Have USB controllers added to extensions

venyanwarrior

I have an Xbox One, and I regularly use the controllers to play computer games on my mac with a driver. I think that controllers could work if the extension thinks that the Right stick is the arrow keys, and the Left stick is wasd. For PS4 It's even easier because it uses Bluetooth. no driver needed.
I would be happy if someone wanted to work with me on this.

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kenny2scratch

You mean supporting the extra buttons on games console controllers? That seems like a cool idea, but keep in mind that people with controllers can simply map the buttons to keyboard keys.

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I-Iz-A-Litten

Support, it would give my universal controller a use.

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Botcho_Otkho

Support,it would introduce a new way of playing games.

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SArpnt

venyanwarrior wrote:
I have an Xbox One, and I regularly use the controllers to play computer games on my mac with a driver. I think that controllers could work if the extension thinks that the Right stick is the arrow keys, and the Left stick is wasd. For PS4 It's even easier because it uses Bluetooth. no driver needed.
I would be happy if someone wanted to work with me on this.

a small problem with these is that i want analog support too. the only analog input on scratch is the mouse, which allows for 2 axis of movement. an xbox controller has 10 axis of movement. also, i would prefer if the buttons on a controller and keyboard were separate. finally, i don't believe most people on scratch would be able to properly set up joy2key.

when I see [thing v] :: hat :: events
if <(thing :: sensing) is upgradable?> then
set [old thing v] to (thing :: sensing)
upgrade (thing :: sensing) :: control
if <(awesomeness of (thing :: sensing) :: operators) < (awesomeness of (old thing) :: operators)> then
go back :: control
if <not<(thing :: sensing) = (old thing)>> then
GO BACK :: control
end
end
else
look for [things v] :: motion
end

Meowlit12

SArpnt wrote:
venyanwarrior wrote:
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a small problem with these is that i want analog support too. the only analog input on scratch is the mouse, which allows for 2 axis of movement. an xbox controller has 10 axis of movement. also, i would prefer if the buttons on a controller and keyboard were separate. finally, i don't believe most people on scratch would be able to properly set up joy2key.

Also, JoytoKey requires a license after a trial period.

LordOfMuffins

What about Bluetooth controllers? The Nintendo Switch Joy-cons are Bluetooth and can be used with emulators, phones, computers, etc.

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SArpnt

LordOfMuffins wrote:
What about Bluetooth controllers? The Nintendo Switch Joy-cons are Bluetooth and can be used with emulators, phones, computers, etc.

this would depend if scratch would be able to detect it. iif someone can show that it would be possible in html (the programming language for scratch 3) then i'll update the post.

when I see [thing v] :: hat :: events
if <(thing :: sensing) is upgradable?> then
set [old thing v] to (thing :: sensing)
upgrade (thing :: sensing) :: control
if <(awesomeness of (thing :: sensing) :: operators) < (awesomeness of (old thing) :: operators)> then
go back :: control
if <not<(thing :: sensing) = (old thing)>> then
GO BACK :: control
end
end
else
look for [things v] :: motion
end

SArpnt

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when I see [thing v] :: hat :: events
if <(thing :: sensing) is upgradable?> then
set [old thing v] to (thing :: sensing)
upgrade (thing :: sensing) :: control
if <(awesomeness of (thing :: sensing) :: operators) < (awesomeness of (old thing) :: operators)> then
go back :: control
if <not<(thing :: sensing) = (old thing)>> then
GO BACK :: control
end
end
else
look for [things v] :: motion
end

BunnyMan64

It is interesting though I not sure if Scratch will add it. Semi-support. As much as I love using a controller, I not sure if all will work well on it but it depends on how well Scratch Team added that feature otherwise I think it is for ScratchX.

