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- EngineerRunner
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
allow new accounts on the forums immediately in certain cases
it can be a bit annoying waiting the 5 days for a new alt account to be allowed on the forums. there is a suggestion to completely abolish this wait, but i think that's a bit overkill for a feature that has noticeably reduced attacks on the forums. so, i propose a middle-ground:
accounts will be immediately allowed on the forums, IF all of these conditions are met:
- they have the same IP address as a prexisting account
- that prexisting account has at least 100 forum posts
- NONE of the accounts on their IP address are banned (permanently or temporarily)
- their account has a verified email address
this should still fix the problem that the 5 day wait fixed, but should eliminate some of the annoyance around it.
accounts will be immediately allowed on the forums, IF all of these conditions are met:
- they have the same IP address as a prexisting account
- that prexisting account has at least 100 forum posts
- NONE of the accounts on their IP address are banned (permanently or temporarily)
- their account has a verified email address
this should still fix the problem that the 5 day wait fixed, but should eliminate some of the annoyance around it.
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RickRoIler (the first l is a capital i) on PSN, NotXboxGamer765 on xbox (and by that i mean xbox 360), EngineerRunner on Minecraft (find me on hypixel)
also im on the orange cat social media as EngineerRunner
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if any of my suggestions ever get accepted, i will have my profile picture set to Just Stamp The Ticket Man for 3 months
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an australian cumquat ate my snag and onions
“maintainer” of Pyratch, a very simple text-focused frontend for Scratch
oh god am I becoming an ATer
when I am deleted ::hat controlcasually taking over the forums:
ask (join (join [what the hell does ] (when I am deleted ::hat control)) [ do?]) and wait
create clone of [Stage v]
delete this project ::control
stop [eh, a few] sounds ::sound
this is what happens when school goes back in the US, scratch has like no activity
when I am deleted ::hat control
create clone of [Stage v]
delete this project ::control
stop [eh, a few] sounds ::sound
- Malicondi
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
allow new accounts on the forums immediately in certain cases
trolls when they can create an army of accounts:
post #1000 post #100 i help in the forums post #1 post #500 0 second ninja
I recommend reading jvvg's essay about the scratch team before complaining, as it may change your opinion and provide insight on the topic.
coming soon :)
I recommend reading jvvg's essay about the scratch team before complaining, as it may change your opinion and provide insight on the topic.
coming soon :)
- cactus-cacti
- Scratcher
100+ posts
allow new accounts on the forums immediately in certain cases
this would solve lots of problems with alts of forumers.
- UnstablyCorrect
- New to Scratch
20 posts
allow new accounts on the forums immediately in certain cases
I would feel this is like bypassing the scratcher wait, just something different. I don't see a difference between the two barriers against trolls, so this may be rejected. Although I haven't seen the other suggestion, maybe Paddle said something otherwise.
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- EngineerRunner
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
allow new accounts on the forums immediately in certain cases
one of those accounts get banned, they cant do that. trolls when they can create an army of accounts:
and they need to have an account with 100+ posts without getting banned anyway, so they'd have to be constructive for a couple days, and would probably take longer than just waiting for it, since that account would also initially have to wait 5 days.
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simpsons and futurama fan
RickRoIler (the first l is a capital i) on PSN, NotXboxGamer765 on xbox (and by that i mean xbox 360), EngineerRunner on Minecraft (find me on hypixel)
also im on the orange cat social media as EngineerRunner
join the worst guild on hypixel with this command!!1/!/!?1/!/
/guild join los gamers
if any of my suggestions ever get accepted, i will have my profile picture set to Just Stamp The Ticket Man for 3 months
give internets pls
an australian cumquat ate my snag and onions
“maintainer” of Pyratch, a very simple text-focused frontend for Scratch
oh god am I becoming an ATer
when I am deleted ::hat controlcasually taking over the forums:
ask (join (join [what the hell does ] (when I am deleted ::hat control)) [ do?]) and wait
create clone of [Stage v]
delete this project ::control
stop [eh, a few] sounds ::sound
this is what happens when school goes back in the US, scratch has like no activity
when I am deleted ::hat control
create clone of [Stage v]
delete this project ::control
stop [eh, a few] sounds ::sound
- -Rodri
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
allow new accounts on the forums immediately in certain cases
can't you just make two accounts with the same IP address and get over point one? though this sounds like an awesome idea, i doubt it would help, because you DO NOT wanna know the things some trollers do just to troll.
