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kpoovakan

Fluffygamer_ wrote:
orangeluigi wrote:
(#1794)
sometimes when the cloud variables change, it shows in the log, but doesn't actually change the cloud variables.
kpoovakan wrote:
(#1795)
orangeluigi wrote:
sometimes when the cloud variables change, it shows in the log, but doesn't actually change the cloud variables.
yes, that ALWAYS HAPPENS FOR ME
HaVe YoU tRiEd RENAMING THE CLOUD VARIABLES ???

This should be added to the main post, it always fix this very common issue.

yes, and if it works, that's great.
however (no offense intended) the purpose of posting this glitch here is so that the Scratch Team will see and (hopefully) they will find a way to fix the glitch.

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Are all cloud variables down cuz I cant look at the logs and they don't seem to update

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IAmSpeed123 wrote:
Are all cloud variables down cuz I cant look at the logs and they don't seem to update

They appear to be up now and working in my projects that worked before (including this test project from last October). The logs are displaying, updating, and their values are being read when loading the projects.

Note: There are likely to be a large number of historical Scratch cloud projects that do not work correctly due to past cloud events (projects that were never updated to resolve the problems introduced with their variables). I also have a second test project that is expected to not work, because those variables were deliberately never ‘fixed.’ The log is updated for this other project, but the values will not be read by the project unless they change while it is already running.

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ThemeAndReality

kpoovakan wrote:
yes, and if it works, that's great.
however (no offense intended) the purpose of posting this glitch here is so that the Scratch Team will see and (hopefully) they will find a way to fix the glitch.

Have you tried to rename them, and if so, did it fix those particular cloud variables? As you say, it is important that scratchers continue to report the issues they are experiencing. And it is also important to provide feedback on the suggested workarounds, since this information may assist the Scratch Team in investigating, and ultimately fixing the problem.

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Thanks @Fluffygamer_ for taking the time to help others get their cloud variables working, it is very much appreciated

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KROKOBIL

I have a problem that also occurs with many other Scratch projects.
I created a new project with a cloud variable that I can set manually. For example, the cloud variable is set to 5 and I save the project. Now I set it to 6 and reload the project. The cloud variable is at 5, the last save state, but the cloud data history shows a change to 6.
I've tried everything: a new project, several cloud variables, changing cloud variables several times.
However, the cloud variable is updated when I open the project in a second window and set it there. When reloading, the old value of 5 is still there. (So multiplayer is not affected)
This issue occurs on all projects I've tested, not just some of mine.

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dave3m

KROKOBIL wrote:
For example, the cloud variable is set to 5 and I save the project. Now I set it to 6 and reload the project. The cloud variable is at 5, the last save state, but the cloud data history shows a change to 6.
I've tried everything: a new project, several cloud variables, changing cloud variables several times.
However, the cloud variable is updated when I open the project in a second window and set it there. When reloading, the old value of 5 is still there.

This is how the general problem seems to exhibit itself, now. You will see the exact same behaviour with this test project, created earlier this year after the problem resurfaced. The project will record updates to the log, see updates that occur while it is already running (from another copy of the project), but not load the current values when the project starts.

You mentioned trying everything including remaking the variables, but have you tried specifically renaming your variables? When this problem came back at the end of January, we found that new variables in brand new projects would be broken in this way until the newly created variables were renamed. This “fixed” the behaviour of the cloud variables (possibly by re-registering them?) even though they had otherwise already just been newly created.

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KROKOBIL

dave3m wrote:
KROKOBIL wrote:
For example, the cloud variable is set to 5 and I save the project. Now I set it to 6 and reload the project. The cloud variable is at 5, the last save state, but the cloud data history shows a change to 6.
I've tried everything: a new project, several cloud variables, changing cloud variables several times.
However, the cloud variable is updated when I open the project in a second window and set it there. When reloading, the old value of 5 is still there.

This is how the general problem seems to exhibit itself, now. You will see the exact same behaviour with this test project, created earlier this year after the problem resurfaced. The project will record updates to the log, see updates that occur while it is already running (from another copy of the project), but not load the current values when the project starts.

You mentioned trying everything including remaking the variables, but have you tried specifically renaming your variables? When this problem came back at the end of January, we found that new variables in brand new projects would be broken in this way until the newly created variables were renamed. This “fixed” the behaviour of the cloud variables (possibly by re-registering them?) even though they had otherwise already just been newly created.

Thank you so much, it actually works after renaming the variables.

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PastaKoder

Regardless if i reload the page in the editor or project page, relaoding causes the variable to reset to 0. I have no blocks that reset this variable and i tried remaking the variable and it didn't work. Can anyone help me? Thanks. You can find the game at https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/1000776413/

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PastaKoder wrote:
Regardless if i reload the page in the editor or project page, relaoding causes the variable to reset to 0. I have no blocks that reset this variable and i tried remaking the variable and it didn't work. Can anyone help me? Thanks. You can find the game at https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/1000776413/

Try renaming instead of remaking?

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LoxleyMoore wrote:
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I need help with a world record script for my scratch project called geometry spam challenge

What help do you need ? Are you sure it's a glitch ? If you just need help with your script, you are not on the right topic

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Artist_Aiden

Cloud data/variables just aren't saving for other people and adding to the cloud variables.

Superdinosaur222

Same, I'm having high score problems for my game.

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Bobmr2024

When I backpack a sprite with cloud variables, then put it in another project, they turn into “For All Sprites” variables, but the cloud icon doesn't delete.
This is annoying.

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