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alwayspaytaxes
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cookieclickerer33 wrote:

alwayspaytaxes wrote:

cookieclickerer33 wrote:

So here’s what I think splitscreen would look like

snipe
Why not make your own suggestion for this?
Because it’s very closely related to this, I suppose i could but I don’t even support this myself
Wait is this still over LAN or on a single device?
Gamer_Logan819
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alwayspaytaxes wrote:

cookieclickerer33 wrote:

alwayspaytaxes wrote:

cookieclickerer33 wrote:

So here’s what I think splitscreen would look like

snipe
Why not make your own suggestion for this?
Because it’s very closely related to this, I suppose i could but I don’t even support this myself
Wait is this still over LAN or on a single device?
LAN I think
cookieclickerer33
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alwayspaytaxes wrote:

cookieclickerer33 wrote:

alwayspaytaxes wrote:

cookieclickerer33 wrote:

So here’s what I think splitscreen would look like

snipe
Why not make your own suggestion for this?
Because it’s very closely related to this, I suppose i could but I don’t even support this myself
Wait is this still over LAN or on a single device?
So basically 1 pc would act as the host that is hosting all of this, the other pcs would basically act like remote controls for it and the screen itself being shown to the user
As a bonus you would also be able to plug in another mice and control it like that.
Gamer_Logan819
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cookieclickerer33 wrote:

alwayspaytaxes wrote:

cookieclickerer33 wrote:

alwayspaytaxes wrote:

cookieclickerer33 wrote:

So here’s what I think splitscreen would look like

snipe
Why not make your own suggestion for this?
Because it’s very closely related to this, I suppose i could but I don’t even support this myself
Wait is this still over LAN or on a single device?
So basically 1 pc would act as the host that is hosting all of this, the other pcs would basically act like remote controls for it and the screen itself being shown to the user
As a bonus you would also be able to plug in another mice and control it like that.
I’m confused, what?
cookieclickerer33
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Gamer_Logan819 wrote:

cookieclickerer33 wrote:

alwayspaytaxes wrote:

cookieclickerer33 wrote:

alwayspaytaxes wrote:

cookieclickerer33 wrote:

So here’s what I think splitscreen would look like

snipe
Why not make your own suggestion for this?
Because it’s very closely related to this, I suppose i could but I don’t even support this myself
Wait is this still over LAN or on a single device?
So basically 1 pc would act as the host that is hosting all of this, the other pcs would basically act like remote controls for it and the screen itself being shown to the user
As a bonus you would also be able to plug in another mice and control it like that.
I’m confused, what?
It would basically have the other computers remotely controlling the main one

Like (old locomotive) link where you can stream a game to another person and they can play the game using their own keybord as if it was plugged in as a seperate keybord to your pc
Gamer_Logan819
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cookieclickerer33 wrote:

Gamer_Logan819 wrote:

cookieclickerer33 wrote:

alwayspaytaxes wrote:

cookieclickerer33 wrote:

alwayspaytaxes wrote:

cookieclickerer33 wrote:

So here’s what I think splitscreen would look like

snipe
Why not make your own suggestion for this?
Because it’s very closely related to this, I suppose i could but I don’t even support this myself
Wait is this still over LAN or on a single device?
So basically 1 pc would act as the host that is hosting all of this, the other pcs would basically act like remote controls for it and the screen itself being shown to the user
As a bonus you would also be able to plug in another mice and control it like that.
I’m confused, what?
It would basically have the other computers remotely controlling the main one

Like (old locomotive) link where you can stream a game to another person and they can play the game using their own keybord as if it was plugged in as a seperate keybord to your pc
No, this suggestion is about multiple devices editing one project from their own device, no streaming.
cookieclickerer33
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Gamer_Logan819 wrote:

cookieclickerer33 wrote:

Gamer_Logan819 wrote:

cookieclickerer33 wrote:

alwayspaytaxes wrote:

cookieclickerer33 wrote:

alwayspaytaxes wrote:

cookieclickerer33 wrote:

So here’s what I think splitscreen would look like

snipe
Why not make your own suggestion for this?
Because it’s very closely related to this, I suppose i could but I don’t even support this myself
Wait is this still over LAN or on a single device?
So basically 1 pc would act as the host that is hosting all of this, the other pcs would basically act like remote controls for it and the screen itself being shown to the user
As a bonus you would also be able to plug in another mice and control it like that.
I’m confused, what?
It would basically have the other computers remotely controlling the main one

