Have USB controllers added to extensions

starlightsparker

joe1718 wrote:
Hold the phone! If it is actually rejected on The Official List of Rejected Suggestions, then this is impossible convincing the Scratch Team, right?

There’s a difference between this and consoles.

joe1718

MagicCoder330 wrote:
As I (and many, many more) have stated, this is a great suggestion that should be added and has been seen by the ST many times too.

However, it has become more and more apparent that no more constructive discussion is happening in this topic, and the ST has already seen it, I don't see any reason to keep it open anymore if all thats happening is people saying support without adding to the conversation.

I agree with you, I understand that all of us love the idea of this being added to scratch, but the Scratch team has already seen this post and even said on the list of rejected things that they won't add this.

Last edited by joe1718 (Sept. 7, 2024 14:19:09)

joe1718

starlightsparker wrote:
joe1718 wrote:
Hold the phone! If it is actually rejected on The Official List of Rejected Suggestions, then this is impossible convincing the Scratch Team, right?
There’s a difference between this and consoles.

Wtym?

RobotChickens

joe1718 wrote:
(#2824)
starlightsparker wrote:
joe1718 wrote:
Hold the phone! If it is actually rejected on The Official List of Rejected Suggestions, then this is impossible convincing the Scratch Team, right?
There’s a difference between this and consoles.
Wtym?

This suggestion is to support connecting a controller to a computer and being able to use analog, rumble and other controller features, built into scratch.

joe1718

RobotChickens wrote:
This suggestion is to support connecting a controller to a computer and being able to use analog, rumble and other controller features, built into scratch.

Oh sorry my bad, I didn't read that it said scratch on consoles.

W1THRD

brun7 wrote:
I support! This would make multiplayer games that little bit easier. I'm not sure Nintendo will be on board for their Joy-Cons being compatible with anything else other than the Switch, though.

Nintendo is fine with it, believe me. There's already tons of third-party tools, including BetterJoy and even steam. In fact, some platforms don't even need a third-party tool to use the switch controllers, but they just support them automatically, out-of-the-box.

RobotChickens

W1THRD wrote:
Nintendo is fine with it, believe me. There's already tons of third-party tools, including BetterJoy and even steam. In fact, some platforms don't even need a third-party tool to use the switch controllers, but they just support them automatically, out-of-the-box.

If you think about it, It would be kinda crazy if companies controlled what you could and couldn't use their devices with. You bought it, so you get to use it how you want!

W1THRD

RobotChickens wrote:
W1THRD wrote:
Nintendo is fine with it, believe me. There's already tons of third-party tools, including BetterJoy and even steam. In fact, some platforms don't even need a third-party tool to use the switch controllers, but they just support them automatically, out-of-the-box.
If you think about it, It would be kinda crazy if companies controlled what you could and couldn't use their devices with. You bought it, so you get to use it how you want!

Exactly! Nintendo's controllers use Bluetooth and USB- those are open standards! They have no intellectual property over those protocols, so I can't possibly imagine nintendo would be angry.

RobotChickens

W1THRD wrote:
(#2828)
RobotChickens wrote:
W1THRD wrote:
Nintendo is fine with it, believe me. There's already tons of third-party tools, including BetterJoy and even steam. In fact, some platforms don't even need a third-party tool to use the switch controllers, but they just support them automatically, out-of-the-box.
If you think about it, It would be kinda crazy if companies controlled what you could and couldn't use their devices with. You bought it, so you get to use it how you want!
Exactly! Nintendo's controllers use Bluetooth and USB- those are open standards! They have no intellectual property over those protocols, so I can't possibly imagine nintendo would be angry.

Yeah! Who would do such a thing!!
*cough* *cough* apple *cough* lightning *cough* getting apple to switch to USB-C was like pulling teeth *cough*
It's not like mega-corporations are making billions in cash off of MFI device certifications or anything… Oh wait.
Are there any MFI (Made For Iphone) gamepads out there with a lightning port??
Edit: There's no way… And, according to reviews, you need a 3rd party app to get it to work on PC!

Talk about comparability!!

Last edited by RobotChickens (Sept. 19, 2024 04:29:29)

brun7

W1THRD wrote:
RobotChickens wrote:
W1THRD wrote:
Nintendo is fine with it, believe me. There's already tons of third-party tools, including BetterJoy and even steam. In fact, some platforms don't even need a third-party tool to use the switch controllers, but they just support them automatically, out-of-the-box.
If you think about it, It would be kinda crazy if companies controlled what you could and couldn't use their devices with. You bought it, so you get to use it how you want!
Exactly! Nintendo's controllers use Bluetooth and USB- those are open standards! They have no intellectual property over those protocols, so I can't possibly imagine nintendo would be angry.

