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- 24cjackson
- Scratcher
14 posts
Why is Scratch taking down BIA mods?
Scratch has started to purge projects that are mods for the historical game BIA. For those who do not know what BIA is will link it here (https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/873242425/)and a studio (https://scratch.mit.edu/studios/34512284/) for it. Anyways, these projects are not made to offend anybody. THey are to provide a historical expiernce or an alternate one. But scratch has taken down ones that were sencored anyways causing many to leave scratch (https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/987527265/) What should the community do? They are being unreasnobly taken down.
- 24cjackson
- Scratcher
14 posts
Why is Scratch taking down BIA mods?
By the way scratch hides these projects and they are not violent at all. A kid wouldn't understand it and they would never find it.
- Contraery
- Scratcher
100+ posts
Why is Scratch taking down BIA mods?
my device is comparable to a potato so can't do anything, however judging by the thumbnail of the studio and also the mentions of WW1, that's definitely including guns or blood.
The CGs forbid that, as they want people of all ages - Plus the sites intended for learning or teaching as well, so the only way to not get blocked by schools is to also ban guns. Even if they say “If gun don't work, bring more gun”, that's not working here.
EDIT: AKA, what looks to you as “unreasonable takedowns” is actually fairgame.
EDIT2: Also… You are including a certain symbol that is already highly banned unless for educational purpose, which none of them seem to meet.
The CGs forbid that, as they want people of all ages - Plus the sites intended for learning or teaching as well, so the only way to not get blocked by schools is to also ban guns. Even if they say “If gun don't work, bring more gun”, that's not working here.
EDIT: AKA, what looks to you as “unreasonable takedowns” is actually fairgame.
EDIT2: Also… You are including a certain symbol that is already highly banned unless for educational purpose, which none of them seem to meet.
Last edited by Contraery (March 22, 2024 14:49:14)
“Goodness gracious I think I just heard the sound of my common sense shattering.”
(…yes, that quote is from an anime.)
- italvera
- New to Scratch
99 posts
Why is Scratch taking down BIA mods?
It references nono-germany, and USSR, which can trigger 8 yr olds
- italvera
- New to Scratch
99 posts
Why is Scratch taking down BIA mods?
1 word: KIDSLook, as a BIA Modder, it does not contain any type of violence. ST is just trying to purge entire Scratch History Community because of a German Leader with a weird moustache. We even wrote disclaimers, and the ST did not care. my device is comparable to a potato so can't do anything, however judging by the thumbnail of the studio and also the mentions of WW1, that's definitely including guns or blood.
The CGs forbid that, as they want people of all ages - Plus the sites intended for learning or teaching as well, so the only way to not get blocked by schools is to also ban guns. Even if they say “If gun don't work, bring more gun”, that's not working here.
Kids will not see the disclaimers; and/or not follow them, and see the nono-germany's leader.
- 24cjackson
- Scratcher
14 posts
Why is Scratch taking down BIA mods?
my device is comparable to a potato so can't do anything, however judging by the thumbnail of the studio and also the mentions of WW1, that's definitely including guns or blood.
The CGs forbid that, as they want people of all ages - Plus the sites intended for learning or teaching as well, so the only way to not get blocked by schools is to also ban guns. Even if they say “If gun don't work, bring more gun”, that's not working here.
EDIT: AKA, what looks to you as “unreasonable takedowns” is actually fairgame.
EDIT2: Also… You are including a certain symbol that is already highly banned unless for educational purpose, which none of them seem to meet.
BIA is not violent, highly censored, and is educational exploring different timelines.
- italvera
- New to Scratch
99 posts
Why is Scratch taking down BIA mods?
Kids are usually unsupervised on the internet, especially Scratch (because it's a children's website)But parents can see them.1 word: KIDSLook, as a BIA Modder, it does not contain any type of violence. ST is just trying to purge entire Scratch History Community because of a German Leader with a weird moustache. We even wrote disclaimers, and the ST did not care. my device is comparable to a potato so can't do anything, however judging by the thumbnail of the studio and also the mentions of WW1, that's definitely including guns or blood.
