Don't ban fun!

dertermenter

Us forumers put in the grind to help the Scratch Community over here in our own time, whether it is answering questions from scratchers, having constructive discussions in suggestions to help the developers of the site, reporting bugs for the developers or helping scratchers with their projects. We deserve a break for 2 days after our tireless work, and not to mention the reasoning is not the best. It was sadly just a small minority who spammed last year and with newer forumers hearing about last year circumstances, I doubt it will happen again.

This sounds harsh but I am sure people can figure out that it is not a normal day in the forums when asking for help, and we need a break, do we now have to start assisting people on our only break of the year, just because a few people need help? We give enough help throughout the year. Honestly.

Edit: Oh, and the Scratch Team do not have to clear up and dustbin joke topics. They did not in previous years, and what harm did that do lying about? It was just the spam, not the jokes, from what I remember the Scratch Team overreacted and cleared out way more than they should have done.

Last edited by dertermenter (March 17, 2022 22:28:25)

Thoughts on AFD on the forums

The2000 wrote:
All suggestions are unnecessary. If a suggestion is necessary then it's a bug report.

dertermenter wrote:
April Fools Day on the forums has been a repeated privilege, not an expectation

sharkode

VioletCalico wrote:
Oh by the way here’s the post link

The forums easily get clogged up with joke posts on April Fool’s Day, so I can see why they would not want any more joke topics. If someone actually had an issue or a question on that day, it would most likely not get answered, and that is a problem for many reasons.
sharkode wrote:
We forumers worked like free customer support to ST
I wouldn’t say I agree with that. It’s our choice to forum and we aren’t really working for Scratch or anything, just trying to help out. Personally, I forum to help people and to practice my formal writing skills.

Doesn't matter if we were doing this voluntarily or not, we make the job of ST much easier and saves a lots of their time and money, but what do we get in return? They wouldn't even let us use the forums to have some fun on April Fool's day! ST says it wastes their time cleaning up the topics, but they should also remember that we forumers save them way more time in moderation and customer support than we waste on April Fool's day.

>>>This suggestion could end reduce mass reporting.<<<
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Common forum languages (highlight this text and click shift+down arrow for more):

Support - Means someone supports a suggestion, make sure to say the reason when you are supporting a suggestion.
No support - Means someone don't support a suggestion, while it may sound a little mean, it's actually not as not everybody have to support the suggestion you purposed.
Bump - Bumping is a method of bringing a topic back to the front page.
Necroposting - Means bringing an old, dead, topic that nobody cares about back to life, necroposting comes from the greek word “nekros” meaning “corpse”, necroposting is prohibited as it wastes front page space.
Ocular - A website that allows you to search forum posts.
Dupe/duplicate - Posts that suggests the same thing, it's a good idea to use Ocular.
ST - Is short for Scratch Team, the moderators on this site.
ToS - Is short for Terms of Use, a bunch of legal jargon and stuffs like that.
TOLoRS - Is short for The Official List of Rejected Suggestions, it's always a good idea to read it before making a suggestion.
Kaj - A user who threatened to hack Scratch, he later became a legend and people often joked about him hacking posts.

sharkode

dertermenter wrote:
Us forumers put in the grind to help the Scratch Community over here in our own time, whether it is answering questions from scratchers, having constructive discussions in suggestions to help the developers of the site, reporting bugs for the developers or helping scratchers with their projects. We deserve a break for 2 days after our tireless work, and not to mention the reasoning is not the best. It was sadly just a small minority who spammed last year and with newer forumers hearing about last year circumstances, I doubt it will happen again.

Exactly! We helped the Scratch community for free and we at least do deserve to have some fun in return.

>>>This suggestion could end reduce mass reporting.<<<
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Common forum languages (highlight this text and click shift+down arrow for more):

Support - Means someone supports a suggestion, make sure to say the reason when you are supporting a suggestion.
No support - Means someone don't support a suggestion, while it may sound a little mean, it's actually not as not everybody have to support the suggestion you purposed.
Bump - Bumping is a method of bringing a topic back to the front page.
Necroposting - Means bringing an old, dead, topic that nobody cares about back to life, necroposting comes from the greek word “nekros” meaning “corpse”, necroposting is prohibited as it wastes front page space.
Ocular - A website that allows you to search forum posts.
Dupe/duplicate - Posts that suggests the same thing, it's a good idea to use Ocular.
ST - Is short for Scratch Team, the moderators on this site.
ToS - Is short for Terms of Use, a bunch of legal jargon and stuffs like that.
TOLoRS - Is short for The Official List of Rejected Suggestions, it's always a good idea to read it before making a suggestion.
Kaj - A user who threatened to hack Scratch, he later became a legend and people often joked about him hacking posts.

