Discuss Scratch

Pokypup1
Scratcher
12 posts

Hello world!

Change the default text in the
say [Hello World!]
from Hello! to Hello World!

just because it would be a fun little detail
banana439monkey
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Hello world!

this would be pretty far down the st's agenda and might not even get implemented at all, especially since it's a small change that's most likely not going to get noticed whatsoever by anyone, has the potential to distract (only very slightly but nonetheless) from development of features and patches, and makes no appreciable difference (qol, ux or otherwise) to scratch or its users

Banana
Za-Chary
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Hello world!

I think “Hello” is a pretty standard greeting that one would expect one character to say to another.

I don't know if this is related, but consider the following block in the Scratch 3.0 editor:

(join [apple] [banana])

The default values in Scratch 3.0 are “apple” and “banana”, but in Scratch 1.x and 2.0 it was “hello” and “world”. Is there a reason why this would have been changed? If so, the Scratch Team may be unlikely to change the default value in the “say” block to “Hello World!”
GlitchedThrough
New Scratcher
1000+ posts

Hello world!

Za-Chary wrote:

I think “Hello” is a pretty standard greeting that one would expect one character to say to another.

I don't know if this is related, but consider the following block in the Scratch 3.0 editor:

(join [apple] [banana])

The default values in Scratch 3.0 are “apple” and “banana”, but in Scratch 1.x and 2.0 it was “hello” and “world”. Is there a reason why this would have been changed? If so, the Scratch Team may be unlikely to change the default value in the “say” block to “Hello World!”
I think its because of what Hello World is, its typically a simple program meant to ensure you set up an IDE properly:
import <iostream>

int main(){
std::cout<<“Hello World!”;
}
Essentially, it tests the IDE can perform proper IO. The join block isn’t something I’d associate with the join block personally, but the speak block could be benefited from it, being that its used so much in programming/CS in general.
undeterminstic
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Hello world!

GlitchedThrough wrote:

The join block isn’t something I’d associate with the join block personally
Uhh what does that mean
GIitchInTheMatrix
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Hello world!

undeterminstic wrote:

GlitchedThrough wrote:

The join block isn’t something I’d associate with the join block personally
Uhh what does that mean
I mistyped. I meant that it isn’t typically associated in IO in how a kid probably would associate it with in Scratch, that is output to the stage.
Aaliyah_Newlands
Scratcher
500+ posts

Hello world!

Pokypup1 wrote:

Change the default text in the
say [Hello World!]
from Hello! to Hello World!

just because it would be a fun little detail

As you mentioned, it would be a fun little detail, it is probably too small for people to notice as people these days dont notice as much as they used to. This might go to the ST, but it almost has no chance of being implemented as it is such a small detail…

Hope you dont misunderstand
Aaliyah_Newlands
Scratcher
500+ posts

Hello world!

Za-Chary wrote:

I think “Hello” is a pretty standard greeting that one would expect one character to say to another.

I don't know if this is related, but consider the following block in the Scratch 3.0 editor:

(join [apple] [banana])

The default values in Scratch 3.0 are “apple” and “banana”, but in Scratch 1.x and 2.0 it was “hello” and “world”. Is there a reason why this would have been changed? If so, the Scratch Team may be unlikely to change the default value in the “say” block to “Hello World!”

So you can't change it to a more general greeting a bit easier to delete like Hi cuz when i'm deleting the “hello” from the talking bubble it sometimes glitches and takes too long in the end to delete it. I'm not sure if there's a bug report forum but let me just see if there is a bug report forum.
GlitchedThrough
New Scratcher
1000+ posts

Hello world!

Aaliyah_Newlands wrote:

Pokypup1 wrote:

Change the default text in the
say [Hello World!]
from Hello! to Hello World!

just because it would be a fun little detail

As you mentioned, it would be a fun little detail, it is probably too small for people to notice as people these days dont notice as much as they used to. This might go to the ST, but it almost has no chance of being implemented as it is such a small detail…

Hope you dont misunderstand
The ST can see every post.
Also, it can easily lead to kids going to more advanced languages.
Gamer_Logan819
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Hello world!

GlitchedThrough wrote:

Aaliyah_Newlands wrote:

Pokypup1 wrote:

Change the default text in the
say [Hello World!]
from Hello! to Hello World!

just because it would be a fun little detail

As you mentioned, it would be a fun little detail, it is probably too small for people to notice as people these days dont notice as much as they used to. This might go to the ST, but it almost has no chance of being implemented as it is such a small detail…

Hope you dont misunderstand
The ST can see every post.
Also, it can easily lead to kids going to more advanced languages.
Which is scratch’s goal
undeterministic
Scratcher
500+ posts

Hello world!

Gamer_Logan819 wrote:

GlitchedThrough wrote:

Aaliyah_Newlands wrote:

Pokypup1 wrote:

Change the default text in the
say [Hello World!]
from Hello! to Hello World!

just because it would be a fun little detail

As you mentioned, it would be a fun little detail, it is probably too small for people to notice as people these days dont notice as much as they used to. This might go to the ST, but it almost has no chance of being implemented as it is such a small detail…

Hope you dont misunderstand
The ST can see every post.
Also, it can easily lead to kids going to more advanced languages.
Which is scratch’s goal
beginners would just write “hello world” not “hello” how will this help them at all?

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