The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

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Adding Imjur as an image host just got rejected. Not sure if this is popular enough to get added though.

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RobotChickens wrote:
Adding Imjur as an image host just got rejected. Not sure if this is popular enough to get added though.

I think adding rejected image hosts in general fits that.

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Zydrolic

Could there be a note added to tell people that if they really complain about slow load times, they could just view the list from source? For example, just above general information:

NOTE
If the page load time feels too slow, view the list from source.

BBCode:

[big][b]NOTE[/b][/big]
If the page load time feels too slow, view the list from [url=https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/post/3466932/source/]source[/url].

And as for the Table of Contents, perhaps to this:

Click here for a table of contents with shorter explanations on why suggestions are rejected, you can also view the table of contents from its source.

BBCode again:

[url=https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/post/3471785/]Click here[/url] for a table of contents with shorter explanations on why suggestions are rejected, you can also view the table of contents from its [url=https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/post/3471785/source/]source[/url].

Last edited by Zydrolic (Dec. 7, 2023 19:01:11)

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Toru said:

“全てが終わってその後に残るものは…夢と……想い出だけだそれだけだ”

mumu245

Zydrolic wrote:
(#7910)
Could there be a note added to tell people that if they really complain about slow load times, they could just view the list from source? For example, just above general information:
NOTE
If the page load time feels too slow, view the list from source.
BBCode:
[big][b]NOTE[/b][/big]
If the page load time feels too slow, view the list from [url=https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/post/3466932/source/]source[/url].
And as for the Table of Contents, perhaps to this:
Click here for a table of contents with shorter explanations on why suggestions are rejected, you can also view the table of contents from it's source.
BBCode again:
[url=https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/post/3471785/]Click here[/url] for a table of contents with shorter explanations on why suggestions are rejected, you can also view the table of contents from it's [url=https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/post/3471785/source/]source[/url].

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Zydrolic

mumu245 wrote:
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its, not it's

Whoops apologies.

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Toru said:

“全てが終わってその後に残るものは…夢と……想い出だけだそれだけだ”

Sliverus

Subscription-based service for Scratch could be an interesting new addition to the list.

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bobcat0701

Sliverus wrote:
(#7913)
Subscription-based service for Scratch could be an interesting new addition to the list.

Maybe combine that, paid ads, and money blocks into a “Add Monetary features” item on the list.

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bobcat0701 wrote:
(#7914)
Sliverus wrote:
(#7913)
Subscription-based service for Scratch could be an interesting new addition to the list.
Maybe combine that, paid ads, and money blocks into a “Add Monetary features” item on the list.

I think this is a good idea! Mabye also mentioning that the Scratch foundation gets more than enough funding through donations from donors like LEGO.
Not in that exact wording, but something like that.

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RobotChickens wrote:
(#7915)
I think this is a good idea! Mabye also mentioning that the Scratch foundation gets more than enough funding through donations from donors like LEGO.
Not in that exact wording, but something like that.

They were donated once by LEGO for the collaboration if I remember correctly, they do not actively give donations.

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Toru said:

“全てが終わってその後に残るものは…夢と……想い出だけだそれだけだ”

RobotChickens

Zydrolic wrote:
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RobotChickens wrote:
(#7915)
I think this is a good idea! Mabye also mentioning that the Scratch foundation gets more than enough funding through donations from donors like LEGO.
Not in that exact wording, but something like that.
They were donated once by LEGO for the collaboration if I remember correctly, they do not actively give donations.

Yes, it's a one time thing. I believe it was originally for the Scratch Bit, but that project died for some reason. I wonder if finishing development for the scratch bit is rejected…

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RobotChickens wrote:
(#7917)
Zydrolic wrote:
(#7916)
RobotChickens wrote:
(#7915)
I think this is a good idea! Mabye also mentioning that the Scratch foundation gets more than enough funding through donations from donors like LEGO.
Not in that exact wording, but something like that.
They were donated once by LEGO for the collaboration if I remember correctly, they do not actively give donations.
Yes, it's a one time thing. I believe it was originally for the Scratch Bit, but that project died for some reason. I wonder if finishing development for the scratch bit is rejected…

It is marked as no longer active on the media lab website…

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pqsgraham

Sliverus wrote:
Subscription-based service for Scratch could be an interesting new addition to the list.

was about to say exactly the same thing. it was a bit of a hot take/idea but paddle2see did officially reject it and close my topic. however the only reason that I would hesitate adding this to the list is because paddle2see worded his rejection post like it could be something for future consideration, just not in the moment

Paddle2See (for reference) wrote:
While more income would be nice - we do worry a lot about equal access for all kids. Requiring money for Scratch - or more features if you pay - puts lower-income kids at a disadvantage. So, for now anyway, I'm pretty sure we aren't going that direction.

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RobotChickens wrote:
Mabye also mentioning that the Scratch foundation gets more than enough funding through donations from donors like LEGO.

the reason i even suggested this is because (at least to me) it looks like funds are kind of drying up and/or the funds they're getting aren't enough to upgrade servers, hire devs, and fix performance issues etc. my logic is that if scratch had enough money via donors to do these things they would already have been done. even though its technically rejected now i do think that this would be a viable option in the future to keep income flowing (even just to keep the servers ON)

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undeterminstic

this was rejected: https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/728561/

Last edited by undeterminstic (Dec. 8, 2023 19:42:30)

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Sliverus

undeterminstic wrote:
this was rejected: https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/728561/

I don't think it would be worth adding to the list because it's already contrary to the Community Guidelines (welcoming users of all sexual orientations) and to add it to the list, you'd just be restating the Community Guidelines we already know.

pqsgraham wrote:
was about to say exactly the same thing. it was a bit of a hot take/idea but paddle2see did officially reject it and close my topic. however the only reason that I would hesitate adding this to the list is because paddle2see worded his rejection post like it could be something for future consideration, just not in the moment

Interesting. That's a pretty fair argument. However, if it does get implemented, I don't think it would be anytime soon considering what Scratch's priorities are. Maybe in a decade or two, I could see it happening, but definitely not anytime soon. So I think it could be a good idea to add now.