Monniasza_spzoo

There should be universal extension for controllers:

when button [1 v] on controller [1 v] pressed :: extension hat
<button (1 v) on controller (1 v) pressed? :: extension>
(axis (1 v) on controller  (1 v) :: extension)

Last edited by Monniasza_spzoo (April 21, 2019 14:51:02)

Luvexina

Support! This will be much easier to add in Scratch 3.0 because it uses HTML5 and JavaScript.

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openPoll

Whilst I support, because of all the reasons above, it probably won't be added since the Scratch Team would have to get licenses from the companies owning the patents for the controllers to use them in Scratch. And knowing how money-hungry the companies (Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo) producing the most wanted controllers (Xbox 360 and One controllers, DUALSHOCK™ 4 controllers, Joy-Con™ and Nintendo Switch Pro Controller), they would not give permission because people could emulate their games on Scratch for FREE.

It is a shame.

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AFNNetworkK12

Monniasza_spzoo wrote:
There should be universal extension for controllers:
when button [1 v] on controller [1 v] pressed :: extension hat
<button (1 v) on controller (1 v) pressed? :: extension>
(axis (1 v) on controller  (1 v) :: extension)

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Last edited by AFNNetworkK12 (April 21, 2019 19:32:06)

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openPoll

AFNNetworkK12 wrote:
Monniasza_spzoo wrote:
There should be universal extension for controllers:
when button [1 v] on controller [1 v] pressed :: extension hat
<button (1 v) on controller (1 v) pressed? :: extension>
(axis (1 v) on controller  (1 v) :: extension)
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AFNNetworkK12

openPoll wrote:
AFNNetworkK12 wrote:
Monniasza_spzoo wrote:
There should be universal extension for controllers:
when button [1 v] on controller [1 v] pressed :: extension hat
<button (1 v) on controller (1 v) pressed? :: extension>
(axis (1 v) on controller  (1 v) :: extension)
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AirWay1

Controllers are very good for games, as they have multiple buttons, and are easy to grasp.

Please add!

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Truck11111

Support.

openPoll wrote:
Whilst I support, because of all the reasons above, it probably won't be added since the Scratch Team would have to get licenses from the companies owning the patents for the controllers to use them in Scratch. And knowing how money-hungry the companies (Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo) producing the most wanted controllers (Xbox 360 and One controllers, DUALSHOCK™ 4 controllers, Joy-Con™ and Nintendo Switch Pro Controller), they would not give permission because people could emulate their games on Scratch for FREE.

It is a shame.

What if Scratch made their own controllers?

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openPoll

Truck11111 wrote:
Support.
openPoll wrote:
Whilst I support, because of all the reasons above, it probably won't be added since the Scratch Team would have to get licenses from the companies owning the patents for the controllers to use them in Scratch. And knowing how money-hungry the companies (Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo) producing the most wanted controllers (Xbox 360 and One controllers, DUALSHOCK™ 4 controllers, Joy-Con™ and Nintendo Switch Pro Controller), they would not give permission because people could emulate their games on Scratch for FREE.

It is a shame.
What if Scratch made their own controllers?

I… Was just thinking about that. They work at MIT, so they already have a team to do that there
But how would they mass produce them?

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epicRedHot

Truck11111 wrote:
Support.
openPoll wrote:
Whilst I support, because of all the reasons above, it probably won't be added since the Scratch Team would have to get licenses from the companies owning the patents for the controllers to use them in Scratch. And knowing how money-hungry the companies (Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo) producing the most wanted controllers (Xbox 360 and One controllers, DUALSHOCK™ 4 controllers, Joy-Con™ and Nintendo Switch Pro Controller), they would not give permission because people could emulate their games on Scratch for FREE.

It is a shame.
What if Scratch made their own controllers?

While I'm not to sure of the legality of Scratch “ports” (note that I'm using the term very loosely here, as making near 1:1 recreations of even the simplest NES games requires far more knowledge than the majority of Scratch users have), there should be no reason to require specific “Scratch Controllers” for this extension to be added, as over 99% of the industry's main controllers use the same input types, being XInput and DInput.

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