AZURUS41 wrote:

LA had a good game against Miniment, but the game ended up in a draw : https://lichess.org/uKcbe1vn#0
Im copying this here for everyone who isn't yet on the alternative server (ask on Lichess for joining)

“”“
This is used as a mini-leaderboard to know which opponents play against when test-games. Made out of the newest results from tournaments and test-games. Strength of the engines are the once with the best regularly used parameters.

This is used as a mini-leaderboard to know which opponents play against when test-games. Made out of the newest results from tournaments. Strength of the engines are the once with the best regularly used parameters.

> 1 - GoK NNUE (Championship Mode)
> 2 - GoK Classic (Championship Mode)
> 3 - Delta (depth9 **or** 15sec think time)
> 4 - White Dove (P5, used to 60sec think time but panic time )
> 5 - Element (6+8)
> 6 - Shallow Blue (4+3)
> (7) - Destructor 2 (5+2)
> 8 - Bonsai Chess (Blue Belt)
> (9) - LA Chess Engine (Perf 5)
> 10 - Scurious (Depth 5)
> (11) - Miniment (6+0)
> 12 - Leo's AI (4+0)
> 13 - LowDoor (Depth 5)
> Below - HarleyK / Wolverine Chess

”(rank) - bot“ means the engine hasn't been used in tournaments yet”
“”"

HasiLover_Test wrote:

AZURUS41 wrote:

LA had a good game against Miniment, but the game ended up in a draw : https://lichess.org/uKcbe1vn#0
Im copying this here for everyone who isn't yet on the alternative server (ask on Lichess for joining)

“”“
This is used as a mini-leaderboard to know which opponents play against when test-games. Made out of the newest results from tournaments and test-games. Strength of the engines are the once with the best regularly used parameters.

This is used as a mini-leaderboard to know which opponents play against when test-games. Made out of the newest results from tournaments. Strength of the engines are the once with the best regularly used parameters.

> 1 - GoK NNUE (Championship Mode)
> 2 - GoK Classic (Championship Mode)
> 3 - Delta (depth9 **or** 15sec think time)
> 4 - White Dove (P5, used to 60sec think time but panic time )
> 5 - Element (6+8)
> 6 - Shallow Blue (4+3)
> (7) - Destructor 2 (5+2)
> 8 - Bonsai Chess (Blue Belt)
> (9) - LA Chess Engine (Perf 5)
> 10 - Scurious (Depth 5)
> (11) - Miniment (6+0)
> 12 - Leo's AI (4+0)
> 13 - LowDoor (Depth 5)
> Below - HarleyK / Wolverine Chess

”(rank) - bot“ means the engine hasn't been used in tournaments yet”
“”"

Are you sure about Destructor 2? It's nearly always broken Lol

HasiLover_Test wrote:

AZURUS41 wrote:

LA had a good game against Miniment, but the game ended up in a draw : https://lichess.org/uKcbe1vn#0
Im copying this here for everyone who isn't yet on the alternative server (ask on Lichess for joining)

“”“
This is used as a mini-leaderboard to know which opponents play against when test-games. Made out of the newest results from tournaments and test-games. Strength of the engines are the once with the best regularly used parameters.

This is used as a mini-leaderboard to know which opponents play against when test-games. Made out of the newest results from tournaments. Strength of the engines are the once with the best regularly used parameters.

> 1 - GoK NNUE (Championship Mode)
> 2 - GoK Classic (Championship Mode)
> 3 - Delta (depth9 **or** 15sec think time)
> 4 - White Dove (P5, used to 60sec think time but panic time )
> 5 - Element (6+8)
> 6 - Shallow Blue (4+3)
> (7) - Destructor 2 (5+2)
> 8 - Bonsai Chess (Blue Belt)
> (9) - LA Chess Engine (Perf 5)
> 10 - Scurious (Depth 5)
> (11) - Miniment (6+0)
> 12 - Leo's AI (4+0)
> 13 - LowDoor (Depth 5)
> Below - HarleyK / Wolverine Chess

”(rank) - bot“ means the engine hasn't been used in tournaments yet”
“”"

Are you sure about Destructor 2? It's nearly always broken Lol

birdracerthree wrote:

HasiLover_Test wrote:

AZURUS41 wrote:

LA had a good game against Miniment, but the game ended up in a draw : https://lichess.org/uKcbe1vn#0
Im copying this here for everyone who isn't yet on the alternative server (ask on Lichess for joining)

“”“
This is used as a mini-leaderboard to know which opponents play against when test-games. Made out of the newest results from tournaments and test-games. Strength of the engines are the once with the best regularly used parameters.

