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PPPDUD
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Whenever the filter is checking a comment in a non-English language, translate it to English first

^^ Doing this will help improve the moderation for people who don't know English, and will help make maintaining the filter much easier for the Scratch Team.
cookieclickerer33
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Whenever the filter is checking a comment in a non-English language, translate it to English first

Iirc Google translate deliberately tries to not translate things into swears wherever possible

Last edited by cookieclickerer33 (Oct. 27, 2023 17:58:15)

PPPDUD
Scratcher
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Whenever the filter is checking a comment in a non-English language, translate it to English first

cookieclickerer33 wrote:

Iirc Google translate deliberately tries to not translate things into swears wherever possible
Then they could use something like Yandex translate, which is much more trustworthy because:
- if anyone tries to hack them in their home country (Russia), then the hacker has broken the local laws
- not spyware
- at least it's not stealing tanks like a Ukrainian military officer
- previously the default translation service that was supplied by App Inventor
yadayadayadagoodbye
Scratcher
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Whenever the filter is checking a comment in a non-English language, translate it to English first

PPPDUD wrote:

cookieclickerer33 wrote:

Iirc Google translate deliberately tries to not translate things into swears wherever possible
Then they could use something like Yandex translate, which is much more trustworthy because:
- if anyone tries to hack them in their home country (Russia), then the hacker has broken the local laws
- not spyware
- at least it's not stealing tanks like a Ukrainian military officer
- previously the default translation service that was supplied by App Inventor
however, many swear words in other languages, when translated to english, makes no sense, because its the context behind the words and not the words themselves that are offensive (for example, the chinese swear “your mom's” sounds innocent, but indicateds somethings pretty bad)
ajskateboarder
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Whenever the filter is checking a comment in a non-English language, translate it to English first

PPPDUD wrote:

cookieclickerer33 wrote:

Iirc Google translate deliberately tries to not translate things into swears wherever possible
Then they could use something like Yandex translate, which is much more trustworthy because:
- if anyone tries to hack them in their home country (Russia), then the hacker has broken the local laws
- not spyware
- at least it's not stealing tanks like a Ukrainian military officer
- previously the default translation service that was supplied by App Inventor
None of these are good reasons why the filter should use Yandex, but okay
roofogato
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Whenever the filter is checking a comment in a non-English language, translate it to English first

PPPDUD wrote:

cookieclickerer33 wrote:

Iirc Google translate deliberately tries to not translate things into swears wherever possible
Then they could use something like Yandex translate, which is much more trustworthy because:
- if anyone tries to hack them in their home country (Russia), then the hacker has broken the local laws
- not spyware
- at least it's not stealing tanks like a Ukrainian military officer
- previously the default translation service that was supplied by App Inventor

Yandex translation is also notoriously incorrect in translating between latin to non lation languages
-Rodri
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Whenever the filter is checking a comment in a non-English language, translate it to English first

(Latin American Spanish speaker here btw)

Swears in other languages mostly don't have a direct translation to English.


For example, patu a Spanish swear word, directly translates to the b|word.

But, penchi maerdi, another Spanish swear word, directly translates to “I pinched pee”, but roughly means the f|word.

The swears' vowels are switched around for obvious reasons


A translator would do a good job for the first one (maybe), but a HORRIBLE job for the second example. There is no perfect translator sadly, so this would be very hard to do.

Last edited by -Rodri (Oct. 28, 2023 01:30:39)

dhuls
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Whenever the filter is checking a comment in a non-English language, translate it to English first

PPPDUD wrote:

(#3)
if anyone tries to hack them in their home country (Russia), then the hacker has broken the local laws
Yes because hacking is legal in every other country

PPPDUD wrote:

(#3)
- not spyware
Oh really?

PPPDUD wrote:

(#3)
- at least it's not stealing tanks like a Ukrainian military officer
This is relevant, how?
-Rodri
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Whenever the filter is checking a comment in a non-English language, translate it to English first

bump because idk

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