Conilingua 2 (Revival)

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randomguyboi wrote:
Routine Conilingua Update 1: Sub-daily time
Each day (neynek) is divided into 36 dextis. These are about 40 minutes long, or about 2/3 of an hour. The dextises can technically be grouped into 9-dextis long sections, neytis, nuntis, nektis, and natsis, each centered around a certain time. For neytis, for example, it is centered around noon. The day starts when nektis and natsis meet, which happens to be around 3 in the morning. The dextis can also be divided into 36 tiids, and the tiid can be divided into 36 tuhoki. Brief recap:
neynek (full day, 24 hrs)
neytis, nuntis, nektis, natsis (quarter-day, 6 hrs)
dextis (hour-equivalent, 40 min)
tiid (about 67 seconds (66 and 2/3))
tuhoki (about 2 seconds (1 23/27))
Some suplementary words:
horolowzia - clock
shutsi - digital (relating to digits or concrete values)
neprekosnet - analog
cagxe - time (within a day)
deuver - a long time
tempo - time in general
Additional words I just felt like adding:
elafi - deer
keito - system
gxa - chicken 
aro - eagle
kaplewk - hawk
xuwoh - owl
minjao - small bird, especially songbird
Other news:
Finally ditching the l/r thing altogether. I may combine the two later on, but not now.

By “analog” do you mean “Values on a smooth stepless range”? Your definition of “digital” does not include digital electronics, while “neprekosnet” seemingly represents all of the English definitions of “analog”, which are “analog as relating to electronics, i.e. electronics which are not digital and operate on a smooth continuum of electrical values,” which is more common today, and “analog as in a smooth step-less range of values,” which is what (I assume) your definition of analog here means.

Redstone1080

i've reported the original thread to be closed, btw

Edit: It's closed now, but here's the link for reference

Last edited by Redstone1080 (July 9, 2022 14:52:01)

randomguyboi

Redstone1080 wrote:
i've reported the original thread to be closed, btw

Thank you.

randomguyboi

Alr time to necropost on my own thread

I'll just be adding some more words today cuz yeah

randomguyboi

Okay look I promise I'll post today

Canelo--

EVERY WORD SO FAR

aero      - air
aires     - sheep
Amerika-fepi-Bora (fejin Bahupars) - (United States of) America, USA would be ABB
anam      - name
angel     - angle
arbo      - tree
aro       - eagle
asta      - eight
Astamenur - eighth month (30 days)
ates      - front
atuma     - fall
auster    - south
aviso     - animal
bahu      - many, a lot
berili    - bright
biruza    - cyan
bora      - north
cagxe     - time (within a day)
caher     - four
caherangel- quadrilateral
caherces  - 24
Cahermenur- fourth month (still 31 days)
canik     - dog
cap       - head, beginning, title, heading
capov     - nod
capra     - goat
cejou     - nine
Cejoumenur- ninth month (30 days again)
ces       - six
Cesmenur  - sixth month (back to 31 days)
cesnif    - 216
coniz     - common
Dekamenur - twelfth month (30 days)
dekana    - twelve
deo       - two
Deomenur  - second month (is also 31 days)
deuver    - a long time
dextis    - hour-equivalent, 40 min
Doicia    - Germany
downe     - down
dubus     - black
eja       - yes, on
ejeo      - yellow
elafi     - deer
eqos      - horse
fari      - make/create root (stolen from the Esperanto verb "fari," but I realized midway through that "fari" didn't end with -(d)om)
faridom   - to make/create
farimenet - the process of making/creating
fau       - dative
feduken   - pertingent and locative cases
feilos    - cat
fejin     - genitive
fepi      - adessive (at/by)
Feransia  - France
feto      - allative & illative (to, into, onto)
fetwoko   - ablative
fingan    - thing
flojo     - flower
for       - accusative
fue       - a few
gaiha     - temperate
gan(m)    - person
gata      - large, old
gejom     - winter
gere      - green
gris      - grey
gwero     - war/conflict
gxa       - chicken
horolowzia- clock
horolowzia- clock
jur       - celestial body
kam       - black
Kanadia   - Canada
kanka     - container, can, box, to contain
kaplewk   - hawk
kasa      - house
keito     - system
ketin     - small, young
kitibo    - plant
komens    - start, commence
kroc      - scratch (action, physical)
kubi      - cube
kulej     -  back
kuuces    - 30
kuugej    - five
Kuumenur  - fifth month (32 days this time)
lazula    - blue
leo       - lion
lifet     - left
lingua    - language
lito      - bed
man       - hand
manjo     - eat
manov     - climb
medio     - middle
mena      - cold
merogis   - border
minjao    - small bird, especially songbird
nase      - know
naso      - dawn, early morning
natsis    - dawn quarter-day (figuratively: the beginning)
naxovi    - magenta
ne        - no, zero, off
nektis    - night quarter-day (figuratively: the low point)
nekto     - night
neprekosnet- analog
neynek    - a full day-night cycle, 24 hrs
neyta     - day
neytis    - noontime quarter-day (figuratively: the peak)
nif       - 36
Nihonia   - Japan
nou       - now
nuno      - dusk, evening
nuntis    - dusk quarter-day (figuratively, the downfall)
oksidar   - west
orien     - east
ornito    - bird
ov        - move, change position
pars      - a part of, a fraction
pato      - flat
ped       - foot, end
pedov     - walk
pejotin   - flower petal
pises     - fish
poc       - after, later
pre       - before, earlier
projana   - project, hobby
qe        - and
qesi      - if
qeve      - or
qid       - why
qija      - because
qis       - who, what ("who" is also qos tewtex if more specificity is required)
qos       - which
rit       - right
roi       - royal (any royal)
Rosiya    - Russia
roxjo     - red
rutilo    - orange
sefro     - sphere
sejou     - seven
Sejoumenur- seventh month (30 days)
semex     - summer
sene      - hot
serkor    - circle
sevar     - see
shutsi    - digital (relating to digits or concrete values)
sos       - pig
Sunkwoya  - China
taura     - cow/bull/head of cattle
teg       - ten
Tegmenur  - tenth month (also 30 days)
tempo     - time, time in general
teria     - three
teriaces  - 18
teriangel - triangle
tewtex    - a group of people, a nation, also 1 person but only in questions
tiid      - minute-equivalent, about 67 seconds
toles     - the, but only used when the thing being described is either: a) not the subject or topic of the discussion, but still definite or b) being highlighted for emphasis
Triamenur - third month (also 31 days)
tuhoki    - second-equivalent, about 2 seconds
tzurki    - scratch (website), from scratch
Ukrajia   - Ukraine
unifet    - eleven
Unifmenur - eleventh month (29 days)
unu       - one
Unumenur  - first month (starts March 20th, is 31 days)
up        - up
violace   - violet/purple
viso      - life
vulpes    - fox
wesan     - to be, adjectival marker, state marker, expression of an adjective or state
weva      - wave
wozer     - spring
xitas     - white
xuwoh     - owl
zale      - to go (to), to travel (to), to transfer between two things, to transform into

