mybearworld wrote:

change the genitive
it's not exactly appropiate in german

I’m compiling a list of all the new words we’re making today, so I’ll change fiken (Icelandic) to fejin (Irish)

Redstone1080 wrote:

Vocabulary time!

Self-motion!

pedia - walk (use ‘walk to me’ for ‘follow’)
pacal - climb
pediatu a ganmonemi - “follow” in the sense of motion

Time!

nou - now
nekto - night
neyta - day
naso - dawn
nuno - dusk

And now, for shortening a word!
ganmon => gan (turns into ganm with suffixes)

Ok hold on lemme make a list of changes we're gonna do.
And I quote:
Ok. I'll go ahead and set the word order to be SVO, datives go before the verb, genitives go after the thing they describe. I'll also add a couple more articles: (also Im changing <elo> to <qe> because latin)
qe - and
qis - who, what (who is also qos tewtex if more specificity is required)
qos - which
qid - why
qija - because
qeve - or
qesi - if
fol - accusative
fau - dative
fejin - genitive
fetwoko - ablative
fepi - adessive (at/by)
feduken - pertingent and locative cases
feto - allative & illative (to, into, onto)
And some more words:
tewtex - a group of people, a nation, also 1 person but only in questions
ped - foot, end
man - hand
cap - head, beginning, title, heading
pedov - walk
manov - climb
capov - nod
nou - now
pre - before, earlier
poc - after, later
omninou - time
naso - dawn, early morning
neyta - day
nuno - dusk, evening
nekto - night
gan(m) - person (edited from ganmon)
And some affixes:
med- - middle
omni- - all
-mas - male
-dej - female
-neqos - neuter
-of - thing being possessed
However, the grammatical gender won't be applied to regular inanimate objects because I don't see the point in it. Instead, the gender of the object will be determined by the gender of the thing that owns it. If it has no owner or if you don't know anything about the owner, you simply do not mark it. Grammatical gender must be marked on every noun that has it. Names also have to have grammatical gender. Therefore, depending on how you see it, either all names are unisex or none of them are.
And for a continuation of a previous list on this page… more affixes!
-y - adjectival suffix, used exactly how it is in English.
-go - adverbial suffix, for verbs or adjectives to adverbs. (also this is from Navajo but you can't stop me from doing it I stopped listing the etymology ages ago)
-menet - process

interesting things you can do in conilingua now:

omninoumenet - a word meaning “the flow of time” or something along those lines (lit. “time process”)
anexian, bahuxian - bajillion (bahuxian sounds like bajillion a little bit)
pedovgo - adverb meaning “moving as if it is walking”
pre nou - past
poc nou - future

Animals (names based on the animal's scientific name)

feilos - any cat
canik - any dog
vulpes - any fox
ekwos - any horse
sos - any pig (changed a bit to avoid people making amogus memes)
ornito - any bird

Generic Places

kasa - house
lito - bed

Do we have a dictionary of every conilingua word yet?
(edit: I mean an updated document of it posted somewhere, not just comments)

Actually, I just copied all the words and affixes into a google docs, so here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1T9ELlhXgqPq_OmWVj1fHoKa-MqJPzDh6n3YN0Fa4g9k/edit?usp=sharing

Btw, I have a few additions of my own now:

ne- / n- (ne- before a consonant, n- before a vowel) - negative (can negate adjectives, verbs, and even possibly nouns); from Conilingua ne ‘no’
banc - good; from bien (spanish), buono (italian), and accha (hindi)
knasse - know; from know (english spelling), connaitre (french), and wissen (german)
sevar - see; from see (english), sehen (german), ver (spanish), voir (french)
kroc - scratch (I mean, why don't we have this yet?); from scratch (english), kharoch (hindi), escrache (spanish)
projana - project (necessary for scratch); from pariyojana (hindi), project (english), proyecto (spanish)

more words so i can do @randomguyboi's translation challenge:

these are placeholders until we can find better words

air: aera
wave: weva
sphere: sfero
cube: kubi
circle: serkol

flat: pato
opposite of flat: nepato

eat: manjo

can somebody please compile a list of all the things that have changed since the last official update by me? So I can make it official?

randomguyboi wrote:

can somebody please compile a list of all the things that have changed since the last official update by me? So I can make it official?

maybe

all changes:

Animals (names based on the animal's scientific name)

feilos - any cat
canik - any dog
vulpes - any fox
ekwos - any horse
sos - any pig (changed a bit to avoid people making amogus memes)
ornito - any bird

