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TeenySpoon
Scratcher
500+ posts

scratch should add 3d pfp

AmirGaming1106 wrote:

scratch has ai like the bad word filter but like3d pfp i think they should add
Did you read my post? (It's okay if you didn't see it, it kinda got drowned out)
https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/post/7415797/
ashrain1981
Scratcher
6 posts

scratch should add 3d pfp

TeenySpoon wrote:

AmirGaming1106 wrote:

ashrain1981 wrote:

TeenySpoon wrote:

-snip-
Yeah but Ai is growing fast if scratch could some how have an Ai service to shade or something for the person I think that would be possible.
so if it happens then all we need is a new scratch update to get glitches out
AI is really expensive; you need a lot of servers and Scratch's server space is mostly dedicated to storing projects and everything.

Also, 3D in Scratch is rejected as per TOLORS

The Official List of Rejected Suggestions wrote:

1.7 3D Scratch

This block, and others, could be used with a z-axis in the project stage to make it easier to create 3D projects. But, Scratch is a language that is designed to be as easy as possible for beginners to learn. Adding 3D features would make the language more difficult for beginners to understand, and a 3D engine is not exactly the purpose of Scratch. This suggestion also includes the possibility for virtual-reality features in Scratch, or “Scratch VR.” A lot of the same difficulties come up.

For those who are interested, it may be worth checking out Beetle Blocks or CreatiCode. They are block-based programming languages similar to the Scratch editor, but with 3D features. There is another similar program to Scratch that contains block programming with 3D features, called Starlogo TNG. You can also try Alice; it is not exactly like Scratch, but has some similar features.

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Yes but Remember scratch is from the MIT and could easily afford a little Ai and this could easily make scratch better for a lot of people. Like such animators who spend days working on projects.
AmirGaming1106
Scratcher
100+ posts

scratch should add 3d pfp

ashrain1981 wrote:

TeenySpoon wrote:

AmirGaming1106 wrote:

ashrain1981 wrote:

TeenySpoon wrote:

-snip-
Yeah but Ai is growing fast if scratch could some how have an Ai service to shade or something for the person I think that would be possible.
so if it happens then all we need is a new scratch update to get glitches out
AI is really expensive; you need a lot of servers and Scratch's server space is mostly dedicated to storing projects and everything.

Also, 3D in Scratch is rejected as per TOLORS

The Official List of Rejected Suggestions wrote:

1.7 3D Scratch

This block, and others, could be used with a z-axis in the project stage to make it easier to create 3D projects. But, Scratch is a language that is designed to be as easy as possible for beginners to learn. Adding 3D features would make the language more difficult for beginners to understand, and a 3D engine is not exactly the purpose of Scratch. This suggestion also includes the possibility for virtual-reality features in Scratch, or “Scratch VR.” A lot of the same difficulties come up.

For those who are interested, it may be worth checking out Beetle Blocks or CreatiCode. They are block-based programming languages similar to the Scratch editor, but with 3D features. There is another similar program to Scratch that contains block programming with 3D features, called Starlogo TNG. You can also try Alice; it is not exactly like Scratch, but has some similar features.

go to x: () y: () z: () :: motion 
View source
Yes but Remember scratch is from the MIT and could easily afford a little Ai and this could easily make scratch better for a lot of people. Like such animators who spend days working on projects.
yeah
scratchcode1_2_3
Scratcher
1000+ posts

scratch should add 3d pfp

ashrain1981 wrote:

(#23)
Yes but Remember scratch is from the MIT and could easily afford a little Ai and this could easily make scratch better for a lot of people. Like such animators who spend days working on projects.
But it's still rejected and scratch relies only on donations since they are non-profit. It is not that easy to just *boop* add a WHOLE AI system to scratch just like that.
AmirGaming1106
Scratcher
100+ posts

scratch should add 3d pfp

scratchcode1_2_3 wrote:

ashrain1981 wrote:

(#23)
Yes but Remember scratch is from the MIT and could easily afford a little Ai and this could easily make scratch better for a lot of people. Like such animators who spend days working on projects.
But it's still rejected and scratch relies only on donations since they are non-profit. It is not that easy to just *boop* add a WHOLE AI system to scratch just like that.
they might have to just make their own ai system if their adding it
ashrain1981
Scratcher
6 posts

scratch should add 3d pfp

scratchcode1_2_3 wrote:

ashrain1981 wrote:

(#23)
Yes but Remember scratch is from the MIT and could easily afford a little Ai and this could easily make scratch better for a lot of people. Like such animators who spend days working on projects.
But it's still rejected and scratch relies only on donations since they are non-profit. It is not that easy to just *boop* add a WHOLE AI system to scratch just like that.
True.
scratchcode1_2_3
Scratcher
1000+ posts

scratch should add 3d pfp

AmirGaming1106 wrote:

(#26)

scratchcode1_2_3 wrote:

ashrain1981 wrote:

(#23)
Yes but Remember scratch is from the MIT and could easily afford a little Ai and this could easily make scratch better for a lot of people. Like such animators who spend days working on projects.
But it's still rejected and scratch relies only on donations since they are non-profit. It is not that easy to just *boop* add a WHOLE AI system to scratch just like that.
they might have to just make their own ai system if their adding it
Still, it's not that easy. It takes effort, time, and money. Development is hard, and again, scratch is non-profit.