Okay, I see now, that makes sense. If the Scratch Team accepts this suggestion, I think we can be fairly confident Joy-Cons will be compatible!

Edit: Maybe. You never know with Nintendo. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Last edited by brun7 (Sept. 19, 2024 04:22:19)

RobotChickens

brun7 wrote:
(#2830)
W1THRD wrote:
RobotChickens wrote:
W1THRD wrote:
Nintendo is fine with it, believe me. There's already tons of third-party tools, including BetterJoy and even steam. In fact, some platforms don't even need a third-party tool to use the switch controllers, but they just support them automatically, out-of-the-box.
If you think about it, It would be kinda crazy if companies controlled what you could and couldn't use their devices with. You bought it, so you get to use it how you want!
Exactly! Nintendo's controllers use Bluetooth and USB- those are open standards! They have no intellectual property over those protocols, so I can't possibly imagine nintendo would be angry.
Okay, I see now, that makes sense. If the Scratch Team accepts this suggestion, I think we can be fairly confident Joy-Cons will be compatible!

Edit: Maybe. You never know with Nintendo. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Although… One thing from Nintendo definitely won't work is wiimotes (unless special software tools are involved,)

W1THRD

RobotChickens wrote:
Although… One thing from Nintendo definitely won't work is wiimotes (unless special software tools are involved,)

The wiimotes use Bluetooth. A lot of modern sensor bars (like the dolphinbar) are also Bluetooth adapters that will automatically make wiimotes work with your PC as regular controllers. Also, the dolphin emulator supports wiimotes, so we could just use some of their code.

Last edited by W1THRD (Sept. 19, 2024 12:18:13)

Mikael99109

Support! This would lead to much creativity, allowing the sigmas of Scratch to create even more projects! It will help them come up with ideas beyond the typical scope and will make it more complicated for skibidis to fanum tax their projects! I think this suggestion is a W!

How-To-Do-Everything

I support the addition of USB Controllers because I happen to own a large number of them, and I would find it exhilarating to be able to play my games that I have made with a controller, or to make new games with the aforementioned extension.

Also, please ignore the people saying that words like Skibidi are swear-words. They are purposely trying to press your buttons.

USBGamepad

How-To-Do-Everything wrote:
(#2848)
I support the addition of USB Controllers because I happen to own a large number of them, and I would find it exhilarating to be able to play my games that I have made with a controller, or to make new games with the aforementioned extension.

Woahh what did I come back to…
Anyways, I also have a few controllers I own! Im still waiting for this to get added so I can use them on scratch! In the meantime, Are product review projects allowed on scratch? Because I would like to rank/rate all my controllers and suggest the best ones to buy if you're on a budget. Is that even something scratchers would be interested in?

How-To-Do-Everything

USBGamepad wrote:
(#2853)
How-To-Do-Everything wrote:
(#2848)
I support the addition of USB Controllers because I happen to own a large number of them, and I would find it exhilarating to be able to play my games that I have made with a controller, or to make new games with the aforementioned extension.
Woahh what did I come back to…
Anyways, I also have a few controllers I own! Im still waiting for this to get added so I can use them on scratch! In the meantime, Are product review projects allowed on scratch? Because I would like to rank/rate all my controllers and suggest the best ones to buy if you're on a budget. Is that even something scratchers would be interested in?

Not sure if it's allowed, but yes I would be interested in it.

PaperMarioFan2022

USBGamepad wrote:
Woahh what did I come back to…
Anyways, I also have a few controllers I own! Im still waiting for this to get added so I can use them on scratch! In the meantime, Are product review projects allowed on scratch? Because I would like to rank/rate all my controllers and suggest the best ones to buy if you're on a budget. Is that even something scratchers would be interested in?

Best not to ask, tbh. It's a language mess here.

Also, it would be nice if I could connect a Switch joy con to Scratch via Bluetooth as it's beneficial and a convenience for those who like to use game controllers wirelessly, although, I doubt that I would ever use one in the future.

Paddle2See

While not rejected (that I know of), this topic is currently closed as constructive contributions appear to have dried up.

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