This is used as a mini-leaderboard to know which opponents play against when test-games. Made out of the newest results from tournaments. Strength of the engines are the once with the best regularly used parameters.

> 1 - GoK NNUE (Championship Mode)
> 2 - GoK Classic (Championship Mode)
> 3 - Delta (depth9 **or** 15sec think time)
> 4 - White Dove (P5, used to 60sec think time but panic time )
> 5 - Element (6+8)
> 6 - Shallow Blue (4+3)
> (7) - Destructor 2 (5+2)
> 8 - Bonsai Chess (Blue Belt)
> (9) - LA Chess Engine (Perf 5)
> 10 - Scurious (Depth 5)
> (11) - Miniment (6+0)
> 12 - Leo's AI (4+0)
> 13 - LowDoor (Depth 5)
> Below - HarleyK / Wolverine Chess

”(rank) - bot“ means the engine hasn't been used in tournaments yet”
“”"

Are you sure about Destructor 2? It's nearly always broken Lol

Scurious being 10th feels…wrong. It feels like it should be higher.
Ok, to be fair, Destructor 2 at its peak was this strong, but I don’t know where it is right now.

ababoin07 wrote:

birdracerthree wrote:

HasiLover_Test wrote:

AZURUS41 wrote:

LA had a good game against Miniment, but the game ended up in a draw : https://lichess.org/uKcbe1vn#0
Im copying this here for everyone who isn't yet on the alternative server (ask on Lichess for joining)

“”“
This is used as a mini-leaderboard to know which opponents play against when test-games. Made out of the newest results from tournaments and test-games. Strength of the engines are the once with the best regularly used parameters.

This is used as a mini-leaderboard to know which opponents play against when test-games. Made out of the newest results from tournaments. Strength of the engines are the once with the best regularly used parameters.

> 1 - GoK NNUE (Championship Mode)
> 2 - GoK Classic (Championship Mode)
> 3 - Delta (depth9 **or** 15sec think time)
> 4 - White Dove (P5, used to 60sec think time but panic time )
> 5 - Element (6+8)
> 6 - Shallow Blue (4+3)
> (7) - Destructor 2 (5+2)
> 8 - Bonsai Chess (Blue Belt)
> (9) - LA Chess Engine (Perf 5)
> 10 - Scurious (Depth 5)
> (11) - Miniment (6+0)
> 12 - Leo's AI (4+0)
> 13 - LowDoor (Depth 5)
> Below - HarleyK / Wolverine Chess

”(rank) - bot“ means the engine hasn't been used in tournaments yet”
“”"

Are you sure about Destructor 2? It's nearly always broken Lol

Scurious being 10th feels…wrong. It feels like it should be higher.
Ok, to be fair, Destructor 2 at its peak was this strong, but I don’t know where it is right now.

Idk, the new version is stronger than all versions of Destructor, the average accuracy is 94-95% with 1 min think time

AZURUS41 wrote:

HasiLover_Test wrote:

AZURUS41 wrote:

LA had a good game against Miniment, but the game ended up in a draw : https://lichess.org/uKcbe1vn#0
Im copying this here for everyone who isn't yet on the alternative server (ask on Lichess for joining)

“”“
This is used as a mini-leaderboard to know which opponents play against when test-games. Made out of the newest results from tournaments and test-games. Strength of the engines are the once with the best regularly used parameters.

This is used as a mini-leaderboard to know which opponents play against when test-games. Made out of the newest results from tournaments. Strength of the engines are the once with the best regularly used parameters.

