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24cjackson
Scratcher
14 posts

Why is Scratch taking down BIA mods?

Scratch has started to purge projects that are mods for the historical game BIA. For those who do not know what BIA is will link it here (https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/873242425/)and a studio (https://scratch.mit.edu/studios/34512284/) for it. Anyways, these projects are not made to offend anybody. THey are to provide a historical expiernce or an alternate one. But scratch has taken down ones that were sencored anyways causing many to leave scratch (https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/987527265/) What should the community do? They are being unreasnobly taken down.
24cjackson
Scratcher
14 posts

Why is Scratch taking down BIA mods?

By the way scratch hides these projects and they are not violent at all. A kid wouldn't understand it and they would never find it.
Contraery
Scratcher
100+ posts

Why is Scratch taking down BIA mods?

my device is comparable to a potato so can't do anything, however judging by the thumbnail of the studio and also the mentions of WW1, that's definitely including guns or blood.

The CGs forbid that, as they want people of all ages - Plus the sites intended for learning or teaching as well, so the only way to not get blocked by schools is to also ban guns. Even if they say “If gun don't work, bring more gun”, that's not working here.

EDIT: AKA, what looks to you as “unreasonable takedowns” is actually fairgame.
EDIT2: Also… You are including a certain symbol that is already highly banned unless for educational purpose, which none of them seem to meet.

Last edited by Contraery (March 22, 2024 14:49:14)
























“Goodness gracious I think I just heard the sound of my common sense shattering.”
(…yes, that quote is from an anime.)









italvera
New to Scratch
99 posts

Why is Scratch taking down BIA mods?

It references nono-germany, and USSR, which can trigger 8 yr olds
italvera
New to Scratch
99 posts

Why is Scratch taking down BIA mods?

IAmTr_41 wrote:

Contraery wrote:

my device is comparable to a potato so can't do anything, however judging by the thumbnail of the studio and also the mentions of WW1, that's definitely including guns or blood.

The CGs forbid that, as they want people of all ages - Plus the sites intended for learning or teaching as well, so the only way to not get blocked by schools is to also ban guns. Even if they say “If gun don't work, bring more gun”, that's not working here.
Look, as a BIA Modder, it does not contain any type of violence. ST is just trying to purge entire Scratch History Community because of a German Leader with a weird moustache. We even wrote disclaimers, and the ST did not care.
1 word: KIDS
Kids will not see the disclaimers; and/or not follow them, and see the nono-germany's leader.
24cjackson
Scratcher
14 posts

Why is Scratch taking down BIA mods?

Contraery wrote:

my device is comparable to a potato so can't do anything, however judging by the thumbnail of the studio and also the mentions of WW1, that's definitely including guns or blood.

The CGs forbid that, as they want people of all ages - Plus the sites intended for learning or teaching as well, so the only way to not get blocked by schools is to also ban guns. Even if they say “If gun don't work, bring more gun”, that's not working here.

EDIT: AKA, what looks to you as “unreasonable takedowns” is actually fairgame.
EDIT2: Also… You are including a certain symbol that is already highly banned unless for educational purpose, which none of them seem to meet.

BIA is not violent, highly censored, and is educational exploring different timelines.
italvera
New to Scratch
99 posts

Why is Scratch taking down BIA mods?

IAmTr_41 wrote:

italvera wrote:

IAmTr_41 wrote:

Contraery wrote:

my device is comparable to a potato so can't do anything, however judging by the thumbnail of the studio and also the mentions of WW1, that's definitely including guns or blood.

The CGs forbid that, as they want people of all ages - Plus the sites intended for learning or teaching as well, so the only way to not get blocked by schools is to also ban guns. Even if they say “If gun don't work, bring more gun”, that's not working here.
Look, as a BIA Modder, it does not contain any type of violence. ST is just trying to purge entire Scratch History Community because of a German Leader with a weird moustache. We even wrote disclaimers, and the ST did not care.
1 word: KIDS
Kids will not see the disclaimers; and/or not follow them, and see the nono-germany's leader.
But parents can see them.
Kids are usually unsupervised on the internet, especially Scratch (because it's a children's website)
24cjackson
Scratcher
14 posts

Why is Scratch taking down BIA mods?

italvera wrote:

IAmTr_41 wrote:

italvera wrote:

IAmTr_41 wrote:

Contraery wrote:

my device is comparable to a potato so can't do anything, however judging by the thumbnail of the studio and also the mentions of WW1, that's definitely including guns or blood.

