HOtrains wrote:

Anyone else notice how information about the Scratch 4.0 AI came out about the same time as their new “membership” program? Wonder what they're doing with all that money… *cough cough* (ai is expensive) *cough cough*

I am excited about the new blocks, though.

Pushkarajcoder wrote:

Everyone online is talking about something called Scratch 4.0. What we know so far comes from a few places, although no one at MIT or the Scratch Team has officially confirmed a release date yet. In their 2024 annual report and a job listing, the Scratch Team mentions that in 2025 they're focusing on developing a new version called Scratch 4.0, which will include a reimagined online community and creative AI features
. Some users in forums point out that this sounds like a semi-announcement of a future update, not just a rumor
. In community discussions, one user said it might be planned for the second half of 2026, although others say the target could be 2027, tied to Scratch’s 20th anniversary
. And some believe development might only be starting in 2025, leaving the real release date still unknown
. Some Scratch users aren’t convinced it’s necessary—they worry Scratch 3.0 isn’t even finished and could be improved instead of launching a new version
People also have noticed something called “NGP” (Next Generation Platform) in code repositories, which might be the backbone of 4.0—maybe a new platform or sign-in method like Google accounts
. But others caution that public chatter shouldn't be trusted too much; they remind everyone that no formal announcement has been made and 3.0 still has bugs and unfinished features
. At least one wiki page claims that a Scratch 4.0 beta already exists and dates it to 2024—but this appears to be unreliable and not official
Scratch at MIT
. In short, the rumor of Scratch 4.0 is real—it’s been mentioned in official-looking documents and code. But exactly what it will include, whether AI tools or a redesigned site, and when it will appear are still open questions. Some hope it's soon, others expect delays, and many agree—we’ll need to wait for Scratch Team confirmation to know for sure.

scratchniceperson wrote:

Pushkarajcoder wrote:

(snip of long 4.0-related blurb that is probably AI generated)

you predicted ngp…

HOtrains wrote:

Anyone else notice how information about the Scratch 4.0 AI came out about the same time as their new “membership” program? Wonder what they're doing with all that money… *cough cough* (ai is expensive) *cough cough*

I am excited about the new blocks, though.

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Time's fun when you're having flies

-Kermit the Frog

ispretty wrote:

HOtrains wrote:

Anyone else notice how information about the Scratch 4.0 AI came out about the same time as their new “membership” program? Wonder what they're doing with all that money… *cough cough* (ai is expensive) *cough cough*

I am excited about the new blocks, though.

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Time's fun when you're having flies

-Kermit the Frog

they've literally said in an e-mail that funding the AI is expensive and that you should sign up for memberships. it's doesn't really require a stretch of the imagination to figure it out

ispretty wrote:

Pushkarajcoder wrote:

Everyone online is talking about something called Scratch 4.0. What we know so far comes from a few places, although no one at MIT or the Scratch Team has officially confirmed a release date yet. In their 2024 annual report and a job listing, the Scratch Team mentions that in 2025 they're focusing on developing a new version called Scratch 4.0, which will include a reimagined online community and creative AI features
. Some users in forums point out that this sounds like a semi-announcement of a future update, not just a rumor
. In community discussions, one user said it might be planned for the second half of 2026, although others say the target could be 2027, tied to Scratch’s 20th anniversary
. And some believe development might only be starting in 2025, leaving the real release date still unknown
. Some Scratch users aren’t convinced it’s necessary—they worry Scratch 3.0 isn’t even finished and could be improved instead of launching a new version
People also have noticed something called “NGP” (Next Generation Platform) in code repositories, which might be the backbone of 4.0—maybe a new platform or sign-in method like Google accounts
. But others caution that public chatter shouldn't be trusted too much; they remind everyone that no formal announcement has been made and 3.0 still has bugs and unfinished features
. At least one wiki page claims that a Scratch 4.0 beta already exists and dates it to 2024—but this appears to be unreliable and not official
Scratch at MIT
. In short, the rumor of Scratch 4.0 is real—it’s been mentioned in official-looking documents and code. But exactly what it will include, whether AI tools or a redesigned site, and when it will appear are still open questions. Some hope it's soon, others expect delays, and many agree—we’ll need to wait for Scratch Team confirmation to know for sure.

the second half of 2026 was probably pulled from one of my post, and it was a mistake, I meant 2027

gibonthecow wrote:

Stop posting!

gibonthecow wrote:

Stop posting!

HOtrains wrote:

I am excited about the new blocks, though.

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Hopefully they are better than the online block.

goldboba123 wrote:

When is the release date? I hardly can wait!

scratchniceperson wrote:

I have found some more leaks which look like the ngp on red*it …it is a screenshot so idk how to share the picture here

-_Cherry_Fox_- wrote:

https://scratchfoundation.org/announcements/ngp tells a lot about the new platform. The NGP (next-generation platform) is not going to be Scratch 4.0, but a newer version of scratch so that the ST can build 4.0 off of. I call it Scratch 3.5 because it’s basically right between 3.0 and 4.0.

StudioPangoFan_2000 wrote:

scratchniceperson wrote:

I have found some more leaks which look like the ngp on red*it …it is a screenshot so idk how to share the picture here

It's called the red robot.

gem1001 wrote:

-_Cherry_Fox_- wrote:

https://scratchfoundation.org/announcements/ngp tells a lot about the new platform. The NGP (next-generation platform) is not going to be Scratch 4.0, but a newer version of scratch so that the ST can build 4.0 off of. I call it Scratch 3.5 because it’s basically right between 3.0 and 4.0.

It's just the new website, like how Scratch-WWW came out 4 years before 3.0
The editor is not changing

StudioPangoFan_2000 wrote:

scratchniceperson wrote:

I have found some more leaks which look like the ngp on red*it …it is a screenshot so idk how to share the picture here

It's called the red robot.

It's called Reddit