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akku--n11
Scratcher
1000+ posts

NewScratchers can't Report

Currently, NewScratchers can also be reported, but they sometimes don't understand Scratch's rules such as community guidelines, and since they can create accounts easily, they can be used for trolling.
In fact, in Japan, one person created several accounts and indiscriminately reported Trending, and all the projects up to the third page were unshared.
Therefore, please make sure that NewScratchers are not allowed to report.


I'm not very good at English…
I use translation.

Last edited by akku--n11 (Feb. 22, 2022 22:59:04)

mexicanboyrrv
Scratcher
500+ posts

NewScratchers can't Report

I think is a dupe, just let me find it.

Last edited by mexicanboyrrv (Feb. 22, 2022 22:58:39)

k0d3rrr
Scratcher
1000+ posts

NewScratchers can't Report

I tried to search for a dupe, but the Ocular search engine was blocked…
lolecksdeehaha
Scratcher
1000+ posts

NewScratchers can't Report

i don't think this is a dupe

No support. Why should they not be allowed to report? Sure, false reporting, but still, they might see an inappropriate project. Take this example:
Scratcher 1: Oh no! an inappropriate project. I'll report it-
Popup: You are a new scratcher, you cannot report this project.
Scratcher 1: Oh no.
Offender: Another new scratcher cannot report me! Yay!

Last edited by lolecksdeehaha (Feb. 22, 2022 23:12:21)

mexicanboyrrv
Scratcher
500+ posts

NewScratchers can't Report

mexicanboyrrv wrote:

I think is a dupe, just let me find it.
Didn't find anything, so don't think it is
akku--n11
Scratcher
1000+ posts

NewScratchers can't Report

I could not find any dupe.

lolecksdeehaha wrote:

Scratcher 1: Oh no! an inappropriate project. I'll report it-
Popup: You are a new scratcher, you cannot report this project.
Scratcher 1: Oh no.
Offender: Another new scratcher cannot report me! Yay!
If you have not registered an account with Scratch, you cannot report it.
For NewScratcher, there is an option to not show the report button on the project page.
It's also easy to become a Scratcher if you keep up the good work for a while. We I believe that trolls will not try to troll that much.

Last edited by akku--n11 (Feb. 23, 2022 01:45:28)

mexicanboyrrv
Scratcher
500+ posts

NewScratchers can't Report

akku--n11 wrote:

I could not find any dupe.

lolecksdeehaha wrote:

Scratcher 1: Oh no! an inappropriate project. I'll report it-
Popup: You are a new scratcher, you cannot report this project.
Scratcher 1: Oh no.
Offender: Another new scratcher cannot report me! Yay!
If you have not registered an account with Scratch, you cannot report it.
For NewScratcher, there is an option to not show the report button on the project page.
It's also easy to become a Scratcher if you keep up the good work for a while. We believe that trolls will not try to troll that much.
Trolls will always be trolls, also trolls will always try. Also, it takes like 3 weeks to be Scratcher, by then the inappropriate project would have already been viewed a lot.
also out of the blue, who's we? “We believe that trolls will not try to troll that much.”

Last edited by mexicanboyrrv (Feb. 22, 2022 23:37:20)

JT_Production
Scratcher
100+ posts

NewScratchers can't Report

Semi-Support. Maybe they still can report but it just sends it to the scratch team instead of taking the project down, or does that not happen? I think new scratchers still should be able to have some way of reporting though in case they say something bad.
akku--n11
Scratcher
1000+ posts

NewScratchers can't Report

I forgot that NewScratcher also requires you to report really bad things.

mexicanboyrrv wrote:

also out of the blue, who's we? “We believe that trolls will not try to troll that much.”
I'm sorry. That was a translation error. I've corrected it.
akku--n11
Scratcher
1000+ posts

NewScratchers can't Report

It might be better to allow the same person, or a person registered with the same email address, to report the same project only once.
Moving on to this topic.
sharkode
Scratcher
1000+ posts

NewScratchers can't Report

lolecksdeehaha wrote:

i don't think this is a dupe

No support. Why should they not be allowed to report? Sure, false reporting, but still, they might see an inappropriate project. Take this example:
Scratcher 1: Oh no! an inappropriate project. I'll report it-
Popup: You are a new scratcher, you cannot report this project.
Scratcher 1: Oh no.
Offender: Another new scratcher cannot report me! Yay!
False reporting is almost as bad as ddosing the server, this is not a minor inconvenience, I think this would be a pretty reasonable suggestion as NS understood less about CG than Scratchers, and it would be harder to mass report, letting NS report stuff is almost as bad as letting guests report stuffs, which is a horrible idea
sweetment
Scratcher
96 posts