The CGs forbid that, as they want people of all ages - Plus the sites intended for learning or teaching as well, so the only way to not get blocked by schools is to also ban guns. Even if they say “If gun don't work, bring more gun”, that's not working here.
Look, as a BIA Modder, it does not contain any type of violence. ST is just trying to purge entire Scratch History Community because of a German Leader with a weird moustache. We even wrote disclaimers, and the ST did not care.
1 word: KIDS
Kids will not see the disclaimers; and/or not follow them, and see the nono-germany's leader.
But parents can see them.
Kids are usually unsupervised on the internet, especially Scratch (because it's a children's website)
The pictures are starting to be highly censored
Contraery
Scratcher
100+ posts

Why is Scratch taking down BIA mods?

IAmTr_41 wrote:

(#6)
Look, as a BIA Modder, it does not contain any type of violence.
…Atleast you could tone down your thumbnails in that case.

IAmTr_41 wrote:

(#6)
ST is just trying to purge entire Scratch History Community because of a (…)
… When did I say that's the only reason?

IAmTr_41 wrote:

(#6)
We even wrote disclaimers, and the ST did not care.

CG wrote:

We welcome people of all ages, (…)
In that strict regard, everything on Scratch has to be that way. Things that are merely on the border, however aren't that bad, end up on NFE.

And I'm already citing a source. Keep in mind it's from a former ST Member, but that announcement is always in affect.

FNaF Announcement

I'm only focusing on the ones that matter here, others unrelated.

Why not implement an age appropriateness rating system on Scratch?
Everything shared in our community should be appropriate for all ages. Any type of age restriction by the Scratch Team, community members, or creators isn’t aligned with this philosophy.

Can I put a disclaimer on my Scratch project to warn people it's not for all ages?
Everything shared in our community should be appropriate for all ages. Any content that requires a disclaimer or warning isn't aligned with this philosophy and would not be suitable for Scratch. If a warning is needed, it is probably not appropriate for Scratch.

Why are you unsharing my project for being “too scary” when my 6 year-old nephew / sibling / cousin loves it and doesn't think it's scary?
Finding one example of a younger person that is not disturbed by FNAF or similar content doesn't prove that there aren't many others who do find it disturbing. We have heard feedback from many kids, parents, and teachers over the years who feel that some FNAF and similar content in projects are not appropriate for Scratch.
EDIT:

IAmTr_41 wrote:

(#12)
So what about Scratch Jr? It's for kids too.
That's for younger ones.
EDIT2:

24cjackson wrote:

(#13)
The pictures are starting to be highly censored
…Sorry to bring in PFPs here, but your PFP makes that hard to believe.

Last edited by Contraery (March 22, 2024 14:59:10)
























“Goodness gracious I think I just heard the sound of my common sense shattering.”
(…yes, that quote is from an anime.)









Contraery
Scratcher
100+ posts

Why is Scratch taking down BIA mods?

IAmTr_41 wrote:

Scratch is not just full of kids. They have people from ALL ages.
… Your point being?

Last edited by Contraery (March 22, 2024 15:01:28)
























“Goodness gracious I think I just heard the sound of my common sense shattering.”
(…yes, that quote is from an anime.)









italvera
New to Scratch
99 posts

Why is Scratch taking down BIA mods?

IAmTr_41 wrote:

Scratch is not just full of kids. They have people from ALL ages.
Not like it's just adults. There's still plenty of kids (including me)
24cjackson
Scratcher
14 posts

Why is Scratch taking down BIA mods?

Alright guys, I started this chat so we could find a way to get it back please no arguing. BIA is starting to be censored and the bad painter is now more of a wink wink than a main character.
italvera
New to Scratch
99 posts

Why is Scratch taking down BIA mods?

IAmTr_41 wrote:

Contraery wrote:

IAmTr_41 wrote:

Scratch is not just full of kids. They have people from ALL ages.
… Your point being?
When someone creates a horror game in Scratch, they say nothing about it. But when someone creates an Historical Game, everyone reports it.
Actually, no. People do report it.
historianscholar
Scratcher
1 post

Why is Scratch taking down BIA mods?

as a BIA modder which interesting with bia since it become popular, im really sad. tons of my mods are remived by sc team. and i catn do anything to protect my rights. Hakkımı Helal etmiyorum…
Contraery
Scratcher
100+ posts

Why is Scratch taking down BIA mods?