> 1 - GoK NNUE (Championship Mode)
> 2 - GoK Classic (Championship Mode)
> 3 - Delta (depth9 **or** 15sec think time)
> 4 - White Dove (P5, used to 60sec think time but panic time )
> 5 - Element (6+8)
> 6 - Shallow Blue (4+3)
> (7) - Destructor 2 (5+2)
> 8 - Bonsai Chess (Blue Belt)
> (9) - LA Chess Engine (Perf 5)
> 10 - Scurious (Depth 5)
> (11) - Miniment (6+0)
> 12 - Leo's AI (4+0)
> 13 - LowDoor (Depth 5)
> Below - HarleyK / Wolverine Chess

”(rank) - bot“ means the engine hasn't been used in tournaments yet”
“”"

Are you sure about Destructor 2? It's nearly always broken Lol

I'm talking about a version that only Ababoin has yet, and who seems to be quite strong

ScratchChessChampion wrote:

AZURUS41 wrote:

HasiLover_Test wrote:

AZURUS41 wrote:

LA had a good game against Miniment, but the game ended up in a draw : https://lichess.org/uKcbe1vn#0
Im copying this here for everyone who isn't yet on the alternative server (ask on Lichess for joining)

“”“
This is used as a mini-leaderboard to know which opponents play against when test-games. Made out of the newest results from tournaments and test-games. Strength of the engines are the once with the best regularly used parameters.

This is used as a mini-leaderboard to know which opponents play against when test-games. Made out of the newest results from tournaments. Strength of the engines are the once with the best regularly used parameters.

> 1 - GoK NNUE (Championship Mode)
> 2 - GoK Classic (Championship Mode)
> 3 - Delta (depth9 **or** 15sec think time)
> 4 - White Dove (P5, used to 60sec think time but panic time )
> 5 - Element (6+8)
> 6 - Shallow Blue (4+3)
> (7) - Destructor 2 (5+2)
> 8 - Bonsai Chess (Blue Belt)
> (9) - LA Chess Engine (Perf 5)
> 10 - Scurious (Depth 5)
> (11) - Miniment (6+0)
> 12 - Leo's AI (4+0)
> 13 - LowDoor (Depth 5)
> Below - HarleyK / Wolverine Chess

”(rank) - bot“ means the engine hasn't been used in tournaments yet”
“”"

Are you sure about Destructor 2? It's nearly always broken Lol

I'm talking about a version that only Ababoin has yet, and who seems to be quite strong

Scurious' strength far surpasses Bonsai, winning nearly all its games. Although the SCF rating was previously used, it hasn’t been updated for a month, so it’s no longer accurate. I'm planning to switch to Lichess ratings, as they're more reliable. The highest rated bot on chess.com is rated 3200, yet it still struggles against Stockfish Level 8. In the future, engines like GoK NNUE could potentially surpass these ratings. With top Lichess bots, like those rated around 3000, running Stockfish 16, it makes more sense to align with a more engine-relevant system like Lichess.

birdracerthree wrote:

HasiLover_Test wrote:

AZURUS41 wrote:

LA had a good game against Miniment, but the game ended up in a draw : https://lichess.org/uKcbe1vn#0
Im copying this here for everyone who isn't yet on the alternative server (ask on Lichess for joining)

“”“
This is used as a mini-leaderboard to know which opponents play against when test-games. Made out of the newest results from tournaments and test-games. Strength of the engines are the once with the best regularly used parameters.

This is used as a mini-leaderboard to know which opponents play against when test-games. Made out of the newest results from tournaments. Strength of the engines are the once with the best regularly used parameters.

> 1 - GoK NNUE (Championship Mode)
> 2 - GoK Classic (Championship Mode)
> 3 - Delta (depth9 **or** 15sec think time)
> 4 - White Dove (P5, used to 60sec think time but panic time )
> 5 - Element (6+8)
> 6 - Shallow Blue (4+3)
> (7) - Destructor 2 (5+2)
> 8 - Bonsai Chess (Blue Belt)
> (9) - LA Chess Engine (Perf 5)
> 10 - Scurious (Depth 5)
> (11) - Miniment (6+0)
> 12 - Leo's AI (4+0)
> 13 - LowDoor (Depth 5)
> Below - HarleyK / Wolverine Chess

”(rank) - bot“ means the engine hasn't been used in tournaments yet”
“”"

Are you sure about Destructor 2? It's nearly always broken Lol

Scurious being 10th feels…wrong. It feels like it should be higher.
Ok, to be fair, Destructor 2 at its peak was this strong, but I don’t know where it is right now.

chessconscarth wrote:

how about tablebases.or are they just to large?