Generic Places

kasa - house
lito - bed

ne- / n- (ne- before a consonant, n- before a vowel) - negative (can negate adjectives, verbs, and even possibly nouns); from Conilingua ne ‘no’
banc - good; from bien (spanish), buono (italian), and accha (hindi)
knasse - know; from know (english spelling), connaitre (french), and wissen (german)
sevar - see; from see (english), sehen (german), ver (spanish), voir (french)
kroc - scratch (I mean, why don't we have this yet?); from scratch (english), kharoch (hindi), escrache (spanish)
projana - project (necessary for scratch); from pariyojana (hindi), project (english), proyecto (spanish)

air: aera
wave: weva
sphere: sfero
cube: kubi
circle: serkol

flat: pato
opposite of flat: nepato

eat: manjo

also: i want to change <ekwos> to <eqos>

-nvm i removed this because it was kind of dumb-

but i suggest “h” as an allophone of <j>

Redstone1080 wrote:

randomguyboi wrote:

can somebody please compile a list of all the things that have changed since the last official update by me? So I can make it official?

maybe

all changes:

Animals (names based on the animal's scientific name)

feilos - any cat
canik - any dog
vulpes - any fox
ekwos - any horse
sos - any pig (changed a bit to avoid people making amogus memes)
ornito - any bird

Generic Places

kasa - house
lito - bed

ne- / n- (ne- before a consonant, n- before a vowel) - negative (can negate adjectives, verbs, and even possibly nouns); from Conilingua ne ‘no’
banc - good; from bien (spanish), buono (italian), and accha (hindi)
knasse - know; from know (english spelling), connaitre (french), and wissen (german)
sevar - see; from see (english), sehen (german), ver (spanish), voir (french)
kroc - scratch (I mean, why don't we have this yet?); from scratch (english), kharoch (hindi), escrache (spanish)
projana - project (necessary for scratch); from pariyojana (hindi), project (english), proyecto (spanish)

air: aera
wave: weva
sphere: sfero
cube: kubi
circle: serkol

flat: pato
opposite of flat: nepato

eat: manjo

also: i want to change <ekwos> to <eqos>

Alright.
Officialized changelog
ALLOPHONES:
for j, /h/ is now an allophone.
SPELLING:
because /h/ is an allophone of /j/, the letter <h> will only be used at the end of words in place of <j>.
<x> and <kj> are now interchangeable.
<i> and <u> are now interchangeable with <j> and <w> after another vowel.
<j> and <y> are switched (j is the normal, y is in front)
VOCABULARY:
felios - domesticated cat
kunis - domesticated dog
xulp - fox
eqos - horse (so now “which horse quality” is a tongue twister (qos qosijeqos)
sos - pig
pleuketi - bird
IN PROGRESS

I had an idea.
Colo(u)r names!
red - roxo, rojo, rogo
yellow - heo, jeo
grue - bevuto

'light' in the context of colo(u)rs: -(i)ke (from CL ‘ketin’)
'dark' in the context of colo(u)rs: -(a)ga (from CL ‘gata’)
for these suffixes we delete the final syllable of the word
for the colo(u)rs black and white the suffixes are used on their own

pink - roke
green - bevuga
blue - bevuke

also mix colo(u)rs by joining them with -:
roxo-heo - orange
bevuga-bevuke - teal
roxo-bevuke - purple
… and so on.

this system seems to fit Conilingua's overall kind of gimmick about building words on your own. i kind of enjoy it.
we need to be careful not to make it hyperoligosynthetic tho.

oh yeah more animal names too
monkey - sinhi, singi, sengi
lion - leo


CL = Conilingua (if we get an ISO code this would be it)

New words:

• gwero - war/conflict
  
• komens - start, commence
  
• flojo - flower
  
• pejotin - flower petal
  
• tree - arbo
  
• kitibo - any plant (derived from ‘ketin’ + ‘arbo’)
  
• live - vizo
  

Cardinal directions:

• norgen - north
  
• orienten - east
  
• souten - south
  
• ozien - west
  

Names of the months:

• Zanvie - January
  
• Febuaru - February
  
• Marca - March
  
• Avrilo - April
  
• Mei - May
  
• Zun - June
  
• Zulan - July
  
• Auts - August
  
• Secober - September
  
• Tecober - October
  
• Unlifober - November
  
• Dekanober - December
  

New affixes:

• -(d)on - noun-ification suffix
  

For toponyms (yes thats a word I looked it up), we'll just use what the place calls itself in its native language, but reduced to one or two syllables, feed that through a robust system to make it Conilingua-compatible, then add -ia/-ya. Here are some examples:

• France: Frankia
  
• Canada: Kanadia
  
• USA: Amerikia-fepi-Norgen (This one translates literally as “America at North”)
  
• Africa: Afrikya
  
• Japan: Niponia
  
• Russia: Rosiya
  
• Ukraine: Ukrania
  

(I suggest a revision to ‘-of’ to make it ‘-(s)of’)

Bahuxian proyanasof Kroc.