DarthVader4Life

What if… there's a temporary sticky1 in each forum, of which are dedicated to April Fools? When April Fools is over, all you have to do is just close or dustbin it. Solves the ST having to clean up a lot and still lets us have our fun.

1: Either it is permanently stickied and just closed and reopened accordingly or just is unstickied afterwards. It could be dustbinned, too.

Be Moist

Also, here's a helpful link to Ocular
I am DV4L, Erector of Text Walls, Typer of Long Posts, Creator of Mini-mod posts
The kumquats have eaten this line, so I have to have a new way to repel them.
Had a bad day or are feeling bored? Watch this to make your day better in an interesting way.
Do you think you've been banned unfairly? Then you'd be wrong. The ST aren't children, so quit acting like they are.

k0d3rrr

dertermenter wrote:
Us forumers put in the grind to help the Scratch Community over here in our own time, whether it is answering questions from scratchers, having constructive discussions in suggestions to help the developers of the site, reporting bugs for the developers or helping scratchers with their projects. We deserve a break for 2 days after our tireless work, and not to mention the reasoning is not the best. It was sadly just a small minority who spammed last year and with newer forumers hearing about last year circumstances, I doubt it will happen again.

If only there was an applause emoji on Scratch… Speeches like that is why Scratch is amazing. It connects brings the world together, helping each other when in need of help.

Last edited by k0d3rrr (March 17, 2022 22:42:29)

k0d3rrr

3 forum tips for experienced forumers (in no particular order):

If you are reporting a new forumer's topic to be closed, or moved to another forum, don't mention it, because then, the topic creator will think they will receive either an alert or a block.
New forumers won't immediately know the rules or terminology of the forums. I have seen this happen hundreds of times (exaggeratedly), especially when experienced forumers (I won't name any) tell new forumers that they are "necroposting", which is when someone posts on an old and resolved topic (especially in the Questions about Scratch forum), causing said topic to be moved to the front page of that forum.

Using Scratchblocks as a writing style is not blockspam, unless it is not relevant to the discussion. For example, this

ExampleScratcher1 wrote:
How do I make a smooth gliding animation?
when green flag clicked
repeat until <(my question) = [answered]>
ask [How do I make a smooth gliding animation?] and wait
end
say [Thank you!]

is not blockspam, but these

ExampleScratcher2 (first post) wrote:

when green flag clicked
move (58) steps
play sound [Stock Laughter Sound Effect HD - 1 Hour v]
forever
play sound [Stock Screaming Sound Effect HD - 1 Hour v]
switch backdrop to [internet v]
say [i broke the internet] for (2) secs
turn cw (15) degrees
go to [nearby restaurant v]
next costume
end

ExampleScratcher2 (second post) wrote:

when green flag clicked
repeat until <(out of dorito's) = [true]>
broadcast [eat dorito chip v]
end
say [IM OUT OF DORITO'S!!!!!!!!! :(]
play sound [Scream2 v] until done
forever
turn cw (120) degrees
play sound [Scream2 v]
play sound [we have no dorito's sorry v]
end

are blockspam, and must be reported.

HogRidingWasTaken

I mean, usless topics about ¨HALP MY PROJECT BROKEE!!!¨ with a link to Never Gonna Give You Up is not constructive, regardless of the day of the week.

13yo teen male who has returned to scratch after like 6 months…
I own free pizza service

DarthVader4Life

HogRidingWasTaken wrote:
I mean, usless topics about ¨HALP MY PROJECT BROKEE!!!¨ with a link to Never Gonna Give You Up is not constructive, regardless of the day of the week.

That's the point of April Fools, to joke around.

Be Moist

Also, here's a helpful link to Ocular
I am DV4L, Erector of Text Walls, Typer of Long Posts, Creator of Mini-mod posts
The kumquats have eaten this line, so I have to have a new way to repel them.
Had a bad day or are feeling bored? Watch this to make your day better in an interesting way.
Do you think you've been banned unfairly? Then you'd be wrong. The ST aren't children, so quit acting like they are.

