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forter11
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Why is this stuff allowed/not monitored well? (in my opinion)

Why are furry-type projects allowed on scratch? Hello, I am only stating my opinion in order to get an answer from the scratch team. So anyhow, Furry-type projects are decently harmless in the sense of it's just people drawing animals. However, I believe it is not safe to have on scratch due to how quickly when a child may look up stuff related to furries it can end in highly inappropriate content showing up aswell as teach children that you can believe that you can be and act like a wild animal and that it's normal, which is quite mad. I also believe furry animation memes should not be allowed due to it typically containing topics and themes in the songs in relation to self harm, and gender dysphoria (which we should not be exposing to children). That stuff may be against the rules but i just feel like that content is not governed enough. Only stating my opinion, and I understand freedom of expression and speech, however this expression and speech can sometimes lead to be dangerous stuff for children on Scratch. Please do not ban my account or anything Scratch team, i just want to get my word out and my questions answered.
ThisIsTemp1
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Why is this stuff allowed/not monitored well? (in my opinion)

References to inappropriate content is allowed as long as the reference is appropriate.(One of the only exceptions is Has-been Hotel). As long as the reference to furries is appropriate, it is allowed on Scratch.
Za-Chary
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Why is this stuff allowed/not monitored well? (in my opinion)

ThisIsTemp1 wrote:

References to inappropriate content is allowed as long as the reference is appropriate.
Furries aren't inherently inappropriate…
undeterminstic
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Why is this stuff allowed/not monitored well? (in my opinion)

thing related to thing thus thing is bad is weird logic.
undeterminstic
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Why is this stuff allowed/not monitored well? (in my opinion)

forter11 wrote:

gender dysphoria (which we should not be exposing to children).
woah, you don't like choose gender dysphoria is not a situation that is caused by anything. it is not like a kid seeing gender dysphoric people will experience it themselves. one experiencing gender dysphoria will understand that they are not alone though.
scratchykit5743
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Why is this stuff allowed/not monitored well? (in my opinion)

Anthropomorphic animals aren't inherently inappropriate. If that were to be true, then you wouldn't be able to talk about Mickey Mouse, among other cartoon animals from well-known TV shows (like Mordecai from The Regular Show) on scratch.

Only a vocal minority of anthropomporphic animal artists draw inappropriate things, and that content isn't allowed on scratch anyways. This is a kids' site. Additionally, NSFS furry content has nothing to do with Therianthropy. Seriously, don't confuse the two… being interested in anthropomorphic animals has nothing to do with spiritually identifying as them… And there are no documented cases of anyone going feral over furry drawings nor Therianthropy. Don't spread misinformation.

Animation meme projects shouldn't be banned just because of a few inappropriate songs. They can technically be created with any song, and making a tweened animation of a person or creature isn't inherently inappropriate. Report things that have inappropriate lyrics or themes.

“Gender Dysphoria” is not a trend. It's literally just a phenomenon experienced by transgender people who are uncomfortable with the gender they were assigned at birth. If you really think this is “inappropriate”, don't use the scratch website. Transgender and other LGBTQ+ people are welcomed on this site per the community guidelines. Transphobic behavior isn't welcomed here.

Last edited by scratchykit5743 (Aug. 16, 2024 23:59:37)

yadayadayadagoodbye
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Why is this stuff allowed/not monitored well? (in my opinion)

Because if they were to moderate furry-related projects simply for innapropriate content relating to furries existing on google, then there are WAY more content which has to be removed.

The backrooms, for example, contains some pretty frightening things. If they were to ban all references to furries, theres no reason they wouldn't also ban things such as backrooms.
forter11
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Why is this stuff allowed/not monitored well? (in my opinion)

1st of all, I apologize Scratchykit, though it does confuse me i slightly understand that there's a difference in furries now, therians being only interested in talking animals? though why is there even a name for people like that then why do people identify as therians if its just people interested in talking animals? Im interested in watching ducktales, that makes me a therian (im confused). Furries are different, they IDENTIFY as anthromorphic animals? did i get it right?


2nd of all, i never said gender dysphoria was a trend. IMO i have views towards lgbtq related stuff as i am Cristian but i am not explicitly saying ban all content that says anything to do with lgbtq. I do know i kind of strung off into two arguments on my post whether it be furry content and topics in animation memes that relate to self harm and gender dysphoria. All i was saying is we should not be telling children on scratch and mentioning self harm and gender dysphoria. That is due to if the idea of self harm and gender dysphoria gets in a child's head, it can mess them up bad. I speak from experience, I have been on scratch for 7-8 years (this acc 6) and i found myself finding projects where they discussed gender dysphoria and as a 9, maybe 10 year old child several years back i was heavily confused. It made me think that If i at all wanted to be the opposite gender i WAS the opposite gender, ik that's not how it works but that's what im trying to say, it CONFUSES children, it confused me. I believed i was transgender based solely on newfound feelings that i wanted to be a woman. However, it brang me into deep depression and i was struggling with my faith (religion) because i was just so confused on everything. For proof, if a scratch team member is at all seeing this post you could see on internet archive my other account @ilikeucutg45 i truly believed i was even Non-binary at some point. Im not kidding, this all sprung from scratch, nothing else. Scratch exposed me to ideas that personally messed me up because me personally im NOT trans and it was pulling me away from who i truly was. Im saying children don't know who they are yet, nobody should poke them ideas.
forter11
Scratcher
14 posts