Countless projects of Scratch.

ded thred xdddd

jk but we need to revive this

…idk if this is necroposting

Sudania-Souten wesan merogisuk-kanikauk fepi Afrikia. Pre wesan Sudania-Souten, Sudania-Souten qe Sudania wesan semmerogisuk-kanikauk. Sudania zales deo poc gwero, qe nou Sudania fepi souten wesan Sudania-Souten.

Lit. South Sudan is border.INANIMATE-container.INANIMATE Africa.ADE. Before is South Sudan, South Sudan and Sudan is same-border.INANIMATE-container.INANIMATE. Sudan become two after conflict, and now Sudan.ADE south is South Sudan.

Better translation: South Sudan is a country in Africa. Before South Sudan existed, it was just part of Sudan. After a conflict, Sudan split into Sudan and South Sudan.

Help me improve this please

Everything above is confirmed

Phonology & Romanization:
a-a~æ~ɑ~ɐ~ɒ
b-b
c-tʃ~ʃ
d-d
e-e~ø~ɛ~ə
f-f~v
g-g
h-h
i-i~y~ɪ~ʏ
k-k
l-l~ɫ~ʟ
m-m
n-n
o-o~ɔ~ʌ
p-p
q-kʷ
r-whatever rhotic
s-s~ts
t-t
u-ʉ̟~u~ʊ~ʊ̈
v/w-w~ʋ
x-x~ɣ~kʰ
y/j-j
z-z~dz~dʒ~ʒ

<v> is only used in loanwords where it was used
<j> is used when /j/ is in front of a vowel. Otherwise, you use <y>
<l> is for before vowels UNLESS there is a consonant before it. <r> is everywhere else.

Phonotactics:
Vowels from different syllables may not be next to each other in pronunciation (e.g. no <aei> (suggestion from @mybearworld)
Vowels that are the same from different syllables, when next to each other, merge into long vowels. This merged syllable still counts as two syllables, however, and a triple-long or quadruple-long vowel cannot exist.
Diphthongs are allowed. The diphthongs allowed are: <ai, ao, ia, io, oa, oi, oe, ou, ue, ua, ea, ei, eo, eu>
no /w/ or /j/ in the onset.
If three consecutive syllables have the same vowel, the third gets deleted. If four consecutive syllables have the same vowel, however, every other vowel gets changed to the next one on this list:i/u>o>e>a>u
Grammar:
-please recommend more stuff here-
Languages we can borrow from:
English
Spanish
French
German
Russian
Irish
Mandarin Chinese
Japanese
Hindi
Icelandic
Latin
Greek
Sanskrit
Proto-Germanic
Proto-Celtic
Old Church Slavonic (if you can’t find anything on it just pretend OCS is Bulgarian and roll with it)
Specifically evolved PIE words
Some Words:
and affixes, sorted by the position they are in the word (e.g. prefixes before infixes or circumfixes before suffixes)
And for a few common toponyms:
Amerika-fepi-Bora (fejin Bahupars) - (United States of) America (USA would be ABB)
Feransia - France
Doicia - Germany
Kanadia - Canada
Nihonia - Japan
Sunkwoya - China
Rosiya - Russia
Ukrajia - Ukraine

The Conilinguan Calendar System
First: March 20-April 20th
Second: April 20th-May 21st
Third: May 21st- June 21st
Fourth: June 21st-July 22nd
Fifth: July 22nd-August 22/23
Sixth: August 22/23- September 22/23
Seventh: September 22/23-October 22/23
Eighth: October 22/23-November 21/22
Ninth: November 21/22-December 21/22
Tenth: December 21/22-January 20/21
Eleventh: January 20/21-February 18/19
Twelfth: February 18/19- March 20th
Leap years are the same years as leap years in the Gregorian calendar. The only difference between the two calendars is where the leap year is added.
Some famous dates:
July 4th=Cahermenur Dekana-unu (5th month, 13th day)