1. Can you please be a little less aggressive with the title? “Java is better then Python” is more benign than “JAVA is better then PYTHON”.
   

2. The language is optimized for speed and has excellent support for multithreading, which allows it to handle multiple tasks simultaneously without compromising performance.

   If I want to optimize speed I'd rather compile it native instead of to JVM. Also, have you seen how complex multi-threading is in Java?
   

WojtekGame wrote:

(#6)
i don't agree.

Python: 1
JavaScript: Ameturs

Redstone1080 wrote:

WojtekGame wrote:

(#6)
i don't agree.

Python: 1
JavaScript: Ameturs

java ≠ javascript

WojtekGame wrote:

Redstone1080 wrote:

WojtekGame wrote:

(#6)
i don't agree.

Python: 1
JavaScript: Ameturs

java ≠ javascript

I know, but JS can also be ran everywhere if it has an browser and has JS activated (because they still have that option -_-)

FlameEater9000 wrote:

Java is a superior language when it comes to performance and scalability.

It is an ideal language for developing large-scale applications and enterprise-level software.

The language is optimized for speed and has excellent support for multithreading, which allows it to handle multiple tasks simultaneously without compromising performance.

With its robust security features, Java is also a more secure language than Python, making it an excellent choice for developing applications that require high levels of security.

Java is also a better choice for developing applications that require cross-platform compatibility. It has excellent support for various operating systems, making it easy to develop applications that can run on different platforms.

Python, on the other hand, can be difficult to port to different operating systems, which can limit its usefulness in certain situations.

Java also has a massive community of developers, making it easy to find resources, libraries, and tools to help you develop your applications.

It has a robust set of development tools, including the popular IntelliJ IDEA

and Eclipse IDEs

, making it easy to write, debug, and deploy Java applications.

Python also has a large community of developers, but it is more focused on data science and machine learning applications.

Thanks to ChatGPT (GPT 3.5)

That's why Java is way better then Python

bigspeedfpv wrote:

WojtekGame wrote:

Redstone1080 wrote:

WojtekGame wrote:

(#6)
i don't agree.

Python: 1
JavaScript: Ameturs

java ≠ javascript

I know, but JS can also be ran everywhere if it has an browser and has JS activated (because they still have that option -_-)

this debate doesn't involve js lol, js is way way way different

anyway, java's still an industry standard. there's a reason you won't find big corporations writing their backends in python

ScratchCatHELLO wrote:

rust is usually simpler, safer, faster, and more featureful.

The language is optimized for speed and has excellent support for multithreading, which allows it to handle multiple tasks simultaneously without compromising performance.

this is not unique. more modern languages (eg. rust) exist with the same featureset.

regardless, rust is also secure while being a decent language at the same time.

python has more professional developers than java.

python is more modern and has all of these things

doesn’t everyone hate eclipse?

it’s not hard to debug python

ehh, not really? those are common, but people have done pretty much everything in python. it’s incredibly versitile.

Thanks to ChatGPT (GPT 3.5)

no, machine learning has been a major draw of python for a long time.

your arguments are mostly either incorrect, not always important, or more true of other languages like rust.

ScratchCatHELLO wrote:

proof? I don’t think java is even a common backend.

bigspeedfpv wrote:

ScratchCatHELLO wrote:

proof? I don’t think java is even a common backend.

this image is clearly not for backend?? do you really thing html/css is used on the backend? this is a super weird picture to use to argue that java's not popular, because it's only a subset of devs.

looks like stackoverflow? their surveys tend to follow hype trends - just look at the graphs for UI frameworks. everything starts out high and slowly drops off in their charts.
in their most recent survey, svelte has a 75% “love” rate while angular's at 21%. guess which one's more widely used?
source https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2022/#section-most-loved-dreaded-and-wanted-web-frameworks-and-technologies

ChatGPT wrote:

While everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I must respectfully disagree with your claim that Java is “better” than Python. Here are a few reasons why:

Firstly, when it comes to ease of use and readability, Python is often considered to be a much simpler language than Java. Python's syntax is designed to be intuitive and easy to understand, which can make it quicker to write and debug code. In contrast, Java's syntax can be more complex, which can make it more difficult for beginners to learn.

Secondly, Python is often considered to be a more versatile language than Java. While Java is primarily used for developing large-scale applications, Python can be used for a wide variety of tasks, including web development, data analysis, machine learning, scientific computing, and more. Python's flexibility and ease of use make it an ideal language for beginners, as well as more experienced programmers who need to quickly prototype and test their ideas.

Thirdly, while it is true that Java is optimized for performance and scalability, Python is not necessarily slower. In fact, Python's standard library includes a number of modules and libraries that are specifically designed for performance optimization, such as NumPy and SciPy. Additionally, Python's popularity has led to the development of a number of high-performance implementations, such as PyPy and Cython, which can be used to improve Python's speed and efficiency.

Finally, while it is true that Java has excellent cross-platform compatibility, Python is also designed to be portable and platform-independent. Python code can be run on a wide variety of platforms, including Windows, macOS, Linux, and more. Additionally, Python has excellent support for interacting with other languages and platforms, which can make it an ideal choice for integrating with existing systems and technologies.

NFlex23 wrote:

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ChatGPT wrote:

While everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I must respectfully disagree with your claim that Java is “better” than Python.
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bigspeedfpv wrote:

ScratchCatHELLO wrote:

rust is usually simpler, safer, faster, and more featureful.

not necessarily - rust doesn't have gc pauses (java doesn't either with some configuration), but i'd bet you'd have to hand-optimize rust pretty far to get it to beat a warmed-up JVM. do you have the expertise to do that? i know i don't.

The language is optimized for speed and has excellent support for multithreading, which allows it to handle multiple tasks simultaneously without compromising performance.

this is not unique. more modern languages (eg. rust) exist with the same featureset.

rust's async ecosystem is very fragmented. async-std? tokio? why is making async components so different from using them?

regardless, rust is also secure while being a decent language at the same time.

this is literally you just saying rust is decent lol
does rust have security policies? cryptographically signed binaries? binary sandboxing?

python is more modern and has all of these things

then why isn't intellij written in python

it’s not hard to debug python

depends on what you're doing

ehh, not really? those are common, but people have done pretty much everything in python. it’s incredibly versitile.

okay find me an enterprise server written in python

Thanks to ChatGPT (GPT 3.5)

no, machine learning has been a major draw of python for a long time.

you just argued with an AI written article lol

your arguments are mostly either incorrect, not always important, or more true of other languages like rust.

rust doesn't have nearly as much tooling or enterprise support as Java.

ever tried using a debugger on a rust program?

not to mention the fact that the package ecosystem is HORRENDOUS still.

there's not really a rust equivalent of something like spring boot, for example.

rust is still a baby language in terms of ecosystem, imo. it'll be a while before it can replace java - it's definitely a good language, as services like cloudflare and the blurple app use it, but it's not nearly as easy to use as something like java

ScratchCatHELLO wrote:

ever tried using a debugger on a rust program?

I don’t use debuggers.

there's not really a rust equivalent of something like spring boot, for example.

I can’t tell what spring is even for, so I can’t help you there.

rust is still a baby language in terms of ecosystem, imo. it'll be a while before it can replace java - it's definitely a good language, as services like cloudflare and the blurple app use it, but it's not nearly as easy to use as something like java

I think this part is actually just a matter of opinion