HappyParakeet wrote:

Snap is also quite annoying if you are used to Scratch stuff, because it has many cheats and doesn't have some Scratch blocks, and on the whole, I find Scratch better.

Blaze349 wrote:

Updated it with the only text editor you need

Blaze349 wrote:

Updated it with the only text editor you need

nathanprocks wrote:

Although I prefer vim over other editors, I really don't think that is helpful for anyone moving on from Scratch. Learning vim also requires learning how to use the command line, shell commands, etc. It also doesn't come preinstalled on Windows, which is what the majority uses.

I think that you should at least write a more detailed guide on learning vim and also list some GUI text editors such as Sublime Text, Atom, and Brackets.

Jonathan50 wrote:

nathanprocks wrote:

Although I prefer vim over other editors, I really don't think that is helpful for anyone moving on from Scratch. Learning vim also requires learning how to use the command line, shell commands, etc. It also doesn't come preinstalled on Windows, which is what the majority uses.

I think that you should at least write a more detailed guide on learning vim and also list some GUI text editors such as Sublime Text, Atom, and Brackets.

Although I don't usually prefer vim, you don't need to know how to use a command line to use vim (you can make a shortcut to start up terminal vim, and there is gvim) and none of the other editors you listed come preinstalled on Windows either.

nathanprocks wrote:

That's true, I forgot about gVim. However, I still think “Use vim” is not helpful.

I also didn't say that the other editors come with Windows. I was just suggesting them as alternatives for people who prefer to use GUI editors.

Jonathan50 wrote:

I also didn't say that the other editors come with Windows. I was just suggesting them as alternatives for people who prefer to use GUI editors.

I know, but what's the point of saying vim doesn't come preinstalled with Windows then?

Jonathan50 wrote:

OK, but I disagree with the statement “you can't really do as much” with Emacs. You can do so much more with Emacs to the point that you can do too much with Emacs. It has built in packages for an email client, news reader, web browser, and I used to use the EMMS media player like iTunes! (I would still, but I'd have to install it again.).

__init__ wrote:

I'm curious why VScode is “one of your least favourite editors” but Atom is third on your list.

ateesdalejr wrote:

nano will rule you all.

Blaze349 wrote:

__init__ wrote:

I'm curious why VScode is “one of your least favourite editors” but Atom is third on your list.

I don't see what all the fuss was about it. It is certainly faster than Atom (isn't everything) but I don't see what makes it so special.

Although I like Jetbrains C/C++ ide, I didn't want to include any IDEs.

__init__ wrote:

Blaze349 wrote:

__init__ wrote:

I'm curious why VScode is “one of your least favourite editors” but Atom is third on your list.

I don't see what all the fuss was about it. It is certainly faster than Atom (isn't everything) but I don't see what makes it so special.

Although I like Jetbrains C/C++ ide, I didn't want to include any IDEs.

VScode has one of the best autocompletes I've used, only behind Visual Studio and JetBrains. It's got Git integration built-in, which is a nice touch - it's not common in many editors. The debugging features are also nice. It's also much, much lighter and faster than Atom.

I use Sublime Text myself, but VScode is a pretty solid editor.

Brackets is also worth mentioning - it has some pretty nice features useful for frontend web development.

Blaze349 wrote:

__init__ wrote:

Blaze349 wrote:

__init__ wrote:

I'm curious why VScode is “one of your least favourite editors” but Atom is third on your list.

I don't see what all the fuss was about it. It is certainly faster than Atom (isn't everything) but I don't see what makes it so special.

Although I like Jetbrains C/C++ ide, I didn't want to include any IDEs.

VScode has one of the best autocompletes I've used, only behind Visual Studio and JetBrains. It's got Git integration built-in, which is a nice touch - it's not common in many editors. The debugging features are also nice. It's also much, much lighter and faster than Atom.

I use Sublime Text myself, but VScode is a pretty solid editor.

Brackets is also worth mentioning - it has some pretty nice features useful for frontend web development.

Vim/Emacs have the best git integration, I think. I think Brackets is pretty good, so is Coda. You can write something about Brackets and I'll quote you in the main post.