The CGs forbid that, as they want people of all ages - Plus the sites intended for learning or teaching as well, so the only way to not get blocked by schools is to also ban guns. Even if they say “If gun don't work, bring more gun”, that's not working here.
Kids will not see the disclaimers; and/or not follow them, and see the nono-germany's leader.
- 24cjackson
- Scratcher
14 posts
Why is Scratch taking down BIA mods?
The pictures are starting to be highly censoredKids are usually unsupervised on the internet, especially Scratch (because it's a children's website)But parents can see them.1 word: KIDSLook, as a BIA Modder, it does not contain any type of violence. ST is just trying to purge entire Scratch History Community because of a German Leader with a weird moustache. We even wrote disclaimers, and the ST did not care. my device is comparable to a potato so can't do anything, however judging by the thumbnail of the studio and also the mentions of WW1, that's definitely including guns or blood.
The CGs forbid that, as they want people of all ages - Plus the sites intended for learning or teaching as well, so the only way to not get blocked by schools is to also ban guns. Even if they say “If gun don't work, bring more gun”, that's not working here.
Kids will not see the disclaimers; and/or not follow them, and see the nono-germany's leader.
- Contraery
- Scratcher
100+ posts
Why is Scratch taking down BIA mods?
(#6)…Atleast you could tone down your thumbnails in that case.
Look, as a BIA Modder, it does not contain any type of violence.
(#6)… When did I say that's the only reason?
ST is just trying to purge entire Scratch History Community because of a (…)
(#6)
We even wrote disclaimers, and the ST did not care.
all ages, (…)In that strict regard, We welcome people of everything on Scratch has to be that way. Things that are merely on the border, however aren't that bad, end up on NFE.
And I'm already citing a source. Keep in mind it's from a former ST Member, but that announcement is always in affect.
FNaF Announcement
I'm only focusing on the ones that matter here, others unrelated.
Why not implement an age appropriateness rating system on Scratch?EDIT:
Everything shared in our community should be appropriate for all ages. Any type of age restriction by the Scratch Team, community members, or creators isn’t aligned with this philosophy.
Can I put a disclaimer on my Scratch project to warn people it's not for all ages?
Everything shared in our community should be appropriate for all ages. Any content that requires a disclaimer or warning isn't aligned with this philosophy and would not be suitable for Scratch. If a warning is needed, it is probably not appropriate for Scratch.
Why are you unsharing my project for being “too scary” when my 6 year-old nephew / sibling / cousin loves it and doesn't think it's scary?
Finding one example of a younger person that is not disturbed by FNAF or similar content doesn't prove that there aren't many others who do find it disturbing. We have heard feedback from many kids, parents, and teachers over the years who feel that some FNAF and similar content in projects are not appropriate for Scratch.
(#12)That's for younger ones.
So what about Scratch Jr? It's for kids too.
EDIT2:
(#13)…Sorry to bring in PFPs here, but your PFP makes that hard to believe.
The pictures are starting to be highly censored
Last edited by Contraery (March 22, 2024 14:59:10)
“Goodness gracious I think I just heard the sound of my common sense shattering.”
(…yes, that quote is from an anime.)
- Contraery
- Scratcher
100+ posts
Why is Scratch taking down BIA mods?
… Your point being? Scratch is not just full of kids. They have people from ALL ages.
Last edited by Contraery (March 22, 2024 15:01:28)
“Goodness gracious I think I just heard the sound of my common sense shattering.”
(…yes, that quote is from an anime.)
- italvera
- New to Scratch
99 posts
Why is Scratch taking down BIA mods?
Not like it's just adults. There's still plenty of kids (including me) Scratch is not just full of kids. They have people from ALL ages.
- 24cjackson
- Scratcher
14 posts
Why is Scratch taking down BIA mods?
Alright guys, I started this chat so we could find a way to get it back please no arguing. BIA is starting to be censored and the bad painter is now more of a wink wink than a main character.
- italvera
- New to Scratch
99 posts
Why is Scratch taking down BIA mods?
Actually, no. People do report it.When someone creates a horror game in Scratch, they say nothing about it. But when someone creates an Historical Game, everyone reports it.… Your point being? Scratch is not just full of kids. They have people from ALL ages.