AmirGaming1106
Scratcher
100+ posts

scratch should add 3d pfp

scratchcode1_2_3 wrote:

AmirGaming1106 wrote:

(#26)

scratchcode1_2_3 wrote:

ashrain1981 wrote:

(#23)
Yes but Remember scratch is from the MIT and could easily afford a little Ai and this could easily make scratch better for a lot of people. Like such animators who spend days working on projects.
But it's still rejected and scratch relies only on donations since they are non-profit. It is not that easy to just *boop* add a WHOLE AI system to scratch just like that.
they might have to just make their own ai system if their adding it
Still, it's not that easy. It takes effort, time, and money. Development is hard, and again, scratch is non-profit.


scratch is like a programing language maybe ai can help
Zydrolic
Scratcher
1000+ posts

scratch should add 3d pfp

AmirGaming1106 wrote:

(#29)
scratch is like a programing language maybe ai can help
Coding a languange doesnt mean you can code AI.
Other AI isn't as smart as people make it out to be.

EDIT: Also nonprofit means that they can only gain money through donations, funding, merchandise and a few bit more.
If they act otherwise and do something profitable, they become dust, quite literally.

Last edited by Zydrolic (July 31, 2023 22:51:38)

PaperMarioFan2022
Scratcher
1000+ posts

scratch should add 3d pfp

I’m not sure if a 3D profile picture maker would benefit anything in my opinion, respectfully.
The_Game_
Scratcher
1000+ posts

scratch should add 3d pfp

I lost braincells reading this
So, are you suggesting, like, 3D modelling? If so as stated above that is rejected. And also AI isn't easy or cheap or advanced enough to warrant adding it to Scratch.
AmirGaming1106
Scratcher
100+ posts

scratch should add 3d pfp

The_Game_ wrote:

I lost braincells reading this
So, are you suggesting, like, 3D modelling? If so as stated above that is rejected. And also AI isn't easy or cheap or advanced enough to warrant adding it to Scratch.
blender is free you can create an image with ai for free all you gotta do is look something up then it should say image creator
AmirGaming1106
Scratcher
100+ posts

scratch should add 3d pfp

blender is free

Last edited by AmirGaming1106 (Aug. 1, 2023 00:27:49)

TeenySpoon
Scratcher
500+ posts

scratch should add 3d pfp

AmirGaming1106 wrote:

The_Game_ wrote:

I lost braincells reading this
So, are you suggesting, like, 3D modelling? If so as stated above that is rejected. And also AI isn't easy or cheap or advanced enough to warrant adding it to Scratch.
blender is free you can create an image with ai for free all you gotta do is look something up then it should say image creator
Blender is free, but it is a huge file. You have to download the program, whereas Scratch is all web-based.
Also as many people have already pointed out, 3D is rejected.

You can create an AI image for free, but what if it generates an inappropriate picture? Scratch does not have the resources to create it's own AI, and that is not their goal, so it won't be implemented soon.
ajskateboarder
Scratcher
1000+ posts

scratch should add 3d pfp

ashrain1981 wrote:

TeenySpoon wrote:

ashrain1981 wrote:

I mean a blender on scratch for not just pfp would be mildly useful specially for animators like @grayson for example but that's out of topic at this point.
Scratch is web-based, there's no way it would be able to have full-blown Blender capabilities.
Yeah but Ai is growing fast if scratch could some how have an Ai service to shade or something for the person I think that would be possible.
How does AI connect to making 3D PFPs?? Hosting an AI would probably be even more expensive than a 3D modelling tool

And before you say it, MIT is not the primary owner of Scratch anymore, so they can't rely on their servers
AmirGaming1106
Scratcher
100+ posts

scratch should add 3d pfp

ajskateboarder wrote:

ashrain1981 wrote:

TeenySpoon wrote:

ashrain1981 wrote:

I mean a blender on scratch for not just pfp would be mildly useful specially for animators like @grayson for example but that's out of topic at this point.
Scratch is web-based, there's no way it would be able to have full-blown Blender capabilities.
Yeah but Ai is growing fast if scratch could some how have an Ai service to shade or something for the person I think that would be possible.
How does AI connect to making 3D PFPs?? Hosting an AI would probably be even more expensive than a 3D modelling tool

And before you say it, MIT is not the primary owner of Scratch anymore, so they can't rely on their servers
screenshots and design

Last edited by AmirGaming1106 (Aug. 1, 2023 11:52:15)

AmirGaming1106
Scratcher
100+ posts

scratch should add 3d pfp

AmirGaming1106 wrote:

ajskateboarder wrote:

ashrain1981 wrote:

TeenySpoon wrote:

ashrain1981 wrote:

I mean a blender on scratch for not just pfp would be mildly useful specially for animators like @grayson for example but that's out of topic at this point.
Scratch is web-based, there's no way it would be able to have full-blown Blender capabilities.
Yeah but Ai is growing fast if scratch could some how have an Ai service to shade or something for the person I think that would be possible.
How does AI connect to making 3D PFPs?? Hosting an AI would probably be even more expensive than a 3D modelling tool

And before you say it, MIT is not the primary owner of Scratch anymore, so they can't rely on their servers
screenshots and design
and work
Crispydogs101
Scratcher
1000+ posts

scratch should add 3d pfp

Why not just take a photo of something 3d.
AmirGaming1106
Scratcher
100+ posts

scratch should add 3d pfp

Crispydogs101 wrote:

Why not just take a photo of something 3d.
what if you wanamake your own
Crispydogs101
Scratcher
1000+ posts

scratch should add 3d pfp

AmirGaming1106 wrote:

Crispydogs101 wrote:

Why not just take a photo of something 3d.
what if you wanamake your own
Then make it in a 3d making site and take a picture of it.

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