Filereq wrote:
CleanSpeak probably detects inappriopriate pictures, too.
I doubt it
Agreed.

I'd say it's nearly impossible for a computer to detect whether an image is inappropriate. Such comments on Scratch would have to be moderated entirely by humans, for sure.

Computers haven't gotten that good

yet

In your suggestion, something that you missed out on that I would've supported would be the inclusion of bold, italic and underline text, since I think if we were to make comments more customisable, I would much choose that over a custom font selection, which would kind of ruin the page's design if someone were to use a ton of fonts for a comment, and having the ability to import images should stay in the forums. Support for the colors if you can input a hexadecimal code to get a custom color - I'm sure there is some use to that.

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LegoManiac04 wrote:
Semi-Support. I think this would be kinda cool, but people could use high contrast colors, which wouldn't be cool…

That's why we need dark mode.

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