échecsconscarth wrote:

ScratchChessChampion wrote:

AZURUS41 wrote:

HasiLover_Test wrote:

AZURUS41 wrote:

LA had a good game against Miniment, but the game ended up in a draw : https://lichess.org/uKcbe1vn#0
Im copying this here for everyone who isn't yet on the alternative server (ask on Lichess for joining)

“”“
This is used as a mini-leaderboard to know which opponents play against when test-games. Made out of the newest results from tournaments and test-games. Strength of the engines are the once with the best regularly used parameters.

This is used as a mini-leaderboard to know which opponents play against when test-games. Made out of the newest results from tournaments. Strength of the engines are the once with the best regularly used parameters.

> 1 - GoK NNUE (Championship Mode)
> 2 - GoK Classic (Championship Mode)
> 3 - Delta (depth9 **or** 15sec think time)
> 4 - White Dove (P5, used to 60sec think time but panic time )
> 5 - Element (6+8)
> 6 - Shallow Blue (4+3)
> (7) - Destructor 2 (5+2)
> 8 - Bonsai Chess (Blue Belt)
> (9) - LA Chess Engine (Perf 5)
> 10 - Scurious (Depth 5)
> (11) - Miniment (6+0)
> 12 - Leo's AI (4+0)
> 13 - LowDoor (Depth 5)
> Below - HarleyK / Wolverine Chess

”(rank) - bot“ means the engine hasn't been used in tournaments yet”
“”"

Are you sure about Destructor 2? It's nearly always broken Lol

I'm talking about a version that only Ababoin has yet, and who seems to be quite strong

Scurious' strength far surpasses Bonsai, winning nearly all its games. Although the SCF rating was previously used, it hasn’t been updated for a month, so it’s no longer accurate. I'm planning to switch to Lichess ratings, as they're more reliable. The highest rated bot on chess.com is rated 3200, yet it still struggles against Stockfish Level 8. In the future, engines like GoK NNUE could potentially surpass these ratings. With top Lichess bots, like those rated around 3000, running Stockfish 16, it makes more sense to align with a more engine-relevant system like Lichess.

Talking about lichess GoK NNUE has UCI so, cant you put it on lichess BOT account?
after turning it into java using leopard.

ScratchChessChampion wrote:

How do you all implement endgame detection? I’m looking to add an endgame tablebase to MiniMate, bcause it’s struggling to convert winning endgames

chessconscarth wrote:

how about tablebases or are they just to large?

birdracerthree wrote:

ScratchChessChampion wrote:

How do you all implement endgame detection? I’m looking to add an endgame tablebase to MiniMate, bcause it’s struggling to convert winning endgames

Element takes the material value of the position and it checks if it is less than 27 (excluding pawns). Element also has an except that allows QRRvQRR to be an endgame (that is up to you to add).
This is not really relevant for tablebases as you will only be able to add 4 or 5 man tablebases into a Scratch project.

when green flag clicked
set [pawns] to [8]
forever
if <[pawns] < [4]> then
broadcast [IS endgame]
end

end

chessconscarth wrote:

birdracerthree wrote:

ScratchChessChampion wrote:

How do you all implement endgame detection? I’m looking to add an endgame tablebase to MiniMate, bcause it’s struggling to convert winning endgames

Element takes the material value of the position and it checks if it is less than 27 (excluding pawns). Element also has an except that allows QRRvQRR to be an endgame (that is up to you to add).
This is not really relevant for tablebases as you will only be able to add 4 or 5 man tablebases into a Scratch project.

by adding a variable to cheak pawns and pieces.

when green flag clicked
set [pawns] to [8]
forever
if <[pawns] < [4]> then
broadcast [IS endgame]
end

end