The Unofficial NGP Questions Topic (TUNQT)

ScodexPerson

o97doge wrote:
I'm sure NGP is going to be horribly controversial when it releases. It just can't not be with all these social media laws being pushed out, and the fact that every… single… Scratch update has already been controversal after the Studio Update, maybe at least partly excluding the the <online?> block.

Keep in mind that every major update is at the beginning “controversial” because people just aren't used to it yet then.

flyingemail6262

YouTube is good to use

IceGamerUltra

flyingemail6262 wrote:
YouTube is good to use

Can you please not randomly say that?

Scratchybear22

Lets say they are not transitioning the forums, would they set up during the downtime?

Humble_banana

ScodexPerson wrote:
o97doge wrote:
I'm sure NGP is going to be horribly controversial when it releases. It just can't not be with all these social media laws being pushed out, and the fact that every… single… Scratch update has already been controversal after the Studio Update, maybe at least partly excluding the the <online?> block.
Keep in mind that every major update is at the beginning “controversial” because people just aren't used to it yet then.

Indeed. Either that or they realise an update was actually bad and they refine it over time, solving problems that didn't exist before. At least they solve them I guess…
I'm talking about apple's liquid glass UI here…

CuteRobot22

Scratchybear22 wrote:
Lets say they are not transitioning the forums, would they set up during the downtime?

Probably not

WigglyJoey

HighlaneGamingStudio wrote:
o97doge wrote:
I'm sure NGP is going to be horribly controversial when it releases. It just can't not be with all these social media laws being pushed out, and the fact that every… single… Scratch update has already been controversal after the Studio Update, maybe at least partly excluding the the <online?> block.
Well, not every update:
Set thumbnail button
Thumbnail button take 2

Some people didn't enjoy that feature in take 1.

IceGamerUltra

WigglyJoey wrote:
HighlaneGamingStudio wrote:
o97doge wrote:
I'm sure NGP is going to be horribly controversial when it releases. It just can't not be with all these social media laws being pushed out, and the fact that every… single… Scratch update has already been controversal after the Studio Update, maybe at least partly excluding the the <online?> block.
Well, not every update:
Set thumbnail button
Thumbnail button take 2
Some people didn't enjoy that feature in take 1.

I didn't enjoy it in take 2.
EDIT: HOW DO I STOP THIS DOT ON MY POST-

Last edited by IceGamerUltra (Oct. 16, 2026 16:40:04)

WigglyJoey

IceGamerUltra wrote:
WigglyJoey wrote:
HighlaneGamingStudio wrote:
o97doge wrote:
I'm sure NGP is going to be horribly controversial when it releases. It just can't not be with all these social media laws being pushed out, and the fact that every… single… Scratch update has already been controversal after the Studio Update, maybe at least partly excluding the the <online?> block.
Well, not every update:
Set thumbnail button
Thumbnail button take 2
Some people didn't enjoy that feature in take 1.
I didn't enjoy it in take 2.
EDIT: HOW DO I STOP THIS DOT ON MY POST-

Extends my point here, the set thumbnail feature should be the netural feature.

o97doge

HighlaneGamingStudio wrote:
o97doge wrote:
I'm sure NGP is going to be horribly controversial when it releases. It just can't not be with all these social media laws being pushed out, and the fact that every… single… Scratch update has already been controversal after the Studio Update, maybe at least partly excluding the the <online?> block.
Well, not every update:
Set thumbnail button
Thumbnail button take 2
Giving everyone membership features
The online boolean (as you said)
Face Sensing extension (as far as I know, most controversy surrounding this was based on misunderstandings)
Switching the Powered by DjangoBB link at the bottom of forum pages from the deleted DjangoBB website to the Scratch Foundation Github repo (though that barely counts as an update)
Although you do have a point, considering how many updates were controvercial:
Switching the site's theme from blue to purple
Scratch Membership program […]
At this point it feels like there's a 50/50 chance any given upcoming Scratch update will be received positively, which shouldn't be the case.

Many of the newer updates took away things or took away from the experience of Scratch in the eyes of many Scratchers. Though the high contrast update was mainly just a matter of not being used to it, but there were some people who it apparently made Scratch harder to use for them.

Most of the positive updates didn't take something away that mattered to most Scratchers, or at least replaced it with something that could be considered better.

But yeah, I probably shouldn't have said every single update. I just couldn't think of more examples off the top of my head.

ScodexPerson wrote:
o97doge wrote:
I'm sure NGP is going to be horribly controversial when it releases. It just can't not be with all these social media laws being pushed out, and the fact that every… single… Scratch update has already been controversal after the Studio Update, maybe at least partly excluding the the <online?> block.
Keep in mind that every major update is at the beginning “controversial” because people just aren't used to it yet then.

I know. I'm just saying that pattern is likely to continue with the NGP.

