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GreenSunGuardian
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A better way to prevent project copying, without preventing remixes

+1
MrKyurem
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A better way to prevent project copying, without preventing remixes

What my friend JamesOuO has done to try and prevent this is he's added a script so that if me or him see a project which is a carbon copy of the original creation, we can stop it from working.

Anyway, +1
xlk
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A better way to prevent project copying, without preventing remixes

MrKyurem wrote:

What my friend JamesOuO has done to try and prevent this is he's added a script so that if me or him see a project which is a carbon copy of the original creation, we can stop it from working.

Anyway, +1
how?….
MrKyurem
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A better way to prevent project copying, without preventing remixes

xlk wrote:

MrKyurem wrote:

What my friend JamesOuO has done to try and prevent this is he's added a script so that if me or him see a project which is a carbon copy of the original creation, we can stop it from working.

Anyway, +1
how?….

Added a hidden script which is hard to find so if me or him press A, B and C at the same time, all the scripts stop upon loading, using a variable.
SuperNicky
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A better way to prevent project copying, without preventing remixes

+1 My browser / operating system: Windows 7, Chrome 30.0.1599.101, Flash 11.9 (release 900)

Last edited by SuperNicky (Nov. 2, 2013 13:15:10)

Deerleg
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A better way to prevent project copying, without preventing remixes

This is a good idea, but with too many complications.
Also, please check out my riddle contest!A riddle contest

Last edited by Deerleg (Nov. 3, 2013 17:04:23)

DotDash
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A better way to prevent project copying, without preventing remixes

Deerleg wrote:

This is a good idea, but with too many complications.
Also, please check out my riddle contest!A riddle contest
Please show people your projects in the show and Tell forum.
seanbobe
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A better way to prevent project copying, without preventing remixes

MrKyurem wrote:

xlk wrote:

MrKyurem wrote:

What my friend JamesOuO has done to try and prevent this is he's added a script so that if me or him see a project which is a carbon copy of the original creation, we can stop it from working.

Anyway, +1
how?….

Added a hidden script which is hard to find so if me or him press A, B and C at the same time, all the scripts stop upon loading, using a variable.
how do you hide scripts?
xlk
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A better way to prevent project copying, without preventing remixes

seanbobe wrote:

MrKyurem wrote:

xlk wrote:

MrKyurem wrote:

What my friend JamesOuO has done to try and prevent this is he's added a script so that if me or him see a project which is a carbon copy of the original creation, we can stop it from working.

Anyway, +1
how?….

Added a hidden script which is hard to find so if me or him press A, B and C at the same time, all the scripts stop upon loading, using a variable.
how do you hide scripts?
Easy, have one large script, the typical one where everything happens, that is really important, and most scratcher have a hard time figuring out what it does, and behind it, tiny little script…. messing it all up.
jh1234l
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A better way to prevent project copying, without preventing remixes

xlk wrote:

seanbobe wrote:

MrKyurem wrote:

xlk wrote:

MrKyurem wrote:

What my friend JamesOuO has done to try and prevent this is he's added a script so that if me or him see a project which is a carbon copy of the original creation, we can stop it from working.

Anyway, +1
how?….

Added a hidden script which is hard to find so if me or him press A, B and C at the same time, all the scripts stop upon loading, using a variable.
how do you hide scripts?
Easy, have one large script, the typical one where everything happens, that is really important, and most scratcher have a hard time figuring out what it does, and behind it, tiny little script…. messing it all up.

Example:
When gf clicked
Forever
if <(Lockedvar) = 0>
stop [this script v]
else
add ([abs v] of [sprite 1 v] to [Itemlist v]
go to x: ([sin v] of (length of [positionlist v] ) * (pick random (1) to (10)) y: ([cos v] of (speedvariable) * (round (item (length of [positionlist v] - pick random 1 to (length of [positionlist v])
end
end

Last edited by jh1234l (Nov. 3, 2013 19:13:43)

DotDash
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A better way to prevent project copying, without preventing remixes

jh1234l wrote:

xlk wrote:

seanbobe wrote:

MrKyurem wrote:

xlk wrote:

MrKyurem wrote:

What my friend JamesOuO has done to try and prevent this is he's added a script so that if me or him see a project which is a carbon copy of the original creation, we can stop it from working.

Anyway, +1
how?….

