Before someone new to the topic starts talking please read these posts:

https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/post/9454833/ (The best one I've seen so far)
https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/post/9450675/ (Codubee)
https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/post/9451040/

My old technology teacher has emailed me saying
"The decision to block scratch was made for a couple of reasons and one of them is that Scratch will not promise to avoid sharing student information. "

Are these terms going to change in NGP? The scratch community has found out scratch is moving beyond student accounts, replacing them with normal accounts connected to Google classroom (which makes me assume student information will be forced to be shared with educators).

(I understood things wrong, she meant Scratch cannot guarantee student info will be kept away from outside platforms, but is this logic still going to change in NGP)?

I really need a reply from someone related to ST, this could change everything about the main website getting blocked at my school.

It's the school's choice and you can't try to change them just for your own benefit, it's a dangerous website for school students anyways

manuelgenarotourner wrote:

It's the school's choice and you can't try to change them just for your own benefit, it's a dangerous website for school students anyways

And how is it dangerous? Also, these systems have been shown to be a bad idea (esp. when they work outside of school)

manuelgenarotourner wrote:

It's the school's choice and you can't try to change them just for your own benefit, it's a dangerous website for school students anyways

Not dangerous. In fact, it is shown to be beneficial to students.

ChristianScratcher1 wrote:

manuelgenarotourner wrote:

It's the school's choice and you can't try to change them just for your own benefit, it's a dangerous website for school students anyways

Not dangerous. In fact, it is shown to be beneficial to students.

no

manuelgenarotourner wrote:

ChristianScratcher1 wrote:

manuelgenarotourner wrote:

It's the school's choice and you can't try to change them just for your own benefit, it's a dangerous website for school students anyways

Not dangerous. In fact, it is shown to be beneficial to students.

no

It isn't. You are probably a school student yourself, and so am I.

CuteRobot22 wrote:

manuelgenarotourner wrote:

ChristianScratcher1 wrote:

manuelgenarotourner wrote:

It's the school's choice and you can't try to change them just for your own benefit, it's a dangerous website for school students anyways

Not dangerous. In fact, it is

no

It isn't. You are probably a school student yourself, and so am I.

No I'm not

Okay can someone try to answer the question?

What are the other reasons though?

medians wrote:

What are the other reasons though?

Probably because there is also UGC here. I mean, that is why back in 6th it was briefly blocked for me.
EDIT: But Scratch can be used in education, I mean even NGP is going to allow Google accounts so in my opinion sharing information is really just a fault of the students themselves, not of the platform. And, Scratch Team doesn't encourage sharing of information.

medians wrote:

What are the other reasons though?

Idk she didn't tell me.

medians wrote:

manuelgenarotourner wrote:

It's the school's choice and you can't try to change them just for your own benefit, it's a dangerous website for school students anyways

And how is it dangerous? Also, these systems have been shown to be a bad idea (esp. when they work outside of school)

Given the amount of spam and drama on this platform, and the fact that this site has been a major target for bad actors, the risks would probably outweigh the benefits of using Scratch. Almost all students don't even use Scratch to code anyway; they use it to play games. There's no point in using the Scratch website itself when the offline editor and assignment organization tools like Canvas and Schoology exist.

taigasol1 wrote:

medians wrote:

manuelgenarotourner wrote:

It's the school's choice and you can't try to change them just for your own benefit, it's a dangerous website for school students anyways

And how is it dangerous? Also, these systems have been shown to be a bad idea (esp. when they work outside of school)

Given the amount of spam and drama on this platform, and the fact that this site has been a major target for bad actors, the risks would probably outweigh the benefits of using Scratch. Almost all students don't even use Scratch to code anyway; they use it to play games. There's no point in using the Scratch website itself when the offline editor and assignment organization tools like Canvas and Schoology exist.

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manuelgenarotourner wrote:

CuteRobot22 wrote:

manuelgenarotourner wrote:

ChristianScratcher1 wrote:

manuelgenarotourner wrote:

It's the school's choice and you can't try to change them just for your own benefit, it's a dangerous website for school students anyways

Not dangerous. In fact, it is

no

It isn't. You are probably a school student yourself, and so am I.

No I'm not

Yep, I Totally Believe You

taigasol1 wrote:

medians wrote:

manuelgenarotourner wrote:

It's the school's choice and you can't try to change them just for your own benefit, it's a dangerous website for school students anyways

And how is it dangerous? Also, these systems have been shown to be a bad idea (esp. when they work outside of school)

Given the amount of spam and drama on this platform, and the fact that this site has been a major target for bad actors, the risks would probably outweigh the benefits of using Scratch. Almost all students don't even use Scratch to code anyway; they use it to play games. There's no point in using the Scratch website itself when the offline editor and assignment organization tools like Canvas and Schoology exist.

In my opinion, there's a better solution though
Also, many schools block the offline editor or google play store (and Canvas and Schoology aren't perfect)
Edit: I think I also remember being blocked from using canvas or whatever they used once LOL

Magudragon wrote:

medians wrote:

What are the other reasons though?

Idk she didn't tell me.

Could you ask her so that Scratch knows how to help
Like, scratch could just fix the issues that are causing it to be blocked in the first place

medians wrote:

Also, many schools block the offline editor or google play store (and Canvas and Schoology aren't perfect)
Edit: I think I also remember being blocked from using canvas or whatever they used once LOL

School IT could just unblock it. And I would say that the Scratch classroom system would probably be even less perfect than the other things.

taigasol1 wrote:

medians wrote:

Also, many schools block the offline editor or google play store (and Canvas and Schoology aren't perfect)
Edit: I think I also remember being blocked from using canvas or whatever they used once LOL

School IT could just unblock it. And I would say that the Scratch classroom system would probably be even less perfect than the other things.

I mean I guess that depends on whether they're willing to listen (though that's why I said “In my opinion, there's a better solution though” like maybe the school could ask scratch for a compromise and maybe they could just fix the issues with student accounts in the first place or any other solution)
That's why I said this:

Could you ask her so that Scratch knows how to help
Like, scratch could just fix the issues that are causing it to be blocked in the first place

if they're not willing to get rid of blocks in general
the school also hasn't elaborated on “other reasons” so we don't know if ugc might be a reason yet or if those reasons are why

taigasol1 wrote:

medians wrote:

manuelgenarotourner wrote:

It's the school's choice and you can't try to change them just for your own benefit, it's a dangerous website for school students anyways

And how is it dangerous? Also, these systems have been shown to be a bad idea (esp. when they work outside of school)

Given the amount of spam and drama on this platform, and the fact that this site has been a major target for bad actors, the risks would probably outweigh the benefits of using Scratch. Almost all students don't even use Scratch to code anyway; they use it to play games. There's no point in using the Scratch website itself when the offline editor and assignment organization tools like Canvas and Schoology exist.

What if Scratch fixed those issues though (also schools can block specific pages from what I've heard)

medians wrote:

I mean I guess that depends on whether they're willing to listen bc they might not (though that's why I said “In my opinion, there's a better solution though” like maybe the school could ask scratch for a compromise and maybe they could just fix the issues with student accounts in the first place or any other solution)
That's why I said this:

Could you ask her so that Scratch knows how to help
Like, scratch could just fix the issues that are causing it to be blocked in the first place

I HIGHLY doubt that any district would bother contacting Scratch to fix their issues, when there's a relatively easy way they could implement Scratch into the curriculum themselves, while avoiding all the issues with the platform.