CharPikMar wrote:

my_c00l_games wrote:

So, I have been following this topic for a while now., and I need to make this clear to everyone (correct me if I am wrong) Scratch.org (aka the NGP) is scratch 3.5, NOT scratch 4.0!

Scratch NGP is not 3.5. It is an update to the website.

maybe scratch team but really its just my memory wrote:

ngp = bridge between 3.0 and 4.0 + adds ai slop

UserBlockedYou wrote:

maybe scratch team but really its just my memory wrote:

ngp = bridge between 3.0 and 4.0 + adds ai slop

Kype720184 wrote:

What AI Chatbot? I seen i nowhere!

Kype720184 wrote:

Well, are we having Scratch AI?

Kype720184 wrote:

Maybe at least finetune a model with Unsloth and maybe finetune Olmo for an Open Source model or if thy only need Open Weights, Gemma.

when green flag clicked
test the NGP [early v] during [today v]

Kype720184 wrote:

What AI Chatbot? I seen i nowhere!

Please someone tell me, I have not been here for a while and I hope it is not as hype driven as Kodo (I made a Medium article about a 14 year old, Kodo and the PR that falls short of reality, but this is irrelevant so I will stop it here, sorry).

Well, are we having Scratch AI?

Maybe at least finetune a model with Unsloth and maybe finetune Olmo for an Open Source model or if thy only need Open Weights, Gemma.

Noahsantos2024 wrote:

Kype720184 wrote:

What AI Chatbot? I seen i nowhere!

Please someone tell me, I have not been here for a while and I hope it is not as hype driven as Kodo (I made a Medium article about a 14 year old, Kodo and the PR that falls short of reality, but this is irrelevant so I will stop it here, sorry).

Well, are we having Scratch AI?

Maybe at least finetune a model with Unsloth and maybe finetune Olmo for an Open Source model or if thy only need Open Weights, Gemma.

How Could You Done That?!

gem1001 wrote:

Kype720184 wrote:

What AI Chatbot? I seen i nowhere!

It got cancelled

Kype720184 wrote:

Well, are we having Scratch AI?

Probably

Kype720184 wrote:

Maybe at least finetune a model with Unsloth and maybe finetune Olmo for an Open Source model or if thy only need Open Weights, Gemma.

We don't know the exact specifications, other than that they made a vibecoded prototype for an AI song generator that can use Gemini Nano, Gemma 4, or Magenta.js

Kype720184 wrote:

But why Gemini Nano when Gemma 4 and Qwen 3.5 are already so good?

when green flag clicked
test NGP early::control

gem1001 wrote:

Kype720184 wrote:

But why Gemini Nano when Gemma 4 and Qwen 3.5 are already so good?

It's built into Chrome
The Gemini Nano option doesn't appear in other browsers

CharPikMar wrote:

Keep this discussion to the NGP please. AI will not be added in the NGP, as stated by the Scratch Team.

DeathReviews wrote:

CharPikMar wrote:

Keep this discussion to the NGP please. AI will not be added in the NGP, as stated by the Scratch Team.

Beacuase it’s in 4.0? It isn’t slop if it’s just coding, that’s only with like, images, audio and videos.

Scratch_Cat_Coder8 wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:

CharPikMar wrote:

Keep this discussion to the NGP please. AI will not be added in the NGP, as stated by the Scratch Team.

Beacuase it’s in 4.0? It isn’t slop if it’s just coding, that’s only with like, images, audio and videos.

Basically any ai that generates any form of content is generative ai (the slop kind of ai)
And yes, ai can generate code slop. Look at vibe coding and the issues with that, although that’s something to discuss somewhere else as we are supposed to be talking about the NGP here.

CatPlusHouse wrote:

EVERYONE, STOP TALKING ABOUT AI AND THE NGP
The NGP will NOT add ai as it is strictly just a update to the website, jot the scratch editor, and 4.0 isn't even going to come out soon and add ai

DeathReviews wrote:

CatPlusHouse wrote:

EVERYONE, STOP TALKING ABOUT AI AND THE NGP
The NGP will NOT add ai as it is strictly just a update to the website, jot the scratch editor, and 4.0 isn't even going to come out soon and add ai

Correct.
Once again, NGP is purely an update to the UI. No new features, sorry.