NewScratchers can't Report

akku--n11 wrote:

Currently, NewScratchers can also be reported, but they sometimes don't understand Scratch's rules such as community guidelines, and since they can create accounts easily, they can be used for trolling.
In fact, in Japan, one person created several accounts and indiscriminately reported Trending, and all the projects up to the third page were unshared.
Therefore, please make sure that NewScratchers are not allowed to report.


I'm not very good at English…
I use translation.
Yes u are right the scratcher should be atleast 2 months or 1 month old so that he/she can report
10goto10
Scratcher
1000+ posts

NewScratchers can't Report

JT_Production wrote:

Semi-Support. Maybe they still can report but it just sends it to the scratch team instead of taking the project down, or does that not happen? I think new scratchers still should be able to have some way of reporting though in case they say something bad.
This is what I’d rather see. Let a New Scratcher continue to be able to report a project but not have that person’s report count in the website’s automatic unsharing of a project.

This means that a project might stay visible longer on the website, but only if New Scratchers are the only ones finding and reporting the project. I don’t know what the probability of that actually happening would be, but it seems low, and doing that would help with the issue. What we don’t know, and the Scratch Team is unlikely to tell us, is the percentage of the time that a project was automatically unjustly unshared because most of the reports came from New Scratchers.


hi875230163394
Scratcher
1000+ posts

NewScratchers can't Report

New scratcher exists just to prevent project spam and incredibly fast straining of servers, this is an awful idea, a troll could just spam highly inappropriate stuff with 20 different alts without EVER getting reported, and by the time ST finds out its already too late and too much damage has been done
scratchgodo
Scratcher
1000+ posts

NewScratchers can't Report

hi875230163394 wrote:

New scratcher exists just to prevent project spam and incredibly fast straining of servers, this is an awful idea, a troll could just spam highly inappropriate stuff with 20 different alts without EVER getting reported, and by the time ST finds out its already too late and too much damage has been done
This is a suggestion so new scratchers can't report not new scratchers can not be reported.
Note this is not a signature
I think this is a bit of a good idea only if new scratchers can't report scratchers but still can report new scratchers.

Last edited by scratchgodo (Feb. 23, 2022 12:59:54)

Yellowsheep43
Scratcher
1000+ posts

NewScratchers can't Report

I think this is just an issue that we have to bite our tounges for. We can't really do much about it without changing things for the worse.
ideapad-320
Scratcher
1000+ posts

NewScratchers can't Report

Maybe their report could only count as .25 or .5 or .1 or something for autoban. Or autobans should require more reports on popular projects.
scratchykit5743
Scratcher
1000+ posts

NewScratchers can't Report

No support- what if a troll was onsite and said troll was a new scratcher? If we couldn't report them, they couldn't be stopped, people would complain, and it would cause more havoc! All in all, this would just make things way worse than it already is.

Last edited by scratchykit5743 (Feb. 23, 2022 15:34:12)

sqrtofPI
Scratcher
100+ posts

NewScratchers can't Report

scratchykit5743 wrote:

(#18)
No support- what if a troll was onsite and said troll was a new scratcher? If we couldn't report them, they couldn't be stopped, people would complain, and it would cause more havoc! All in all, this would just make things way worse than it already is.

Adzboy wrote:

(#19)
No Support
If a new scratcher was breaking the community guidelines and being rude to you, it wouldn't stop as you couldn't report them.
Also, if someone wanted to not be reported, they would stay as a new scratcher instead of becoming a scratcher as they know they can't be reported so then they could keep breaking the community guidelines with no punishment
This is suggesting that New Scratchers can't report other Scratchers, not that New Scratchers can't be reported.
TheGlassPenguin
Scratcher
1000+ posts

NewScratchers can't Report

I don't support this.
This would do more harm than good. If a New Scratcher-ranked user found a relatively-unknown inappropriate project, what would they be able to do? The project creator could get away with it and not face any repercussions unless another Scratcher-ranked user discovers the project. There are other solutions, like only letting a user have one unreviewed report at a time, but restricting reports isn't a good idea.

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