Why is this stuff allowed/not monitored well? (in my opinion)

@yadayadadagoodbye, Obviously they cannot remove all google content in relation to furries, that's impossible.
yadayadayadagoodbye
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Why is this stuff allowed/not monitored well? (in my opinion)

(not bouta quote that big block of text lmao)

Regarding your second point, content which suggest self harm should be reported.

forter11 wrote:

@yadayadadagoodbye, Obviously they cannot remove all google content in relation to furries, that's impossible.
(Are you SURE you read that correctly)
My point was that there are way more franchises, groups, and content which, when searched on google, leads to things Scratch deems innapropriate. If Scratch started banning things for “having innapropriate google search results”, there would be way more things which have to be banned.
forter11
Scratcher
14 posts

Why is this stuff allowed/not monitored well? (in my opinion)

yadayadayadagoodbye wrote:

(not bouta quote that big block of text lmao)

Regarding your second point, content which suggest self harm should be reported.

forter11 wrote:

@yadayadadagoodbye, Obviously they cannot remove all google content in relation to furries, that's impossible.
(Are you SURE you read that correctly)
My point was that there are way more franchises, groups, and content which, when searched on google, leads to things Scratch deems innapropriate. If Scratch started banning things for “having innapropriate google search results”, there would be way more things which have to be banned.


ok, I apologize i spooled off a lil there. what i said was roughly said. I went off saying “children can see inappropriate furry content by searching it up” idk why i said that. When one has a strong opinion they can say nonsense sometimes. My post 2 before yours was not nonsense tho.
sn4pdrag0n
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Why is this stuff allowed/not monitored well? (in my opinion)

as a therian and furry myself-

furries are people who take an interest in anthropomorphic animals- usually in art and other creative content. this interest is not inappropriate unless the specific furry specifies it to be so.

therians are people who experience animalistic behaviors. while this usually means spiritually believing that you are (non-psychically) an animal, it doesn't always.
yes, i know i'm not a coyote.

but to get back on topic-

there's nothing inherently wrong with furries. say that you drew an anthropomorphic cat and said that you were a furry. that wouldn't be innappropriate. report innappropriate furry content if you see it, but keep in mind not to report all furry content unless it's inappropriate.
starlightsparker
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Why is this stuff allowed/not monitored well? (in my opinion)

I’ve avoided posting on this a bit for a reason but I’ll just say
Scratch cat is technically an anthropomorphic animal..
sn4pdrag0n
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Why is this stuff allowed/not monitored well? (in my opinion)

starlightsparker wrote:

I’ve avoided posting on this a bit for a reason but I’ll just say
Scratch cat is technically an anthropomorphic animal..

technically, yes- however, this does not make scratch team furries because they have not stated that they are furries.
forter11
Scratcher
14 posts

Why is this stuff allowed/not monitored well? (in my opinion)

sn4pdrag0n wrote:

as a therian and furry myself-

furries are people who take an interest in anthropomorphic animals- usually in art and other creative content. this interest is not inappropriate unless the specific furry specifies it to be so.

therians are people who experience animalistic behaviors. while this usually means spiritually believing that you are (non-psychically) an animal, it doesn't always.
yes, i know i'm not a coyote.

but to get back on topic-

there's nothing inherently wrong with furries. say that you drew an anthropomorphic cat and said that you were a furry. that wouldn't be innappropriate. report innappropriate furry content if you see it, but keep in mind not to report all furry content unless it's inappropriate.


Sorta got it. Thanks.
forter11
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Why is this stuff allowed/not monitored well? (in my opinion)

The more you know
han614698
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Why is this stuff allowed/not monitored well? (in my opinion)

I think where you're getting confused is where you're saying self harm and gender dysphoria go hand in hand. Self harm is not okay to discuss on Scratch. You are welcome to discuss gender dysphoria on Scratch.

forter11 wrote:

topics in animation memes that relate to self harm and gender dysphoria.
Report anything referencing self harm (don't report memes about gender dysphoria unless they hurtful to others) Sometimes people might create memes to cope with things.
That is due to if the idea of self harm and gender dysphoria gets in a child's head, it can mess them up bad.
Not really, it's not “messed up” to be trans, and also not “messed up” to have feelings of self harm.
l wanted to be the opposite gender i WAS the opposite gender, ik that's not how it works
That literally IS how it works - it's just not biological.
but that's what im trying to say, it CONFUSES children, it confused me.
It doesn't really mean confused - more like “experimenting” it's okay to quote-on-quote experiment as a child so you know how you want to identify when you grow up.
I believed i was transgender based solely on newfound feelings that i wanted to be a woman.
That is the definition of transgender, yes.
However, it brang me into deep depression and i was struggling with my faith (religion) because i was just so confused on everything.
I don't think that transgender and depression are related. Your feelings of depression are a big deal and should not be downplayed but it would be harsh to assume that it's because of seeing gender dysphoria content. You don't have to feel upset about your religion just because you felt those feelings - you can be LGBTQ and religious.
Scratch exposed me to ideas that personally messed me up because me personally im NOT trans and it was pulling me away from who i truly was.
No one is forcing you to be trans. There aren't projects that just say “you are trans” or people who try to convince you you're trans. I also feel like it's offensive for you to keep referring to being trans as “messed up”.
Im saying children don't know who they are yet, nobody should poke them ideas.
I do somewhat agree, but I also feel like it's important to experiment as a child so you know who you are when you're an adult.

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