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zaid1442011
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Linux

MagicCrayon9342 wrote:

ScratchcatandGobo wrote:

MacOS is a prison
As a person who likes owning my computer and having control over the OS that runs on it I agree!
You can install windows on a Mac using bootcamp on intel macs
zaid1442011
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Linux

MagicCrayon9342 wrote:

ajskateboarder wrote:

zaid1442011 wrote:

The problem of Linux is that it doesn’t have wide application support, which is why the percentage is low, which is why it doesn’t have wide application support, which is why the percentage is low, and vise versa.
What kind of stuff would you want to do on Linux?

For general document editing, there is LibreOffice and OpenOffice
For gaming, there is Proton and WINE
For programming, there is massive support for code editors, compilers, and interpreters
Exactly. There's this thing called “options”. You don't have to use the proprietary software made by big corporations.
If I ended up on a computer running Windows, I would use Linux. I am talking about people who want to keep using software made by big corporations. BTW, the software I use has Linux support (cause I can use it online), and I am happy to use alternatives for some software like Safari. ( I can actually make Firefox look like Safari, and also Linux entirely.) I was talking about people thinking that Chrome is the only browser that exists. (Chrome is supported in Linux anyway(but I won’t use it.).)
applejuiceproduc
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Linux

zaid1442011 wrote:

MagicCrayon9342 wrote:

ajskateboarder wrote:

zaid1442011 wrote:

The problem of Linux is that it doesn’t have wide application support, which is why the percentage is low, which is why it doesn’t have wide application support, which is why the percentage is low, and vise versa.
What kind of stuff would you want to do on Linux?

For general document editing, there is LibreOffice and OpenOffice
For gaming, there is Proton and WINE
For programming, there is massive support for code editors, compilers, and interpreters
Exactly. There's this thing called “options”. You don't have to use the proprietary software made by big corporations.
If I ended up on a computer running Windows, I would use Linux. I am talking about people who want to keep using software made by big corporations. BTW, the software I use has Linux support (cause I can use it online), and I am happy to use alternatives for some software like Safari. ( I can actually make Firefox look like Safari, and also Linux entirely.) I was talking about people thinking that Chrome is the only browser that exists. (Chrome is supported in Linux anyway(but I won’t use it.).)
you use safari? I just use chrome on my mac and if I was gonna use something else it would be firefox.
zaid1442011
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Linux

applejuiceproduc wrote:

zaid1442011 wrote:

MagicCrayon9342 wrote:

ajskateboarder wrote:

zaid1442011 wrote:

The problem of Linux is that it doesn’t have wide application support, which is why the percentage is low, which is why it doesn’t have wide application support, which is why the percentage is low, and vise versa.
What kind of stuff would you want to do on Linux?

For general document editing, there is LibreOffice and OpenOffice
For gaming, there is Proton and WINE
For programming, there is massive support for code editors, compilers, and interpreters
Exactly. There's this thing called “options”. You don't have to use the proprietary software made by big corporations.
If I ended up on a computer running Windows, I would use Linux. I am talking about people who want to keep using software made by big corporations. BTW, the software I use has Linux support (cause I can use it online), and I am happy to use alternatives for some software like Safari. ( I can actually make Firefox look like Safari, and also Linux entirely.) I was talking about people thinking that Chrome is the only browser that exists. (Chrome is supported in Linux anyway(but I won’t use it.).)
you use safari? I just use chrome on my mac and if I was gonna use something else it would be firefox.
Yes. Because, my mom backs up her photos on the laptop, and my brother downloading weird stuff and I use like 1 GB on the laptop (I store most stuff on iCloud). So there are 20 GB left on the laptop which my mom will use some of it to “backup” photos on the laptop. And my father has a PC for himself. And I expect getting a new Mac soon. So my mom installed Chrome before I first used the laptop. So I used it for Dev tools. (I didn’t know at the time that Safari had this option hidden in Settings) Then I stopped using Chrome, but I only use it for Scratch for….. Extensions.
zaid1442011
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500+ posts

Linux

ajskateboarder wrote:

zaid1442011 wrote:

The problem of Linux is that it doesn’t have wide application support, which is why the percentage is low, which is why it doesn’t have wide application support, which is why the percentage is low, and vise versa.
What kind of stuff would you want to do on Linux?

For general document editing, there is LibreOffice and OpenOffice
For gaming, there is Proton and WINE
For programming, there is massive support for code editors, compilers, and interpreters
I know I was just talking about people who think there are no alternatives to the service to use.

I found that Steam supports Linux. What is Proton and WINE.
And the software I use has Linux support anyway, but I can’t install anything on 20GB remaining laptop. Not even Linux itself.
ScratchcatandGobo
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1000+ posts

Linux

zaid1442011 wrote:

ajskateboarder wrote:

zaid1442011 wrote:

The problem of Linux is that it doesn’t have wide application support, which is why the percentage is low, which is why it doesn’t have wide application support, which is why the percentage is low, and vise versa.
What kind of stuff would you want to do on Linux?

For general document editing, there is LibreOffice and OpenOffice
For gaming, there is Proton and WINE
For programming, there is massive support for code editors, compilers, and interpreters
I know I was just talking about people who think there are no alternatives to the service to use.

