NGP Questions Thread — What We Know So Far (READ BEFORE POSTING ABOUT NGP)

OliverOCP01

Hi

dinoparty0

OliverOCP01 wrote:
Hi

Please refrain from making off-topic discussions here.

OliverOCP01

How do Scratch adds the NPG from 4.0
Scratch Cat: Excited to 4.0?
Me: YEA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAÀAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mastergamerx-details

gem1001 wrote:
samuelthedude wrote:
I’m just wondering, what will it look like? Will there be a beta for us to test?
schools.scratch.org used NGP
I did some stuff to see the hidden page elements

Notice how the background is light purple, instead of light blue (like a lot of other pages)…
(this is a good thing)

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gem1001

MyPrimerScratcher wrote:
No way! I hope this releases at the end of the year or in 2027!
when green flag clicked
play sound [Meow]
say [Scratch Is Gonna Release a new big update! (The most recent one was in 2019)] for (2) secs

This isn't 4.0
NGP will release this summer

F-35a-

gem1001 wrote:
F-35a- wrote:
I'd like to know how to use the `online?` code (the search block).
It detects if you have an internet connection

What kind of script should I use to detect it?

IheartGudetuma

MyPrimerScratcher wrote:
gem1001 wrote:
samuelthedude wrote:
I’m just wondering, what will it look like? Will there be a beta for us to test?
schools.scratch.org used NGP
I did some stuff to see the hidden page elements

No way! I hope this releases at the end of the year or in 2027!
when green flag clicked
play sound [Meow]
say [Scratch Is Gonna Release a new big update! (The most recent one was in 2019)] for (2) secs

Things like those are most likely fake. I think this is fake because the scratcher who made it didn’t tell us where he found them it just says “ I did some stuff to see the hidden page elements”. The only way he or she could’ve found these are if they work for scratch team which they don’t. Just giving a heads up so when y’all see things like this you can know what it is.

mastergamerx-details

IheartGudetuma wrote:
MyPrimerScratcher wrote:
gem1001 wrote:
samuelthedude wrote:
I’m just wondering, what will it look like? Will there be a beta for us to test?
schools.scratch.org used NGP
I did some stuff to see the hidden page elements

No way! I hope this releases at the end of the year or in 2027!
when green flag clicked
play sound [Meow]
say [Scratch Is Gonna Release a new big update! (The most recent one was in 2019)] for (2) secs
Things like those are most likely fake. I think this is fake because the scratcher who made it didn’t tell us where he found them it just says “ I did some stuff to see the hidden page elements”. The only way he or she could’ve found these are if they work for scratch team which they don’t. Just giving a heads up so when y’all see things like this you can know what it is.

Actually, if you go into the Wayback Machine, and type “schools.scratch.org”, you will see these pages. It takes a while to load, though. They did tell us where they found it, they said they found it at schools.scratch.org, which is an official Scratch subdomain.

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HighlaneGamingStudio

mastergamerx-details wrote:
IheartGudetuma wrote:
MyPrimerScratcher wrote:
gem1001 wrote:
samuelthedude wrote:
I’m just wondering, what will it look like? Will there be a beta for us to test?
schools.scratch.org used NGP
I did some stuff to see the hidden page elements
[The fact that nobody snipped until here is sad]
No way! I hope this releases at the end of the year or in 2027!
when green flag clicked
play sound [Meow]
say [Scratch Is Gonna Release a new big update! (The most recent one was in 2019)] for (2) secs
Things like those are most likely fake. I think this is fake because the scratcher who made it didn’t tell us where he found them it just says “ I did some stuff to see the hidden page elements”. The only way he or she could’ve found these are if they work for scratch team which they don’t. Just giving a heads up so when y’all see things like this you can know what it is.
Actually, if you go into the Wayback Machine, and type “schools.scratch.org”, you will see these pages. It takes a while to load, though. They did tell us where they found it, they said they found it at schools.scratch.org, which is an official Scratch subdomain.

Furthermore, they said they executed JavaScript from a template file that revealed each of the elements shown.

IheartGudetuma

mastergamerx-details wrote:
IheartGudetuma wrote:
MyPrimerScratcher wrote:
gem1001 wrote:
samuelthedude wrote:
I’m just wondering, what will it look like? Will there be a beta for us to test?
schools.scratch.org used NGP
I did some stuff to see the hidden page elements

No way! I hope this releases at the end of the year or in 2027!
when green flag clicked
play sound [Meow]
say [Scratch Is Gonna Release a new big update! (The most recent one was in 2019)] for (2) secs
Things like those are most likely fake. I think this is fake because the scratcher who made it didn’t tell us where he found them it just says “ I did some stuff to see the hidden page elements”. The only way he or she could’ve found these are if they work for scratch team which they don’t. Just giving a heads up so when y’all see things like this you can know what it is.
Actually, if you go into the Wayback Machine, and type “schools.scratch.org”, you will see these pages. It takes a while to load, though. They did tell us where they found it, they said they found it at schools.scratch.org, which is an official Scratch subdomain.

I meant the “I did some stuff to find this but thank you friend for your time

_MR_SEGA_

gem1001 wrote:
schools.scratch.org used NGP
I did some stuff to see the hidden page elements

this is actually real, theres a wayback machine hit from nov 9th of 2025 and it shows this, without the header.

Digitat321

NGP is the framework for scratch 4.0, like the things, a transition/bridge between scratch 3.0 and scrach 4.0

tanteteeble

I don't think face sensing was that bad, but if they add other AI then Scratch 4.0, in my opinion, will probably be worse than 3.0 because people will be more reliant on AI than thinking creatively, but hey it's just an opinion so who knows what will happen next

gem1001 wrote:
blackcow29 wrote:
What is your question?
And by the way, I’m glad that they finally gave an official announcement saying that they won’t be using any AI (besides face sensing); I wish they could bring the people that left because of all of those misunderstandings back.
The new website will not have AI.
They are absolutely still adding AI.
codubee wrote:
Is image generation still rejected? - No. In fact, we've tried different design ideas here going back to 2022, and still iterate on that, I have no idea where this idea comes from that it is “rejected”.

Is the cla demo video still accurate? - No, we've been iterating since then and there are actually some really amazing tools that we've come up with that enable direct analysis of a full project, including how it will run, all without actually running the project and it can surface things like, static costumes that have inappropriate words on them, sounds with inappropriate content, and so on. Meanwhile, there has been iteration on the “what it is”.
codubee wrote:
We are absolutely iterating on the CLA and other AI related tooling.
codubee wrote:
I'm not going to come out and say “We'll not be using AI anytime soon” because that's false.

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sup3r_r0ck

Reminder that image generation isn’t confirmed just because it isn’t rejected

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