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- EngineerRunner
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
allow new accounts on the forums immediately in certain cases
nah, i reckon they're different, since the suggestion to remove the 5-day limit isn't rejected I would feel this is like bypassing the scratcher wait, just something different. I don't see a difference between the two barriers against trolls, so this may be rejected. Although I haven't seen the other suggestion, maybe Paddle said something otherwise.
social experiment: comment here to not get curator
simpsons and futurama fan
RickRoIler (the first l is a capital i) on PSN, NotXboxGamer765 on xbox (and by that i mean xbox 360), EngineerRunner on Minecraft (find me on hypixel)
also im on the orange cat social media as EngineerRunner
join the worst guild on hypixel with this command!!1/!/!?1/!/
/guild join los gamers
if any of my suggestions ever get accepted, i will have my profile picture set to Just Stamp The Ticket Man for 3 months
give internets pls
an australian cumquat ate my snag and onions
“maintainer” of Pyratch, a very simple text-focused frontend for Scratch
oh god am I becoming an ATer
when I am deleted ::hat controlcasually taking over the forums:
ask (join (join [what the hell does ] (when I am deleted ::hat control)) [ do?]) and wait
create clone of [Stage v]
delete this project ::control
stop [eh, a few] sounds ::sound
this is what happens when school goes back in the US, scratch has like no activity
when I am deleted ::hat control
create clone of [Stage v]
delete this project ::control
stop [eh, a few] sounds ::sound
- Malicondi
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
allow new accounts on the forums immediately in certain cases
They could still use an VPN or proxy to bypass ip, and getting 100 posts doesn't have to all be constructive, they could be in TIMaC or SaT/Collaborations, which can just be chatting. one of those accounts get banned, they cant do that.
and they need to have an account with 100+ posts without getting banned anyway, so they'd have to be constructive for a couple days, and would probably take longer than just waiting for it, since that account would also initially have to wait 5 days.
Although I would like this, I still think this would allow trolls into the forums much easier, as 5 days isn't really that long to wait and I could just wait that out with an alt, which I have on my test account.
post #1000 post #100 i help in the forums post #1 post #500 0 second ninja
I recommend reading jvvg's essay about the scratch team before complaining, as it may change your opinion and provide insight on the topic.
coming soon :)
I recommend reading jvvg's essay about the scratch team before complaining, as it may change your opinion and provide insight on the topic.
coming soon :)
- EngineerRunner
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
allow new accounts on the forums immediately in certain cases
yeah, but you would have to: can't you just make two accounts with the same IP address and get over point one? though this sounds like an awesome idea, i doubt it would help, because you DO NOT wanna know the things some trollers do just to troll.
1. wait 5 days for the first account to be allowed on the forums
2. get to 100 posts without being banned (so no doing anything inappropriate)
3. create a new account, and troll on it, which gets IP banned
4. repeat that to do it again.
and that'd take more than 5 days, so it doesn't change much for trolls than the current system
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simpsons and futurama fan
RickRoIler (the first l is a capital i) on PSN, NotXboxGamer765 on xbox (and by that i mean xbox 360), EngineerRunner on Minecraft (find me on hypixel)
also im on the orange cat social media as EngineerRunner
join the worst guild on hypixel with this command!!1/!/!?1/!/
/guild join los gamers
if any of my suggestions ever get accepted, i will have my profile picture set to Just Stamp The Ticket Man for 3 months
give internets pls
an australian cumquat ate my snag and onions
“maintainer” of Pyratch, a very simple text-focused frontend for Scratch
oh god am I becoming an ATer
when I am deleted ::hat controlcasually taking over the forums:
ask (join (join [what the hell does ] (when I am deleted ::hat control)) [ do?]) and wait
create clone of [Stage v]
delete this project ::control
stop [eh, a few] sounds ::sound
this is what happens when school goes back in the US, scratch has like no activity
when I am deleted ::hat control
create clone of [Stage v]
delete this project ::control
stop [eh, a few] sounds ::sound
- Za-Chary
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
allow new accounts on the forums immediately in certain cases
If you want to use the forums, why not just use the forums on your main account?
