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banana439monkey
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[PLEASE DO NOT PROTEST THE PURPLE] An option in account settings to change the site's theme and navigation bar colour

If the Scratch Team is reading this, here are a few points to make:
I managed to catch wind that the current idea is presets only, and one of your concerns with having a completely customisable navigation bar background is that text colour may not be visible with some backgrounds, and as a result, https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3942878/how-to-decide-font-color-in-white-or-black-depending-on-background-color might help with that situation.
Server space shouldn't be a huge issue since MySQL stores tiny integers as binary

Okay, this should be implemented when the skin is pushed to the whole site, but here are a few reasons why this should happen:

Scratch Wiki:
The wiki has it. Why shouldn't we have it?

A nice feature:
It gives users the freedom to break free from the purple and use a colour they may prefer

Simple:
It's somewhat simple. All you need to do is have a box requesting a colour code, or a colour name and it inputs it into a variable. That then extracts to the navigation bar and text colour.

Okay, but what if someone's set it to light grey, or white?
Then the site would automatically notice and change the text colour and colour of the messages and my stuff buttons on the navigation bar to black.

What about the default colour? What would it be?
Good question there. It would be the colour we have now. #855cd6 - purple. The text would automatically be in this text box.

What if a user is logged out?
It works the same as the wiki. You can't change it when logged out.

Use extensions!!!
Okay, there are people who are lazy in this world. Aside from being lazy, those extensions are only local, they don't apply to everywhere. I want to see this being quick and simple to set. I want to be able to log into a library all the way over in London (I live in the West Midlands) and still immediately see Scratch in dark theme as soon as I log into it. No tooling around or anything. Long story stort, I'm a productivity guy. When doing things, I find the quickest way to do it to save time, because it matters!

Lemme elaborate even more:
An option in account settings to change the skin's colour. This text box's contents, when applied will be imported into a variable and the text colour and navigation bar would change to that colour. This text box should also be accompanied by a colour picker that includes the full sRGB colour spectrum (thanks kenny2scratch for the idea). A list of pre-sets could be given for the user to click on, in order for that user to select a colour of their choice (although the comprehensive sRGB colour picker should absolutely still be present; thanks Vetzlan for the idea).That's pretty simple, right? Right so far. On top of that, though another suggestion, it's still concerning the skin itself. Here's an example screenshot of the homepage with another colour:

This could be implemented in account settings with a user experience similar to this:

Clicking on the colour picker would open this:


Anyway, here's my other idea. Dark theme. In account settings, there would be an option to switch to and from dark theme and light theme. Here's a screenshot of dark theme:

Here's a guide of the colours used:
Non-links/navigation bar links: #ffffff
Section headers: #24292e then #000000
Links: default
Background/section backgrounds/footer: #24292e

It also may be an idea to introduce this to the editor as well, since it's as (if not more) important as the website itself. The whole theme would synchronise across the whole site including the editor.

If you do get the option to actually log into the 3.0 offline editor (which would be cool), it would be cool to synchronise this idea to there.

Thoughts?

Banana

Last edited by banana439monkey (March 28, 2024 09:57:20)


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[PLEASE DO NOT PROTEST THE PURPLE] An option in account settings to change the site's theme and navigation bar colour

Support. While it isn't a very big deal, it would be nice to be able to change the color of the navigation bar.

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[PLEASE DO NOT PROTEST THE PURPLE] An option in account settings to change the site's theme and navigation bar colour

SUPPORT!
This would make things look better and there would be more individuality.
Would you be able to change the taskbar colour in the dark theme, though?
Because I think navy blue would look awesome with the dark theme.
Wow, that does look cool!

Last edited by KJRYoshi07 (Aug. 28, 2018 08:25:27)


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[PLEASE DO NOT PROTEST THE PURPLE] An option in account settings to change the site's theme and navigation bar colour

Semi-support. It's nice, but I don't see it being a priority seeing as it's more of a cosmetic thing. However, I do fully support for a dark theme as it would make the site easier to read at night or for those with sensory issues involving bright screens.

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[PLEASE DO NOT PROTEST THE PURPLE] An option in account settings to change the site's theme and navigation bar colour

KJRYoshi07 wrote:

SUPPORT!
This would make things look better and there would be more individuality.
Would you be able to change the taskbar colour in the dark theme, though?
Because I think navy blue would look awesome with the dark theme.
No. Maybe? I don't know Probably would look ugly if you had red in dark theme, as I tried when using inspect element. That homepage sure is hard to recognise.

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[PLEASE DO NOT PROTEST THE PURPLE] An option in account settings to change the site's theme and navigation bar colour

banana439monkey wrote:

KJRYoshi07 wrote:

SUPPORT!
This would make things look better and there would be more individuality.
Would you be able to change the taskbar colour in the dark theme, though?
Because I think navy blue would look awesome with the dark theme.
No. Maybe? I don't know Probably would look ugly if you had red in dark theme, as I tried when using inspect element. That homepage sure is hard to recognise.

Banana
I still think there should be a choice of if you wanted to have a coloured taskbar in dark theme.
And how do you change the colour in inspect element?