Like (old locomotive) link where you can stream a game to another person and they can play the game using their own keybord as if it was plugged in as a seperate keybord to your pc
No, this suggestion is about multiple devices editing one project from their own device, no streaming.
It would stream OVER LAN and would let you do the exact same thing as this suggestion, just probably be easier to program (except for the split screen part)
Gamer_Logan819
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cookieclickerer33 wrote:

Gamer_Logan819 wrote:

cookieclickerer33 wrote:

Gamer_Logan819 wrote:

cookieclickerer33 wrote:

alwayspaytaxes wrote:

cookieclickerer33 wrote:

alwayspaytaxes wrote:

cookieclickerer33 wrote:

So here’s what I think splitscreen would look like

snipe
Why not make your own suggestion for this?
Because it’s very closely related to this, I suppose i could but I don’t even support this myself
Wait is this still over LAN or on a single device?
So basically 1 pc would act as the host that is hosting all of this, the other pcs would basically act like remote controls for it and the screen itself being shown to the user
As a bonus you would also be able to plug in another mice and control it like that.
I’m confused, what?
It would basically have the other computers remotely controlling the main one

Like (old locomotive) link where you can stream a game to another person and they can play the game using their own keybord as if it was plugged in as a seperate keybord to your pc
No, this suggestion is about multiple devices editing one project from their own device, no streaming.
It would stream OVER LAN and would let you do the exact same thing as this suggestion, just probably be easier to program (except for the split screen part)
That would be too hard to do with anything over 2 people including the host

Last edited by Gamer_Logan819 (Nov. 16, 2023 17:02:06)

cookieclickerer33
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Gamer_Logan819 wrote:

cookieclickerer33 wrote:

Gamer_Logan819 wrote:

cookieclickerer33 wrote:

Gamer_Logan819 wrote:

cookieclickerer33 wrote:

alwayspaytaxes wrote:

cookieclickerer33 wrote:

alwayspaytaxes wrote:

cookieclickerer33 wrote:

So here’s what I think splitscreen would look like

snipe
Why not make your own suggestion for this?
Because it’s very closely related to this, I suppose i could but I don’t even support this myself
Wait is this still over LAN or on a single device?
So basically 1 pc would act as the host that is hosting all of this, the other pcs would basically act like remote controls for it and the screen itself being shown to the user
As a bonus you would also be able to plug in another mice and control it like that.
I’m confused, what?
It would basically have the other computers remotely controlling the main one

Like (old locomotive) link where you can stream a game to another person and they can play the game using their own keybord as if it was plugged in as a seperate keybord to your pc
No, this suggestion is about multiple devices editing one project from their own device, no streaming.
It would stream OVER LAN and would let you do the exact same thing as this suggestion, just probably be easier to program (except for the split screen part)
That would be too hard to to with anything over 2 people including the host
That’s what the things I said would do, make it easier to do that (tbh I actually like the sound of the 4p ui more then the current one, it just helps my adhd brain, I’ll make that it’s own topic when I make a mock-up)

Last edited by cookieclickerer33 (Nov. 16, 2023 17:06:38)

Gamer_Logan819
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cookieclickerer33 wrote:

Gamer_Logan819 wrote:

cookieclickerer33 wrote:

Gamer_Logan819 wrote:

cookieclickerer33 wrote:

Gamer_Logan819 wrote:

cookieclickerer33 wrote:

alwayspaytaxes wrote:

cookieclickerer33 wrote:

alwayspaytaxes wrote:

cookieclickerer33 wrote:

So here’s what I think splitscreen would look like

snipe
Why not make your own suggestion for this?
Because it’s very closely related to this, I suppose i could but I don’t even support this myself
Wait is this still over LAN or on a single device?
So basically 1 pc would act as the host that is hosting all of this, the other pcs would basically act like remote controls for it and the screen itself being shown to the user
As a bonus you would also be able to plug in another mice and control it like that.
I’m confused, what?
It would basically have the other computers remotely controlling the main one