- historianscholar
- Scratcher
1 post
Why is Scratch taking down BIA mods?
as a BIA modder which interesting with bia since it become popular, im really sad. tons of my mods are remived by sc team. and i catn do anything to protect my rights. Hakkımı Helal etmiyorum…
- Contraery
- Scratcher
100+ posts
Why is Scratch taking down BIA mods?
(#18)You have a lot of bias there… That's wrong in both ways. A lot of horror games tend to get taken down in a few minutes.
When someone creates a horror game in Scratch, they say nothing about it. But when someone creates an Historical Game, everyone reports it.
In fact, mind you, you get the FNaF announcement shoved in the alert if your horror game gets taken down.
Even then, you can already ask Contact-Us to review it and you can try to tone the game a bit down rather than cause a flame war or two and a big commotion out of it - Protests lead nowhere and is actually bad for both sides, believe it or not.
Either way, Contact-Us is your way to go, but try to ask for help on what to tone down, NOT beg for it to be unbanned.
“Goodness gracious I think I just heard the sound of my common sense shattering.”
(…yes, that quote is from an anime.)
- 24cjackson
- Scratcher
14 posts
Why is Scratch taking down BIA mods?
I do not want a riot I just want to find a way to get the mods and main project back and bring peace to our community. Many great creators are quitting because of this.(#18)You have a lot of bias there… That's wrong in both ways. A lot of horror games tend to get taken down in a few minutes.
When someone creates a horror game in Scratch, they say nothing about it. But when someone creates an Historical Game, everyone reports it.
In fact, mind you, you get the FNaF announcement shoved in the alert if your horror game gets taken down.
Even then, you can already ask Contact-Us to review it and you can try to tone the game a bit down rather than cause a flame war or two and a big commotion out of it - Protests lead nowhere and is actually bad for both sides, believe it or not.
Either way, Contact-Us is your way to go, but try to ask for help on what to tone down, NOT beg for it to be unbanned.
- Contraery
- Scratcher
100+ posts
Why is Scratch taking down BIA mods?
(#25)I didn't say you want to - It's the fact that this is moreso becoming a protest, which often leads to bad for both sides on platforms like this. (EDIT: Also big commotions and flame wars. Guess I should've included “accidentally”, though. My bad there - I don't mean to antagonize.)
I do not want a riot
I just want to find a way to get the mods and main project back and bring peace to our community. Many great creators are quitting because of this.I mentioned a way:
(#24)
Even then, you can already ask Contact-Us to review it and you can try to tone the game a bit down rather than cause a flame war or two and a big commotion out of it - Protests lead nowhere and is actually bad for both sides, believe it or not.
Either way, Contact-Us is your way to go, but try to ask for help on what to tone down, NOT beg for it to be unbanned.
Last edited by Contraery (March 22, 2024 15:13:13)
“Goodness gracious I think I just heard the sound of my common sense shattering.”
(…yes, that quote is from an anime.)
- ajskateboarder
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
Why is Scratch taking down BIA mods?
Doesn't matter - content has to be made for everyoneKids are around 1-8, Pre-teenagers are around 9-12, Teenagers are around 13-18. So it is not just kids.Not like it's just adults. There's still plenty of kids (including me) Scratch is not just full of kids. They have people from ALL ages.
- 24cjackson
- Scratcher
14 posts
Why is Scratch taking down BIA mods?
(#25)I didn't say you want to - It's the fact that this is moreso becoming a protest, which often leads to bad for both sides on platforms like this. (EDIT: Also big commotions and flame wars. Guess I should've included “accidentally”, though. My bad there - I don't mean to antagonize.)
I do not want a riotI just want to find a way to get the mods and main project back and bring peace to our community. Many great creators are quitting because of this.I mentioned a way:(#24)
Even then, you can already ask Contact-Us to review it and you can try to tone the game a bit down rather than cause a flame war or two and a big commotion out of it - Protests lead nowhere and is actually bad for both sides, believe it or not.
Either way, Contact-Us is your way to go, but try to ask for help on what to tone down, NOT beg for it to be unbanned.
Thank you. A lot of people in the community want to riot, and I started this to get a peaceful suggestions to get the projects back. I have already contacted scratch team, and we do need guidance.
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