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- EngineerRunner
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
allow new accounts on the forums immediately in certain cases
yes, but this doesn't skip it for trolls, and actually takes longer than just waiting the current 5 days. (reasoning in #9)They could still use an VPN or proxy to bypass ip, and getting 100 posts doesn't have to all be constructive, they could be in TIMaC or SaT/Collaborations, which can just be chatting. one of those accounts get banned, they cant do that.
and they need to have an account with 100+ posts without getting banned anyway, so they'd have to be constructive for a couple days, and would probably take longer than just waiting for it, since that account would also initially have to wait 5 days.
social experiment: comment here to not get curator
simpsons and futurama fan
RickRoIler (the first l is a capital i) on PSN, NotXboxGamer765 on xbox (and by that i mean xbox 360), EngineerRunner on Minecraft (find me on hypixel)
also im on the orange cat social media as EngineerRunner
join the worst guild on hypixel with this command!!1/!/!?1/!/
/guild join los gamers
if any of my suggestions ever get accepted, i will have my profile picture set to Just Stamp The Ticket Man for 3 months
give internets pls
an australian cumquat ate my snag and onions
“maintainer” of Pyratch, a very simple text-focused frontend for Scratch
oh god am I becoming an ATer
when I am deleted ::hat controlcasually taking over the forums:
ask (join (join [what the hell does ] (when I am deleted ::hat control)) [ do?]) and wait
create clone of [Stage v]
delete this project ::control
stop [eh, a few] sounds ::sound
this is what happens when school goes back in the US, scratch has like no activity
when I am deleted ::hat control
create clone of [Stage v]
delete this project ::control
stop [eh, a few] sounds ::sound
- EngineerRunner
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
allow new accounts on the forums immediately in certain cases
some people might want to leave their old account behind, or try something new on new subforums without wanting to be associated with their old account. If you want to use the forums, why not just use the forums on your main account?
social experiment: comment here to not get curator
simpsons and futurama fan
RickRoIler (the first l is a capital i) on PSN, NotXboxGamer765 on xbox (and by that i mean xbox 360), EngineerRunner on Minecraft (find me on hypixel)
also im on the orange cat social media as EngineerRunner
join the worst guild on hypixel with this command!!1/!/!?1/!/
/guild join los gamers
if any of my suggestions ever get accepted, i will have my profile picture set to Just Stamp The Ticket Man for 3 months
give internets pls
an australian cumquat ate my snag and onions
“maintainer” of Pyratch, a very simple text-focused frontend for Scratch
oh god am I becoming an ATer
when I am deleted ::hat controlcasually taking over the forums:
ask (join (join [what the hell does ] (when I am deleted ::hat control)) [ do?]) and wait
create clone of [Stage v]
delete this project ::control
stop [eh, a few] sounds ::sound
this is what happens when school goes back in the US, scratch has like no activity
when I am deleted ::hat control
create clone of [Stage v]
delete this project ::control
stop [eh, a few] sounds ::sound
- UnstablyCorrect
- New to Scratch
20 posts
allow new accounts on the forums immediately in certain cases
tbh still same idea. I'll quote paddle rejecting new scratcher skippingnah, i reckon they're different, since the suggestion to remove the 5-day limit isn't rejected I would feel this is like bypassing the scratcher wait, just something different. I don't see a difference between the two barriers against trolls, so this may be rejected. Although I haven't seen the other suggestion, maybe Paddle said something otherwise.
ST does not like people making new accounts, it seems. (New accounts are very easily banned) so that's partially why New Scratcher status skipping is rejected, and the logic can be extended to the 5-day posting rule, and then this. … And that's to make it more difficult for people to spawn new accounts. We actually want people to feel invested in their accounts so that they won't be inclined to make a bunch of other accounts - which is confusing to the community and adds additional work to the moderators.
So making it easier to make more accounts is not really something we want to encourage
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- EngineerRunner
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
allow new accounts on the forums immediately in certain cases
bump
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simpsons and futurama fan
RickRoIler (the first l is a capital i) on PSN, NotXboxGamer765 on xbox (and by that i mean xbox 360), EngineerRunner on Minecraft (find me on hypixel)
also im on the orange cat social media as EngineerRunner
join the worst guild on hypixel with this command!!1/!/!?1/!/
/guild join los gamers
if any of my suggestions ever get accepted, i will have my profile picture set to Just Stamp The Ticket Man for 3 months
give internets pls
an australian cumquat ate my snag and onions
“maintainer” of Pyratch, a very simple text-focused frontend for Scratch
oh god am I becoming an ATer
when I am deleted ::hat controlcasually taking over the forums:
ask (join (join [what the hell does ] (when I am deleted ::hat control)) [ do?]) and wait
create clone of [Stage v]
delete this project ::control
stop [eh, a few] sounds ::sound
this is what happens when school goes back in the US, scratch has like no activity
when I am deleted ::hat control
create clone of [Stage v]
delete this project ::control
stop [eh, a few] sounds ::sound
- EngineerRunner
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
allow new accounts on the forums immediately in certain cases
bump
social experiment: comment here to not get curator
simpsons and futurama fan
RickRoIler (the first l is a capital i) on PSN, NotXboxGamer765 on xbox (and by that i mean xbox 360), EngineerRunner on Minecraft (find me on hypixel)
also im on the orange cat social media as EngineerRunner
join the worst guild on hypixel with this command!!1/!/!?1/!/
/guild join los gamers
if any of my suggestions ever get accepted, i will have my profile picture set to Just Stamp The Ticket Man for 3 months
give internets pls
an australian cumquat ate my snag and onions
“maintainer” of Pyratch, a very simple text-focused frontend for Scratch
oh god am I becoming an ATer
when I am deleted ::hat controlcasually taking over the forums:
ask (join (join [what the hell does ] (when I am deleted ::hat control)) [ do?]) and wait
create clone of [Stage v]
delete this project ::control
stop [eh, a few] sounds ::sound
this is what happens when school goes back in the US, scratch has like no activity
when I am deleted ::hat control
create clone of [Stage v]
delete this project ::control
stop [eh, a few] sounds ::sound
- LP372
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
allow new accounts on the forums immediately in certain cases
some scratchers have a forum account If you want to use the forums, why not just use the forums on your main account?