Like (old locomotive) link where you can stream a game to another person and they can play the game using their own keybord as if it was plugged in as a seperate keybord to your pc
No, this suggestion is about multiple devices editing one project from their own device, no streaming.
It would stream OVER LAN and would let you do the exact same thing as this suggestion, just probably be easier to program (except for the split screen part)
That would be too hard to to with anything over 2 people including the host
That’s what the things I said would do, make it easier to do that (tbh I actually like the sound of the 4p ui more then the current one, it just helps my adhd brain, I’ll make that it’s own topic)

If you’re going to make your own suggestion you have to find a way to solve the reason why the st rejected it (like I did)
cookieclickerer33
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I ment a topic to swap between that ui and the current one
MagicCoder330
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This seems like a good suggestion, it wouldn't have any moderation issues I can think of and it would help people collaborate.
blablablahello
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Gamer_Logan819 wrote:

cookieclickerer33 wrote:

I think split screen editing is alot more likely than lan

If you were on LAN you could theoretically hook that up to an actual server and then anyone can acess it. Split screen will limit you to 1 device and if somehow little Timmy with $5 to his name has more than one monitor you could spread each editor across more than 1 monitor

And if there’s asymmetrical split screen (3 players) then the open area would be the view of the stage that anyone can click on

I might make some mock-ups of this as it would require a revised editor layout that also might be beneficial to have on mobile devices due to the similar aspect ratio
Do you think little Timmy, a small, young child with his friends, could learn how to hook it up to an actual server? Let alone even know what a server is?
lil' timmy can't, but
s can
(very easily, too, I personally know atleast 5 people who are capable of the skills needed to hook it up to a server, and the money needed to own or rent a server)

Not that this is a reason to no support, but at the very least this security concern should be discussed
Elijah999999
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First of all, collaboration isn't rejected. What is rejected is users working on a project at the same time over separate devices. Yes, only allowing people in the same building as each other would help with moderation concerns, but the technical aspects of this and the cost is still just as much of a concern.
marcopoIo
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this is actully a pretty cool idea that I support
alwayspaytaxes
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cookieclickerer33 wrote:

alwayspaytaxes wrote:

cookieclickerer33 wrote:

alwayspaytaxes wrote:

cookieclickerer33 wrote:

So here’s what I think splitscreen would look like

snipe
Why not make your own suggestion for this?
Because it’s very closely related to this, I suppose i could but I don’t even support this myself
Wait is this still over LAN or on a single device?
So basically 1 pc would act as the host that is hosting all of this, the other pcs would basically act like remote controls for it and the screen itself being shown to the user
As a bonus you would also be able to plug in another mice and control it like that.
I'd bet regular layman people that want to collab over school computers would be confused

What if you have every PC host a connection that every other PC can listen to? Like a peer-to-peer network? Actually no this sucks

Maybe it could be like the Live Share extension for VSCode, where one PC makes a share link which can be given to other people to join into the same project?

Last edited by alwayspaytaxes (Nov. 17, 2023 00:46:37)

WindowsAdmin
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alwayspaytaxes wrote:

(#36)

cookieclickerer33 wrote:

alwayspaytaxes wrote:

cookieclickerer33 wrote:

alwayspaytaxes wrote:

cookieclickerer33 wrote:

So here’s what I think splitscreen would look like

snipe
Why not make your own suggestion for this?
Because it’s very closely related to this, I suppose i could but I don’t even support this myself
Wait is this still over LAN or on a single device?
So basically 1 pc would act as the host that is hosting all of this, the other pcs would basically act like remote controls for it and the screen itself being shown to the user
As a bonus you would also be able to plug in another mice and control it like that.
I'd bet regular layman people that want to collab over school computers would be confused

What if you have every PC host a connection that every other PC can listen to? Like a peer-to-peer network? Actually no this sucks

Maybe it could be like the Live Share extension for VSCode, where one PC makes a share link which can be given to other people to join into the same project?
Scratch makes everything simple. They will probably know how to make that simple
Gamer_Logan819
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I'm going to let this topic be for a little bit and let everybody get their opinions out until i make major changes to the suggestion
GlitchedThrough
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It looks like a bunch of browsers support LAN, but Brave doesn’t, which i believe is popular among Scratchers.
Perhaps it could be supported on the offline editor as well, which would theoretically just require an open port.
undeterminstic
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What the Heck is Brave?

GlitchedThrough wrote:

It looks like a bunch of browsers support LAN, but Brave doesn’t, which i believe is popular among Scratchers.
Perhaps it could be supported on the offline editor as well, which would theoretically just require an open port.

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