Affixes

-(a)do    - passive participle suffix
-(a)ga    - darker
-(a)ndo   - active participle suffix
-(a)xi    - desaturated (grayer, of colors?)
-(aw)ti   - third person feminine
-(d)om    - verb suffix
-(d)on    - noun suffix
-(e)ba    - third person masculine
-(e)mi    - first person
-(e)tu    - second person
-(i)ke    - light (of colors?)
-(i)ke    - lighter
-(o)da    - third person neuter
-(o)t     - adadjectival suffix, for adjectives into adadjectives
-(u)k     - third person inanimate
-dej      - female
-exian    - basically our version of "-illion" (also superlative form of ad___)
-go       - adverbial suffix, for verbs or adjectives to adverbs.
-mas      - male
-menet    - process
-neqos    - neuter
-of       - thing being possessed
-ren      - a suffix that indicates that the number applies to the pronoun on the word after the number rather than the object itself.
-y        - adjectival suffix, used exactly how it is in English.
a(n)-     - subjunctive/indefinte
med-      - middle
n(e)-     - not, opposite
omni-     - all

Last edited by Canelo-- (July 25, 2022 22:56:14)

Canelo--

Working on something that may make this a good deal easier.

Also, coining:

fari      - make/create root (stolen from the Esperanto verb "fari," but I realized midway through that "fari" didn't end with -(d)om)
faridom   - to make/create
farimenet - the process of making/creating

lingua faridoy - constructed language
farilingua     - conlang

Participles

-(a)ndo   - active participle suffix
-(a)do    - passive participle suffix

Last edited by Canelo-- (July 25, 2022 22:55:03)

randomguyboi

hey guys I'm back
hopefully I can post something before school starts Tuesday

randomguyboi

Alright. We don't really have a way to notate the tense-aspect-mood of verbs yet, so I'm gonna make that now

Tenses:
Past Tense: pre-
Present Tense: (unmarked)
Future Tense: poc-

These can be stacked. For example, prezale means “I travelled”, poczale means “I will travel”, and pocprezale means “I will have travelled”. In theory it can get unwieldy but there's not many absolute-relative-relative tenses being used, ever.

Special cases: When talking about something brand new and revolutionary, the future tense is used. If we are talking about something that happened in the past that changed the world, say “at the time, it will be game-changing.” instead of “at the time, it was game-changing.”