CaptFrIEdshrimp

ScodexPerson wrote:
o97doge wrote:
I'm sure NGP is going to be horribly controversial when it releases. It just can't not be with all these social media laws being pushed out, and the fact that every… single… Scratch update has already been controversal after the Studio Update, maybe at least partly excluding the the <online?> block.
Keep in mind that every major update is at the beginning “controversial” because people just aren't used to it yet then.

Yeah, kinda given that the fact there are lots of “moderation sucks” videos that try to start a cult by forcing others to agree…
Might be a bad statement.

Last edited by CaptFrIEdshrimp (Oct. 16, 2026 20:50:49)

HighlaneGamingStudio

IceGamerUltra wrote:
WigglyJoey wrote:
HighlaneGamingStudio wrote:
Well, not every update:
Set thumbnail button
Thumbnail button take 2
Some people didn't enjoy that feature in take 1.
I didn't enjoy it in take 2.

Well, that's valid point- both implementations had flaws. The first was way oversized and required you to leave the editor to access it, while the second makes the button blend in a little too well. In both cases, users who didn't set a thumbnail would end up with the default one rather than a screenshot of their last save. Overall, it was positively received, though.

Humble_banana

HighlaneGamingStudio wrote:
IceGamerUltra wrote:
WigglyJoey wrote:
HighlaneGamingStudio wrote:
Well, not every update:
Set thumbnail button
Thumbnail button take 2
Some people didn't enjoy that feature in take 1.
I didn't enjoy it in take 2.
Well, that's valid point- both implementations had flaws. The first was way oversized and required you to leave the editor to access it, while the second makes the button blend in a little too well. In both cases, users who didn't set a thumbnail would end up with the default one rather than a screenshot of their last save. Overall, it was positively received, though.

I kinda miss fiddling with the ghost effect to get it to show when the project isn't running.
(I've actually forgotten how to do it now – its been a while!)

IceGamerUltra

Humble_banana wrote:
HighlaneGamingStudio wrote:
IceGamerUltra wrote:
WigglyJoey wrote:
HighlaneGamingStudio wrote:
Well, not every update:
Set thumbnail button
Thumbnail button take 2
Some people didn't enjoy that feature in take 1.
I didn't enjoy it in take 2.
Well, that's valid point- both implementations had flaws. The first was way oversized and required you to leave the editor to access it, while the second makes the button blend in a little too well. In both cases, users who didn't set a thumbnail would end up with the default one rather than a screenshot of their last save. Overall, it was positively received, though.
I kinda miss fiddling with the ghost effect to get it to show when the project isn't running.
(I've actually forgotten how to do it now – its been a while!)

Don't you just say forever set ghost effect to 100 and go to front layer?

Humble_banana

IceGamerUltra wrote:
Humble_banana wrote:
I kinda miss fiddling with the ghost effect to get it to show when the project isn't running.
(I've actually forgotten how to do it now – its been a while!)
Don't you just say forever set ghost effect to 100 and go to front layer?

Probably something like that.

Last edited by Humble_banana (Oct. 17, 2026 14:19:36)

WigglyJoey

Humble_banana wrote:
IceGamerUltra wrote:
Humble_banana wrote:
I kinda miss fiddling with the ghost effect to get it to show when the project isn't running.
(I've actually forgotten how to do it now – its been a while!)
Don't you just say forever set ghost effect to 100 and go to front layer?
Probably something like that.

You can still do that if you want your thumbnail to appear when you stop the project

DeathReviews

ScodexPerson wrote:
flyingemail6262 wrote:
Blank
Why did you post this?

Another style of “bump”

Humble_banana

DeathReviews wrote:
Another style of “bump”

You don't need to bump a sticky though!

WigglyJoey wrote:
Humble_banana wrote:
IceGamerUltra wrote:
Humble_banana wrote:
I kinda miss fiddling with the ghost effect to get it to show when the project isn't running.
(I've actually forgotten how to do it now – its been a while!)
Don't you just say forever set ghost effect to 100 and go to front layer?
Probably something like that.
You can still do that if you want your thumbnail to appear when you stop the project

Actually, yeah, that is a good reason as to why you would do it the workaround way.
After all, the thumbnail function doesn't show it when the stop button is pressed.

Last edited by Humble_banana (Oct. 17, 2026 19:30:30)

myscript423

IceGamerUltra wrote:
Humble_banana wrote:
I kinda miss fiddling with the ghost effect to get it to show when the project isn't running.
(I've actually forgotten how to do it now – its been a while!)
Don't you just say forever set ghost effect to 100 and go to front layer?

Visualized Code wrote:

when green flag clicked
forever
set [ghost v] effect to (100)
go to [front v] layer
end

WPONTA

Uh, looks like it is getting off topic.

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