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-Rodri wrote:
I could translate into Spanish if you'd like me too, but it would take me alot of time to finish. I'm a native spanish speaker (latin american)

(also on an unrelated note, are anyone elses bar on the top of replies gone? )

It appears they already have one and it's a sticky. However, the owner hasn't updated it since 2020 and has no sign of updating it in the future. Maybe you should talk to a Scratch Team member about taking it over.

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Also reject implementing ChatGPT by making users bring their own API key which is paid (99% rejected).

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Za-Chary

k7e wrote:
Out of curiosity, does the new filter let you edit the topic? It let me quote the entire thing and post it (which I removed), but I am wondering because the image in 1.11 is hosted on assets with the get image part, and because 7.1 mentions [blue-purple app].

Oops, you ninja'd me! That's why I didn't respond. Thanks for the reminder.

I just tried it out. I don't know much about this new forum filter. But it seems like I am able to edit the topic without any problems.

Sliverus wrote:
Za-Chary wrote:
Thanks for the lesson. Do we think that uncensoring assets.scratch.mit.edu should be added to this list? I'm hesitant to do so if its history is rooted in browser extensions, but maybe I'm just too tired to think rationally at the moment.
I think this is a reasonable idea to add to the list. I think its roots in browser extensions are what Paddle meant when he said assets was never intended to be used that way, anyway. So, you could explain in your entry that it was an unintentional feature which wasn't supposed to exist in the first place, that was being repeatedly abused by spammers.

I'd like to give it one more week or so to see if others suggest it; sorry for the wait. How often has it been suggested lately?

epicdude512 wrote:
I think we should add “Ban certain project type” to the TOLORS, as i have seen multiple people suggest removing types of projects they do not like, but the projects are not breaking the rules.

Either that falls under “Ban certain franchises” (3.3), or it is as ill-defined as “Ban certain franchises.” I'd rather not have 2 such entries on this list.

RobotChickens wrote:
Adding Imjur as an image host just got rejected. Not sure if this is popular enough to get added though.

Thanks. I probably don't need to add this one to the list. We'll just have to keep searching for other image hosts…

Zydrolic wrote:
Could there be a note added to tell people that if they really complain about slow load times, they could just view the list from source?

That's cool, I never knew such a link existed. That seems like it would be helpful to copy/paste BBCode if needed, as opposed to quoting the entire list. That being said, I'm hesitant on your request, because I feel like making a note in the list about the slow load times will just highlight the fact that load times are slow — and then we would get more comments about them.

Sliverus wrote:
Subscription-based service for Scratch could be an interesting new addition to the list.

This makes me think why suggestions like paying to use Scratch or paying for some “premium Scratch” haven't been added to the list previously. They were certainly suggested many times. Were they “obviously rejected”?

Is it worth adding such suggestions to the list (under one entry)? How often are these sorts of ideas suggested? Could someone find a list of examples?

bobcat0701 wrote:
Maybe combine that, paid ads, and money blocks into a “Add Monetary features” item on the list.

I'd have to think carefully about how to merge them, if I do. All the suggestions are subtly different, with small differences yet similar reasons for rejection.

pqsgraham wrote:
the reason i even suggested this is because (at least to me) it looks like funds are kind of drying up and/or the funds they're getting aren't enough to upgrade servers, hire devs, and fix performance issues etc.

Server maintenance, etc. happens all the time. Even 5 years ago, the website was often slower at certain times. I'd argue that it was actually even worse back then — but I haven't been active for a few months so I suppose I can't make an educated decision.

pqsgraham wrote:
my logic is that if scratch had enough money via donors to do these things they would already have been done.

Note that those who want to donate can already donate via the Donate link.

undeterminstic wrote:
this was rejected: https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/728561/

Holy moly I'm not even going to attempt to read that thread.

Sliverus wrote:
undeterminstic wrote:
this was rejected: https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/728561/
I don't think it would be worth adding to the list because it's already contrary to the Community Guidelines (welcoming users of all sexual orientations) and to add it to the list, you'd just be restating the Community Guidelines we already know.

Good point. Let's leave it off the list.

Sliverus wrote:
pqsgraham wrote:
was about to say exactly the same thing. it was a bit of a hot take/idea but paddle2see did officially reject it and close my topic. however the only reason that I would hesitate adding this to the list is because paddle2see worded his rejection post like it could be something for future consideration, just not in the moment
Interesting. That's a pretty fair argument. However, if it does get implemented, I don't think it would be anytime soon considering what Scratch's priorities are. Maybe in a decade or two, I could see it happening, but definitely not anytime soon. So I think it could be a good idea to add now.

The Scratch Team has made it pretty clear in the past that Scratch should be free for everybody. Unless somehow Scratch's core missions and goals change, which I find extremely unlikely, I don't think they would add such a service. As for adding it to the list, refer to my other responses above.

mumu245 wrote:
Also reject implementing ChatGPT by making users bring their own API key which is paid (99% rejected).

I'm not interested in adding any suggestions to this list unless they are 100% rejected (with proof).

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