I found that Steam supports Linux. What is Proton and WINE.
And the software I use has Linux support anyway, but I can’t install anything on 20GB remaining laptop. Not even Linux itself.
Wine is a program that allows you to run Windows programs on Linux. Proton does the same, but for games.
ScratchcatandGobo
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I want to make a simple Linux distro. What should I base it off? (I want a basic non-gui Linux distro that DOESN'T NEED ETHERNET. My parents hate ethernet for some reason.)
applejuiceproduc
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ScratchcatandGobo wrote:

I want to make a simple Linux distro. What should I base it off? (I want a basic non-gui Linux distro that DOESN'T NEED ETHERNET. My parents hate ethernet for some reason.)
arch because archiso and you can make it work pretty easily with wifi

That's if you want to make an iso with it, if you don't then it really doesn't matter, although arch is pretty barebones.
PPPDUD
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ScratchcatandGobo wrote:

I want to make a simple Linux distro. What should I base it off? (I want a basic non-gui Linux distro that DOESN'T NEED ETHERNET. My parents hate ethernet for some reason.)
Perhaps Arch. It's a simple distro without a GUI that has a package manager and terminal and login screen built in.
ScratchcatandGobo
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1000+ posts

Linux

I just installed arch with XFCE
ajskateboarder
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Linux

PPPDUD wrote:

ScratchcatandGobo wrote:

I want to make a simple Linux distro. What should I base it off? (I want a basic non-gui Linux distro that DOESN'T NEED ETHERNET. My parents hate ethernet for some reason.)
Perhaps Arch. It's a simple distro without a GUI that has a package manager and terminal and login screen built in.
Don't most, if not all Linux distros have login screens?
PPPDUD
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ajskateboarder wrote:

PPPDUD wrote:

ScratchcatandGobo wrote:

I want to make a simple Linux distro. What should I base it off? (I want a basic non-gui Linux distro that DOESN'T NEED ETHERNET. My parents hate ethernet for some reason.)
Perhaps Arch. It's a simple distro without a GUI that has a package manager and terminal and login screen built in.
Don't most, if not all Linux distros have login screens?
Not all of them.
MagicCrayon9342
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PPPDUD wrote:

ajskateboarder wrote:

PPPDUD wrote:

ScratchcatandGobo wrote:

I want to make a simple Linux distro. What should I base it off? (I want a basic non-gui Linux distro that DOESN'T NEED ETHERNET. My parents hate ethernet for some reason.)
Perhaps Arch. It's a simple distro without a GUI that has a package manager and terminal and login screen built in.
Don't most, if not all Linux distros have login screens?
Not all of them.
All Linux distributions TTYs. These present a login screen. Also, Arch only doesn't have a GUI if the user hasn't installed one. It doesn't have a standard out of the box configuration, its how the user sets it up.

Last edited by MagicCrayon9342 (Aug. 19, 2023 23:25:15)

sf97ahgf
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Linux

MagicCrayon9342 wrote:

PPPDUD wrote:

ajskateboarder wrote:

PPPDUD wrote:

ScratchcatandGobo wrote:

I want to make a simple Linux distro. What should I base it off? (I want a basic non-gui Linux distro that DOESN'T NEED ETHERNET. My parents hate ethernet for some reason.)
Perhaps Arch. It's a simple distro without a GUI that has a package manager and terminal and login screen built in.
Don't most, if not all Linux distros have login screens?
Not all of them.
All Linux distributions TTYs. These present a login screen. Also, Arch only doesn't have a GUI if the user hasn't installed one. It doesn't have a standard out of the box configuration, its how the user sets it up.
Technically no, as in rare cases some distros set /bin/sh as the init.
TheSecondGilbert
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Linux

We all know what things we like on Linux (that's why we like using them, aren't we?)

But what are the things you don't like about Linux? (and other OSes other than the Big Two, I guess)
__Falcon-Games__
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1000+ posts

Linux

the best os.

TheSecondGilbert wrote:

We all know what things we like on Linux (that's why we like using them, aren't we?)

But what are the things you don't like about Linux? (and other OSes other than the Big Two, I guess)
It could be more user-friendly for non-technical people.

Last edited by __Falcon-Games__ (Aug. 20, 2023 11:55:22)

-ElectronicArts-
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__Falcon-Games__ wrote:

the best os.

TheSecondGilbert wrote:

We all know what things we like on Linux (that's why we like using them, aren't we?)

But what are the things you don't like about Linux? (and other OSes other than the Big Two, I guess)
It could be more user-friendly for non-technical people.
Yeah like arch. but Ubuntu is user-friendly.
__Falcon-Games__
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1000+ posts

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-ElectronicArts- wrote:

__Falcon-Games__ wrote:

the best os.

TheSecondGilbert wrote:

We all know what things we like on Linux (that's why we like using them, aren't we?)

But what are the things you don't like about Linux? (and other OSes other than the Big Two, I guess)
It could be more user-friendly for non-technical people.
Yeah like arch. but Ubuntu is user-friendly.
By the way I use MacOS but if my parents would get me Linux then I would switch to that. I have gotten experience with Unix because of using MacOS.

Last edited by __Falcon-Games__ (Aug. 20, 2023 13:58:45)

zaid1442011
Scratcher
500+ posts

Linux

__Falcon-Games__ wrote:

-ElectronicArts- wrote:

__Falcon-Games__ wrote:

the best os.

TheSecondGilbert wrote:

We all know what things we like on Linux (that's why we like using them, aren't we?)

But what are the things you don't like about Linux? (and other OSes other than the Big Two, I guess)
It could be more user-friendly for non-technical people.
Yeah like arch. but Ubuntu is user-friendly.
By the way I use MacOS but if my parents would get me Linux then I would switch to that. I have gotten experience with Unix because of using MacOS.
You can use a VM or search YouTube for a tutorial on installing Linux for Macs.
davidtheplatform
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This is more of a gnome thing but windows are grouped together in the alt-tab menu. MacOS also does this and its stupid.
Also USB headphones don't work for some reason. Interestingly on windows the 8mm jack doesn't work but it does in linux

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