Aspect:
I'd say a good system for Aspect would be:
Perfective: -nete
Habitual: -batu
Continuous: -mente
Perfect (great name): -temto

Modalities:
Alright, so there are gonna be a lot. Hold on to your hats, folks. Also, these are all displayed via periphrasis, and the words are located before the verb in question
Epistemic: certe
Reported: sperava
Visual/Auditory: naoc
Non-Visual/Auditory (acquired with some other sense): cena
Deontic/Imperative: deon
Dynamic: abile

and that's all. We already have indicative-subjunctive, so yeah.

That means “Naoc prowesanbatumi” means “I saw that it was on many occasions” and a sentence like “Sperava prekomenstemtobatuhawti, faridomente.” means “While it is reported she started on it many times, she is not yet done.”

Redstone1080

Grammar

randomguyboi wrote:
Sperava prekomenstemtobatuhawti, faridomente.

This conlang is starting to polysynthesize itself into oblivion xD

We need an optional way to simplify/make it easier to read long words if we need to. I had a great idea:

Affixes can sometimes replace, shorten, or delete adjacent syllables. Ex:
Faridoy -> Faroy, Fadoy, Faidoy, etc.

However, a simple 3-5 step guide should be in place about how to compress words properly so reconstruction isn't impossible. Someone could follow a few easy steps to figure out what the original word is instead of asking what the word originally was, defeating the entire purpose of this proposal.

Example: the monster that is “prekomenstemtobatuhawti” could be condensed into “premensetobatawti”. (just an example, I haven't thought of a guideyet.)

Words for Food/Temperature

cookie - biskuit/kokyi (biskuit derived from French, kokyi from the original Dutch root for cookie “koekje”)
chocolate - koslad (derived from Frisian and Latin)
-> “chocolate chip cookie” in Conilingua would be “kokyi koslady”. With the new grammar suggestion from earlier you can make that much easier to say: “kokyoslady”
deep frier - fritzak (derived from French and… Czech, for some reason)
to freeze - gelek
to burn - brulek

Last edited by Redstone1080 (Aug. 4, 2022 03:42:32)

randomguyboi

Redstone1080 wrote:
Grammar
randomguyboi wrote:
Sperava prekomenstemtobatuhawti, faridomente.
This conlang is starting to polysynthesize itself into oblivion xD

We need an optional way to simplify/make it easier to read long words if we need to. I had a great idea:

Affixes can sometimes replace, shorten, or delete adjacent syllables. Ex:
Faridoy -> Faroy, Fadoy, Faidoy, etc.

However, a simple 3-5 step guide should be in place about how to compress words properly so reconstruction isn't impossible. Someone could follow a few easy steps to figure out what the original word is instead of asking what the word originally was, defeating the entire purpose of this proposal.

Example: the monster that is “prekomenstemtobatuhawti” could be condensed into “premensetobatawti”. (just an example, I haven't thought of a guideyet.)

interesting. I feel like it is going down that path, but removing syllables would also remove clarity, and that is the number 1 thing we don't want. I feel like long words are okay as long as they aren't too long, but we should have some sort of way to split the affixes off the root if it gets too unwieldy, a sort of affix-cubby if you will.

Words for Food/Temperature
cookie - biskuit/kokyi (biskuit derived from French, kokyi from the original Dutch root for cookie “koekje”)
chocolate - koslad (derived from Frisian and Latin)
-> “chocolate chip cookie” in Conilingua would be “kokyi koslady”. With the new grammar suggestion from earlier you can make that much easier to say: “kokyoslady”
deep frier - fritzak (derived from French and… Czech, for some reason)
to freeze - gelek
to burn - brulek

This is amazing. I feel like biskuit and kokyi should have different meanings though, even if only slightly. biskuit, in my opinion, should mean a cookie that you'd use in snacks and with beverages, while kokyi should mean a cookie restricted toward desert. everything else is great.

Redstone1080

Wesanmente renmas gan.
I am a male person.

Manjomenteemi kokji
Manjo.CON.1P kokji
“I am eating a cookie right now, which I will not dip in milk.”

edit 2 days later: grammar. forgot the indefinite article in English before the subject noun ‘cookie’.

Last edited by Redstone1080 (Aug. 6, 2022 12:54:08)

randomguyboi

Posting tonight, I promise, for real

Redstone1080

Picture: picto/victo

Scam: “picto-aviso” / “Animal picture”

kkidslogin

Redstone1080 wrote:
Picture: picto/victo

Scam: “picto-aviso” / “Animal picture”

lol

randomguyboi

randomguyboi wrote:
Posting tonight, I promise, for real

*narration voice* He did not post for the following 3 months

onegoha

Conilingua 2 (unrevivable)

Last edited by onegoha (Oct. 16, 2022 21:16:33)

kkidslogin

onegoha wrote:
Conilingua 2 (unrevived)

lol

Redstone1080

onegoha wrote:
(#37)
Conilingua 2 (unrevived)

exactly

randomguyboi

onegoha wrote:
Conilingua 2 (unrevived)

pretty much yeah

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