Have USB controllers added to extensions

Kraken_Games

Support. I think if they made a scratch controller it would be very cool, and open up new ways to make/play games

Monniasza_spzoo

https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/post/3520875/

Extension is universal and doesn't promote or use any specific brand of controller.

LucasLovesTacos

Maybe you could have something like:

assign [Controller 1 v] to player [1 v]

So you can set players easily.

Monniasza_spzoo

Truck11111 wrote:
Support.
openPoll wrote:
Whilst I support, because of all the reasons above, it probably won't be added since the Scratch Team would have to get licenses from the companies owning the patents for the controllers to use them in Scratch. And knowing how money-hungry the companies (Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo) producing the most wanted controllers (Xbox 360 and One controllers, DUALSHOCK™ 4 controllers, Joy-Con™ and Nintendo Switch Pro Controller), they would not give permission because people could emulate their games on Scratch for FREE.

It is a shame.
What if Scratch made their own controllers?

Scratch is too slow for 4K HDR graphics, currently present in modern console games.

scubastudentcha

How about Bluetooth? like WiiMotes?

LiberlandAnimations

It's possible that they could just create some way of detecting all controllers, not any specific ones, like how JoyToKey does it. JoyToKey works with a lot of controllers because they support similar button functions.

epicRedHot

LiberlandAnimations wrote:
It's possible that they could just create some way of detecting all controllers, not any specific ones, like how JoyToKey does it. JoyToKey works with a lot of controllers because they support similar button functions.

Specifically, modern controllers from at least the Gamecube/Xbox/PS2 era onwards use either XInput or DInput to transmit data to the computer/console, since they're a standardized way of broadcasting controller inputs.

mobluse

Support!

I don't think patents will be a problem when making an extension for USB joysticks/gamepads since they work in Linux which is a free operating system.

There is a system, THEC64 MINI, that supports rather many joysticks/gamepads and that uses some strings to assign functions to the buttons of the joystick/gamepad. This is documented here:
https://retrogames.biz/support/file-loader/

A similar system could be used for a game controller extension.

GullumIncComicz

Support, my controller would be much more useful.

c_l_0

What do you mean by “USB controllers”?

DerpyHead0

c_l_0 wrote:
What do you mean by “USB controllers”?

This.
pretty much any kind of controller you can think of can be hooked up to a computer in some way, since all inputs can be boiled down to buttons, hats, and axis.

even mouse and keyboard count as controllers!

Minescratcher367

Truck11111 wrote:
Support.
openPoll wrote:
Whilst I support, because of all the reasons above, it probably won't be added since the Scratch Team would have to get licenses from the companies owning the patents for the controllers to use them in Scratch. And knowing how money-hungry the companies (Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo) producing the most wanted controllers (Xbox 360 and One controllers, DUALSHOCK™ 4 controllers, Joy-Con™ and Nintendo Switch Pro Controller), they would not give permission because people could emulate their games on Scratch for FREE.

It is a shame.
What if Scratch made their own controllers?

Done.

scubastudentcha

put Bluetooth remotes as well, like Wii remotes, and that's all I can think of.

say [Wii remotes need to be added!]

AirWay1

Just making this topic alive again, I believe this would add plenty of options for curators (like me and you) to curate projects like never before. Some creative Scratchers can also use this block to their advantage too.

With only a few downsides (Con-Only projects and Pricing), it's really a life-saver for some people.

DerpyHead0

AirWay1 wrote:
With only a few downsides (Con-Only projects and Pricing), it's really a life-saver for some people.

most projects can't be played on phone, and some projects are easier to play on phone than with a mouse, but you can still use scratch on mobile.
the key is that if you can't play a project, you won't.

AirWay1

How about making it a rule to ensure that the Con-Only projects are not allowed, otherwise they will be NFE projects. Meaning they will have to add some other control scheme too. Plus for some controllers, you can use Bluetooth to link it to a phone, right?

non-swimmer248

AirWay1 wrote:
How about making it a rule to ensure that the Con-Only projects are not allowed, otherwise they will be NFE projects. Meaning they will have to add some other control scheme too. Plus for some controllers, you can use Bluetooth to link it to a phone, right?

why exactly? that would mean you couldn't use both joysticks, as that would be a thing keyboards couldn't do. And NFE means kids shouldn't be exposed to it. and as for the argument of people not being able to play it, are you telling me a project that is specifically built to utilize the lego wedo should be marked NFE? that just seems odd. granted, it would be kind of useful if those projects had to have a warning that you needed them, but getting marked NFE for causing a slight inconvenience to a fraction of the community? seems unreasonable.

LucasLovesTacos

non-swimmer248 wrote:
AirWay1 wrote:
How about making it a rule to ensure that the Con-Only projects are not allowed, otherwise they will be NFE projects. Meaning they will have to add some other control scheme too. Plus for some controllers, you can use Bluetooth to link it to a phone, right?
why exactly? that would mean you couldn't use both joysticks, as that would be a thing keyboards couldn't do. And NFE means kids shouldn't be exposed to it. and as for the argument of people not being able to play it, are you telling me a project that is specifically built to utilize the lego wedo should be marked NFE? that just seems odd. granted, it would be kind of useful if those projects had to have a warning that you needed them, but getting marked NFE for causing a slight inconvenience to a fraction of the community? seems unreasonable.

NFE isnt just for not kid friendly projects
scratch team puts projects on there that might not be accessible to everyone or may exclude groups in some way
thats why theyre NOT FOR EVERYONE

AirWay1

I agree with Lucas, NFE can mean more than one meaning, as non-kid friendly or non-accessible.

AirWay1

The addition of the new controller can be a new way to play some old favorites as well as new. There can also be unique concepts that can be further expanded with a controller.

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