HogRidingWasTaken

DarthVader4Life wrote:
That's the point of April Fools, to joke around.

It is often not a good idea to protest the Scratch Team´s choices because most of them are for our own good, there as probably a big issue and much consideration before they decided that.

13yo teen male who has returned to scratch after like 6 months…
I own free pizza service

Prime689

My personal opinion on banning the April Fools event is this;
–
It is important that the Scratch Team allows April Fools joke topics, but never encouraged them. An example of a better joke topic composes of the post being constructive, whilst centralizing on a comedic subject; treating it like it was a serious subject. I do agree that posting spam (in this context, posting incoherable content) on April fools should not be discouraged, but removed as it breaks the guidelines. Some 2021 April fools topics abide by the guidelines (like this one) and should not be considered spam.

The Scratch Team should have limited the April fools topic in the first place, by stating what I said above.

Last edited by Prime689 (March 18, 2022 00:17:33)

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sharkode

Prime689 wrote:
My personal opinion on banning the April Fools event is this;
–
It is important that the Scratch Team allows April Fools joke topics, but never encouraged them. An example of a better joke topic composes of the post being constructive, whilst centralizing on a comedic subject; treating it like it was a serious subject. I do agree that posting spam (in this context, posting incoherable content) on April fools should not be discouraged, but removed as it breaks the guidelines. Some, or most 2021 April fools topics are constructive (like this one) and should not be considered spam.

The Scratch Team should have limited the April fools topic in the first place, by stating what I said above.

I disagree, April fool's topic should be encouraged because:

I wrote:
April fools topics is beneficial to the community because the community would learn that ST and the forumers are relatable people like them and not just some boring people without a sense of humour that are always formal, this could help to ease the tensions between ST and the community (there are some hostilities against ST in some parts of the community) and could make the community more favourable of ST.

>>>This suggestion could end reduce mass reporting.<<<
=======================================================================================

Common forum languages (highlight this text and click shift+down arrow for more):

Support - Means someone supports a suggestion, make sure to say the reason when you are supporting a suggestion.
No support - Means someone don't support a suggestion, while it may sound a little mean, it's actually not as not everybody have to support the suggestion you purposed.
Bump - Bumping is a method of bringing a topic back to the front page.
Necroposting - Means bringing an old, dead, topic that nobody cares about back to life, necroposting comes from the greek word “nekros” meaning “corpse”, necroposting is prohibited as it wastes front page space.
Ocular - A website that allows you to search forum posts.
Dupe/duplicate - Posts that suggests the same thing, it's a good idea to use Ocular.
ST - Is short for Scratch Team, the moderators on this site.
ToS - Is short for Terms of Use, a bunch of legal jargon and stuffs like that.
TOLoRS - Is short for The Official List of Rejected Suggestions, it's always a good idea to read it before making a suggestion.
Kaj - A user who threatened to hack Scratch, he later became a legend and people often joked about him hacking posts.

Prime689

sharkode wrote:
I disagree, April fool's topic should be encouraged because:
I wrote:
April fools topics is beneficial to the community because the community would learn that ST and the forumers are relatable people like them and not just some boring people without a sense of humour that are always formal, this could help to ease the tensions between ST and the community (there are some hostilities against ST in some parts of the community) and could make the community more favourable of ST.

I do not think that spam should be encouraged; it will just set a bad role model on the ST.

Last edited by Prime689 (March 18, 2022 00:25:10)

6'2 - they/them - canadian - teen

sharkode

Prime689 wrote:
sharkode wrote:
I disagree, April fool's topic should be encouraged because:
I wrote:
April fools topics is beneficial to the community because the community would learn that ST and the forumers are relatable people like them and not just some boring people without a sense of humour that are always formal, this could help to ease the tensions between ST and the community (there are some hostilities against ST in some parts of the community) and could make the community more favourable of ST.
I do not think that spam should be encouraged; it will just set a bad role model on the ST.

I wasn't talking about spam.