IAmTr_41 wrote:

(#18)
When someone creates a horror game in Scratch, they say nothing about it. But when someone creates an Historical Game, everyone reports it.
You have a lot of bias there… That's wrong in both ways. A lot of horror games tend to get taken down in a few minutes.

In fact, mind you, you get the FNaF announcement shoved in the alert if your horror game gets taken down.

Even then, you can already ask Contact-Us to review it and you can try to tone the game a bit down rather than cause a flame war or two and a big commotion out of it - Protests lead nowhere and is actually bad for both sides, believe it or not.

Either way, Contact-Us is your way to go, but try to ask for help on what to tone down, NOT beg for it to be unbanned.























“Goodness gracious I think I just heard the sound of my common sense shattering.”
(…yes, that quote is from an anime.)









24cjackson
Scratcher
14 posts

Why is Scratch taking down BIA mods?

Contraery wrote:

IAmTr_41 wrote:

(#18)
When someone creates a horror game in Scratch, they say nothing about it. But when someone creates an Historical Game, everyone reports it.
You have a lot of bias there… That's wrong in both ways. A lot of horror games tend to get taken down in a few minutes.

In fact, mind you, you get the FNaF announcement shoved in the alert if your horror game gets taken down.

Even then, you can already ask Contact-Us to review it and you can try to tone the game a bit down rather than cause a flame war or two and a big commotion out of it - Protests lead nowhere and is actually bad for both sides, believe it or not.

Either way, Contact-Us is your way to go, but try to ask for help on what to tone down, NOT beg for it to be unbanned.
I do not want a riot I just want to find a way to get the mods and main project back and bring peace to our community. Many great creators are quitting because of this.
Contraery
Scratcher
100+ posts

Why is Scratch taking down BIA mods?

24cjackson wrote:

(#25)
I do not want a riot
I didn't say you want to - It's the fact that this is moreso becoming a protest, which often leads to bad for both sides on platforms like this. (EDIT: Also big commotions and flame wars. Guess I should've included “accidentally”, though. My bad there - I don't mean to antagonize.)
I just want to find a way to get the mods and main project back and bring peace to our community. Many great creators are quitting because of this.
I mentioned a way:

Contraery wrote:

(#24)
Even then, you can already ask Contact-Us to review it and you can try to tone the game a bit down rather than cause a flame war or two and a big commotion out of it - Protests lead nowhere and is actually bad for both sides, believe it or not.

Either way, Contact-Us is your way to go, but try to ask for help on what to tone down, NOT beg for it to be unbanned.

Last edited by Contraery (March 22, 2024 15:13:13)
























“Goodness gracious I think I just heard the sound of my common sense shattering.”
(…yes, that quote is from an anime.)









ajskateboarder
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Why is Scratch taking down BIA mods?

IAmTr_41 wrote:

italvera wrote:

IAmTr_41 wrote:

Scratch is not just full of kids. They have people from ALL ages.
Not like it's just adults. There's still plenty of kids (including me)
Kids are around 1-8, Pre-teenagers are around 9-12, Teenagers are around 13-18. So it is not just kids.
Doesn't matter - content has to be made for everyone
24cjackson
Scratcher
14 posts

Why is Scratch taking down BIA mods?

Contraery wrote:

24cjackson wrote:

(#25)
I do not want a riot
I didn't say you want to - It's the fact that this is moreso becoming a protest, which often leads to bad for both sides on platforms like this. (EDIT: Also big commotions and flame wars. Guess I should've included “accidentally”, though. My bad there - I don't mean to antagonize.)
I just want to find a way to get the mods and main project back and bring peace to our community. Many great creators are quitting because of this.
I mentioned a way:

Contraery wrote:

(#24)
Even then, you can already ask Contact-Us to review it and you can try to tone the game a bit down rather than cause a flame war or two and a big commotion out of it - Protests lead nowhere and is actually bad for both sides, believe it or not.

Either way, Contact-Us is your way to go, but try to ask for help on what to tone down, NOT beg for it to be unbanned.

Thank you. A lot of people in the community want to riot, and I started this to get a peaceful suggestions to get the projects back. I have already contacted scratch team, and we do need guidance.
Jslay741
Scratcher
1 post

Why is Scratch taking down BIA mods?

Scratch is for ALL ages.

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