Added a hidden script which is hard to find so if me or him press A, B and C at the same time, all the scripts stop upon loading, using a variable.
how do you hide scripts?
Easy, have one large script, the typical one where everything happens, that is really important, and most scratcher have a hard time figuring out what it does, and behind it, tiny little script…. messing it all up.

Example:
When gf clicked
Forever
if <(Lockedvar) = [0]>
stop [this script v]
else
add ([abs v] of [sprite 1 v]) to [Itemlist v]
go to x: <[[sin v] of (length of [positionlist v])] * (pick random (1) to (10))> y: <([cos v] of (speedvariable) * <(round (item (length of [positionlist v]> - (pick random 1 to (length of [positionlist v])>
end
end
Fixed (Sort of)

Last edited by DotDash (Nov. 3, 2013 21:00:31)

Eintity
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A better way to prevent project copying, without preventing remixes

You can remix projects, but you cannot copy them. Basic Creative Commons. I support.
CraftedCart
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46 posts

A better way to prevent project copying, without preventing remixes

Project copying is definitely annoying
According to the wiki, you should report copied projects
Reporting

Once a user finds a stolen project, the user has to first check to see if the project is not just a remix. If the project is confirmed as a copy, the user can then report it — it pays to be descriptive in the reason given for reporting, because often the Scratch Team mistakes the project theft for cases of remix disapproval. Be sure to also include the link to the original project.
MeDiaMond
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A better way to prevent project copying, without preventing remixes

Support!
Maybe there could also be a be an indication at the project page showing the size difference between the origial and remixed project or maybe there could be a button at the editor for other people who view it to see the scripts of the original project.
katocraft
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11 posts

A better way to prevent project copying, without preventing remixes

Honestly, remixing is a great thing. But people shouldn't have the right to just copy other people's stuff. They should have to make a lot of changes or have permission. I hate when people remix my stuff just so they can act like it's their own work. 80% of the time they don't even change anything!
when green flag clicked
if <[remix made] = [yes ]> then
(add new remix)
end

define add new remiz
1. rip people's ideas off
2. add ideas w/ project owner's permission

Last edited by katocraft (Jan. 11, 2015 10:54:58)

Rex208
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A better way to prevent project copying, without preventing remixes

kenblu24 wrote:

One thing I hate is when people only change one or two things, like putting their own logo on the project, and publish it. It would be impossible to prevent that, and I think it would be just as bad as not changing anything.
I agree.
Prinseskat
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A better way to prevent project copying, without preventing remixes

Or ban remixing for New Scratchers, which would definitely help… though I guess it kind of goes against the sticky.
I agree with explaining remixing the first time people do so.
Another thing you could do (which'd help if you're making drastic changes to a remix and need to save) is to have a “save remix” button and a “share remix” one, so people who are learning from the project and aren't trying to copy it can save, and it'll be unshared.
Also remove the “top remixed” section from the front page - it's mainly cc's anyway, and encourages remixing a bit. Not that I've ever seen a project asking for people to remix so they can be there, but still.
One thing you can already do (not a suggestion) is to say in the instructions that the original is by you. Because remixers just delete the notes and credits bit and tend to ignore the instructions, they don't read it - this is proof of that.
nimrocco
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A better way to prevent project copying, without preventing remixes

ehem

scratch slogan wrote:

imagine - program - SHARE
that means no support
Prinseskat
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A better way to prevent project copying, without preventing remixes

nimrocco wrote:

ehem

scratch slogan wrote:

imagine - program - SHARE
that means no support
Share =/= copying a project and not giving credit.
Xelophelt
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A better way to prevent project copying, without preventing remixes

Deerleg wrote:

This is a good idea, but with too many complications.
Also, please check out my riddle contest!A riddle contest
As per Deerleg. I would note something about the ad, but other people pretty much covered that base.

Although I have had experience with annoying duplicate projects i.e. Featured projects of my own (Explosion the Racer), I don't find it too much of a problem because I look at it as some people's shallow attempt at “fame”, and usually such attempts only generate minuscule results (Somewhere around 0 to 5 loves/faves is a good estimate).

So, It really isn't a problem for me and people who experience it on a daily basis (@scratchU8 and @griffpatch would be good examples of this), so I will leave it go with a “Ehhhhhh Maybe” on this idea.

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