example: Main is @exampleuser and Alt is @exampleuserforums
They might also have a tutor acc that they use for HwS
- EngineerRunner
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
allow new accounts on the forums immediately in certain cases
bump
social experiment: comment here to not get curator
simpsons and futurama fan
RickRoIler (the first l is a capital i) on PSN, NotXboxGamer765 on xbox (and by that i mean xbox 360), EngineerRunner on Minecraft (find me on hypixel)
also im on the orange cat social media as EngineerRunner
join the worst guild on hypixel with this command!!1/!/!?1/!/
/guild join los gamers
if any of my suggestions ever get accepted, i will have my profile picture set to Just Stamp The Ticket Man for 3 months
give internets pls
an australian cumquat ate my snag and onions
“maintainer” of Pyratch, a very simple text-focused frontend for Scratch
oh god am I becoming an ATer
when I am deleted ::hat controlcasually taking over the forums:
ask (join (join [what the hell does ] (when I am deleted ::hat control)) [ do?]) and wait
create clone of [Stage v]
delete this project ::control
stop [eh, a few] sounds ::sound
this is what happens when school goes back in the US, scratch has like no activity
when I am deleted ::hat control
create clone of [Stage v]
delete this project ::control
stop [eh, a few] sounds ::sound
- LP372
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
allow new accounts on the forums immediately in certain cases
also: what about if the scratcher hit 100 posts, but most of them were spam or unconstructive (by unconstructive i mean like ‘support’ or ‘why’ and very little else
- randomguy3513
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
allow new accounts on the forums immediately in certain cases
It isn't exactly rejected but this is kind of like skipping the new scratcher status suggestion, which is rejected and has a lot of reasons why this should be rejected as well.
8.2 Add a rank above Scratcher or allow users to skip the New Scratcher status
There are three ranks: New Scratcher, Scratcher, and Scratch Team. The only reason the New Scratcher rank exists is to prevent spam, and since it only takes a few weeks to become a Scratcher, bullying and separation are rather minimal. Similarly, the Scratch Team rank exists so users know who is on the Scratch Team; generally, Scratch Team members do not brag about the Scratch Team rank. In contrast, there may be division in the community between Scratchers and those with a higher rank, which could also lead to bragging and bullying. This also includes a “verified Scratcher” status where well-known Scratchers get a special symbol next to their name.
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- cactus-cacti
- Scratcher
100+ posts
allow new accounts on the forums immediately in certain cases
It isn't exactly rejected but this is kind of like skipping the new scratcher status suggestion, which is rejected and has a lot of reasons why this should be rejected as well. snip
8.2 Add a rank above Scratcher or allow users to skip the New Scratcher statusespecially that part
There are three ranks: New Scratcher, Scratcher, and Scratch Team. The only reason the New Scratcher rank exists is to prevent spam, and since it only takes a few weeks to become a Scratcher, bullying and separation are rather minimal. Similarly, the Scratch Team rank exists so users know who is on the Scratch Team; generally, Scratch Team members do not brag about the Scratch Team rank. In contrast, there may be division in the community between Scratchers and those with a higher rank, which could also lead to bragging and bullying. This also includes a “verified Scratcher” status where well-known Scratchers get a special symbol next to their name.
Last edited by cactus-cacti (March 25, 2024 13:38:30)
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