>>>This suggestion could end reduce mass reporting.<<<
=======================================================================================

Common forum languages (highlight this text and click shift+down arrow for more):

Support - Means someone supports a suggestion, make sure to say the reason when you are supporting a suggestion.
No support - Means someone don't support a suggestion, while it may sound a little mean, it's actually not as not everybody have to support the suggestion you purposed.
Bump - Bumping is a method of bringing a topic back to the front page.
Necroposting - Means bringing an old, dead, topic that nobody cares about back to life, necroposting comes from the greek word “nekros” meaning “corpse”, necroposting is prohibited as it wastes front page space.
Ocular - A website that allows you to search forum posts.
Dupe/duplicate - Posts that suggests the same thing, it's a good idea to use Ocular.
ST - Is short for Scratch Team, the moderators on this site.
ToS - Is short for Terms of Use, a bunch of legal jargon and stuffs like that.
TOLoRS - Is short for The Official List of Rejected Suggestions, it's always a good idea to read it before making a suggestion.
Kaj - A user who threatened to hack Scratch, he later became a legend and people often joked about him hacking posts.

dhuls

HogRidingWasTaken wrote:
(#48)
DarthVader4Life wrote:
That's the point of April Fools, to joke around.
It is often not a good idea to protest the Scratch Team´s choices because most of them are for our own good, there as probably a big issue and much consideration before they decided that.

They're not gods lol, they're wrong sometimes (cough cough browser extensions. manager restrictions).

Test how good your computer is at doing math. 3DS and Wii U online after shutdown.

han614698

AFD is not an excuse to break the ToU

dhuls wrote:
HogRidingWasTaken wrote:
(#48)
DarthVader4Life wrote:
That's the point of April Fools, to joke around.
It is often not a good idea to protest the Scratch Team´s choices because most of them are for our own good, there as probably a big issue and much consideration before they decided that.
They're not gods lol, they're wrong sometimes (cough cough browser extensions. manager restrictions).

That point is subjective.

Last edited by han614698 (March 18, 2022 00:45:43)

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qloakonscratch

sharkode wrote:
VioletCalico wrote:
Oh by the way here’s the post link

The forums easily get clogged up with joke posts on April Fool’s Day, so I can see why they would not want any more joke topics. If someone actually had an issue or a question on that day, it would most likely not get answered, and that is a problem for many reasons.
sharkode wrote:
We forumers worked like free customer support to ST
I wouldn’t say I agree with that. It’s our choice to forum and we aren’t really working for Scratch or anything, just trying to help out. Personally, I forum to help people and to practice my formal writing skills.
Doesn't matter if we were doing this voluntarily or not, we make the job of ST much easier and saves a lots of their time and money, but what do we get in return? They wouldn't even let us use the forums to have some fun on April Fool's day! ST says it wastes their time cleaning up the topics, but they should also remember that we forumers save them way more time in moderation and customer support than we waste on April Fool's day.

The Scratch Team has to manage the entire website, every single forum, and live their lives on top of that. I think that's all the reward we need.

not plat

dertermenter

han614698 wrote:
AFD is not an excuse to break the ToU
dhuls wrote:
HogRidingWasTaken wrote:
(#48)
DarthVader4Life wrote:
That's the point of April Fools, to joke around.
It is often not a good idea to protest the Scratch Team´s choices because most of them are for our own good, there as probably a big issue and much consideration before they decided that.
They're not gods lol, they're wrong sometimes (cough cough browser extensions. manager restrictions).
That point is subjective.

How comes it has been an excuse all the previous years?

Thoughts on AFD on the forums

The2000 wrote:
All suggestions are unnecessary. If a suggestion is necessary then it's a bug report.

dertermenter wrote:
April Fools Day on the forums has been a repeated privilege, not an expectation

-PizzaKing-

We can also push the scratch team to open a whole other discussion (only on April fools day) that says “jokes” similar to the “suggestions” one.

Join the May 1st profile change, thank you to those who made it a HUGE success last year! JOIN

Yellowsheep43

This topic should be renamed to “Don't ban joke posts on April Fool's Day”

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portalpower

I think we should just say if it's a joke topic and assume that all topics that don't say they are are serious.

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cheddargirl

I don't think an activity that is severely disruptive can be counted as fun.

I also don't think it's appropriate to justify being severely disruptive on April Fool's Day just because you were helping others on the forums (that's kind of a shallow reason to be helping others anyway).

I also think you can still find fun using studios and projects for April Fool's Day.

Sadly, my forum signature was eaten by an evil kumquat.

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