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banana439monkey
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[PLEASE DO NOT PROTEST THE PURPLE] An option in account settings to change the site's theme and navigation bar colour

KJRYoshi07 wrote:

banana439monkey wrote:

KJRYoshi07 wrote:

SUPPORT!
This would make things look better and there would be more individuality.
Would you be able to change the taskbar colour in the dark theme, though?
Because I think navy blue would look awesome with the dark theme.
No. Maybe? I don't know Probably would look ugly if you had red in dark theme, as I tried when using inspect element. That homepage sure is hard to recognise.

Banana
I still think there should be a choice of if you wanted to have a coloured taskbar in dark theme.
And how do you change the colour in inspect element?
It's a navigation bar.

Anyway, it's in the CSS area.

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[PLEASE DO NOT PROTEST THE PURPLE] An option in account settings to change the site's theme and navigation bar colour

why what you can do that I on the wiki? Okay changing my skin on the wiki rn

Support!

I’m just a little concerned that the 8 year old kids of Scratch would want to customize their skins, but type in ”dark orange” rather than #b35000, and then there would be a bit of confusion, but I’m sure they’ll get it if they ask someone who understands hex colours.

cough cough

I mean maybe Scratch would take dark orange as a color, but other less heard of colours like periwinkle or lavender may suffer.

Last edited by EcIipsed (March 25, 2018 06:00:42)

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[PLEASE DO NOT PROTEST THE PURPLE] An option in account settings to change the site's theme and navigation bar colour

EcIipsed wrote:

why what you can do that I on the wiki? Okay changing my skin on the wiki rn

Support!

I’m just a little concerned that the 8 year old kids of Scratch would want to customize their skins, but type in ”dark orange” rather than #b35000, and then there would be a bit of confusion, but I’m sure they’ll get it if they ask someone who understands hex colours.

cough cough

I mean maybe Scratch would take dark orange as a color, but other less heard of colours like periwinkle or lavender may suffer.
Possibly it's darkorange? Lemme test something

This is dark orange
This is lavender
This is periwinkle, whatever that is

Banana

EDIT: Yeah, a young child? That's a point, but asking a Scratch Team member, or a HTML programmer, or anyone else that knows hex colours will help them out of this sticky situation.

Last edited by banana439monkey (March 25, 2018 07:26:23)


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[PLEASE DO NOT PROTEST THE PURPLE] An option in account settings to change the site's theme and navigation bar colour

I actually think the look of Scratch is pretty nice, but I guess support because I know people who would like it and it's not like I have to use it.

Edit: No support for not being able to edit it when logged out.

Last edited by python_megapixel (March 25, 2018 08:00:29)


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[PLEASE DO NOT PROTEST THE PURPLE] An option in account settings to change the site's theme and navigation bar colour

I think it's fine as it is now, but semi-support. It can be cool to see your favourites colors in the homepage and other pages.

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[PLEASE DO NOT PROTEST THE PURPLE] An option in account settings to change the site's theme and navigation bar colour

python_megapixel wrote:

I actually think the look of Scratch is pretty nice, but I guess support because I know people who would like it and it's not like I have to use it.

Edit: No support for not being able to edit it when logged out.
But it's in account settings. How do you expect to be able to edit that stuff logged out? MediaWiki doesn't allow it, so why should we?

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[PLEASE DO NOT PROTEST THE PURPLE] An option in account settings to change the site's theme and navigation bar colour

Gosh, everyone just loves the new SWS features, don't they?

Support for changing header color - but I'd rather have a color picker thing (like the SWS currently has) rather than a text box, as it gives better control over the color (and uses the system's color picker).

python_megapixel wrote:

No support for not being able to edit it when logged out.
Where would the setting be stored when logged out, then?

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[PLEASE DO NOT PROTEST THE PURPLE] An option in account settings to change the site's theme and navigation bar colour

kenny2scratch wrote:

Gosh, everyone just loves the new SWS features, don't they?

Support for changing header color - but I'd rather have a color picker thing (like the SWS currently has) rather than a text box, as it gives better control over the color (and uses the system's color picker).

python_megapixel wrote:

No support for not being able to edit it when logged out.
Where would the setting be stored when logged out, then?
This was an idea but I was bringing it back up from a few years ago. I also tweaked it

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[PLEASE DO NOT PROTEST THE PURPLE] An option in account settings to change the site's theme and navigation bar colour

Semi-support, that would be nice, but you can also easily change the color with a website style extension and edit the css of the navigation bar color (google it)
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LLDeluxe wrote:

Semi-support, that would be nice, but you can also easily change the color with a website style extension and edit the css of the navigation bar color (google it)
You can also do that for the Wiki, but since the Wiki has a built-in option for it this suggestion's rationale is “if the Wiki has it why should the main site?”.

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[PLEASE DO NOT PROTEST THE PURPLE] An option in account settings to change the site's theme and navigation bar colour

LLDeluxe wrote:

Semi-support, that would be nice, but you can also easily change the color with a website style extension and edit the css of the navigation bar color (google it)
But that's locally.

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