Put the while block in the block palette

AidyGamer60

Oh my gosh, yes! I had to ask for the link to this! Please add this, Scratch! It already exists in a few projects! So please, add it. Or we'll have to take the While block out of our backpack every time we need it!

while <> {
} :: control

Last edited by AidyGamer60 (Feb. 13, 2021 17:46:52)

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SpinningCube

Support. I fail to understand why Scratch Team chose to use repeat until rather than while, which exists in other programming languages. It could be reworded slightly though.

Here's the unused block:

while <> {

}::control

Here's a reworded version for scratch:

repeat while <> {

}::control

I don't think they need to implement it soon, but it is something that they could consider at some point.

Scratchperson1000000

sorry but this is a super easy workaround

while <...> {...} :: control//is possible with

repeat until <not<...>
...
end

forever if <...> {...} :: control :: cap :: loop//is possible with

forever
if <...> then
...

these blocks were removed because their workarounds were way too easy

Last edited by Scratchperson1000000 (Feb. 14, 2021 20:25:51)

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miniepicness

Scratchperson1000000 wrote:
sorry but this is a super easy workaround
while <...> {...} :: control//is possible with

repeat until <not<...>
...
end

forever if <...> {...} :: control :: cap :: loop//is possible with

forever
if <...> then
...
these blocks were removed because their workarounds were way too easy

did you read the full post?
the block wasn't removed. it's only been removed from the block palette.
The code for it fully works and I even linked an example in the original post.

if you're all for workarounds then we might as well remove the multiplication block because you can make a workaround with the division block.

((var1) * (var2))

can be made by

((var1) / ((1) / (var2)))

Last edited by miniepicness (Feb. 14, 2021 21:12:18)

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EDO2012 wrote:
you could hack it in…

or, you could put it in your backpack

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miniepicness wrote:
Scratchperson1000000 wrote:
sorry but this is a super easy workaround
while <...> {...} :: control//is possible with

repeat until <not<...>
...
end

forever if <...> {...} :: control :: cap :: loop//is possible with

forever
if <...> then
...
these blocks were removed because their workarounds were way too easy
did you read the full post?
the block wasn't removed. it's only been removed from the block palette.
The code for it fully works and I even linked an example in the original post.

if you're all for workarounds then we might as well remove the multiplication block because you can make a workaround with the division block.
((var1) * (var2))
can be made by
((var1) / ((1) / (var2)))

I meant removed from the pallette but you can use the JavaScript Converter thingy

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the2000

Scratchperson1000000 wrote:
EDO2012 wrote:
you could hack it in…
or, you could put it in your backpack

Yeah but the project you got it from either hacked it in or took it from someone who hacked it in

miniepicness

the2000 wrote:
Scratchperson1000000 wrote:
EDO2012 wrote:
you could hack it in…
or, you could put it in your backpack
Yeah but the project you got it from either hacked it in or took it from someone who hacked it in

You shouldn't need to hack in a useful block when it should be in the palette in the first place?

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miniepicness wrote:
the2000 wrote:
Scratchperson1000000 wrote:
EDO2012 wrote:
you could hack it in…
or, you could put it in your backpack
Yeah but the project you got it from either hacked it in or took it from someone who hacked it in
You shouldn't need to hack in a useful block when it should be in the palette in the first place?

I know, I was just saying…

(By the way, I made a somewhat similar post)

dertermenter

Yeah, I think every block that works but isn't in the block pallete should be added to the pallete, not just the ‘while’ block

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Scratchperson1000000

alexphan wrote:
duckboycool wrote:
MathlyCat wrote:
-snip-
1. While loops are in other languages while forever loops are not.
2. Forever If was removed for purpose of its workaround being blatantly easy. I don't see how and why the While block fits in this category, not only would it improve the change from scratch to other languages, it would make projects easier to make and add a new level of complexity.

Your only reasoning is ‘oh workaround and it’s gone so it doesn't deserve to be re-added'
The while block fits into this category for the workaround being extremely easy. Also, it means nothing to add it back in. Two blocks. We don't support the easier following topic for being too easy, this is the same.
So let's remove
go to x: (0) y: (0)
because it has a two-block workaround.
set x to (0)
set y to (0)

and let's remove

(my variable)

because of its one block workaround

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Literally everyone wrote:
repeat until <not <...>>

end

REMOVE REAPEAT UNTIL I FOUND AN EPIC WORKAROUND THAT ALWAYS WORKS

while <not <...>>    { 
...
} :: control

</s> this is why re-adding While wouldn't hurt anyone

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Lets remove:

move () steps

Because:

change x by ()

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twogadugary

Since the block works, I think it should be added to the palette. I'm pretty sure I actually make repeat until not loops far more than repeat until loops and while loops appear in more other languages than repeat until loops, so I'm not sure why the Scratch Team decided to keep it hidden.

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I think you should be able to use this to make a script run while a different script is running

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No support, if it was added, it would be better off replacing the repeat until blocks, but then every project with repeat until would have to have while not instead

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hiPeeps124816 wrote:
No , if it was added, it would be better off replacing the repeat until blocks, but then every project with repeat until would have to have while not instead

It is already added, and no we won't have to replace repeat until.

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“While” loops are more common in standard programming, whereas I don't know of a single programming language (other than scratch) that uses “Repeat until.”
Of course, I only know Java and Python, but still.

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