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A 10nm intel = 7nm TSMC. (10nm intel has terrible yields though so it doesn't really matter.)They've been stuck on 14 nm for 6 years now come on! Intel is doing really badly right now. Struggling to beat the WEAKEST m-series chip, the M1.
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Oh, and it has 20 threads. There have been leaked benchmarks of the 14 core Intel Alder Lake CPU. (They may not be true as they're leaks.) It includes six Golden Cove cores and eight Gracemon cores. However, they lose to both M1 AND the AMD Ryzen 7 5800H. The great thing about M1 is its single-core performance. If Apple can make it scale well they can create a ridiculous chip.
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My dad might get the m1x 16in macbook pro when it comes out. He has a really good macbook pro right now but it's nothing compared to his m1 ipad pro or my mom's m1 macbook air. And I just have an old mid 2015 macbook pro
Edit: said imac instead of macbook air
Edit: said imac instead of macbook air
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The 2015 ones are really good! My dad might get the m1x 16in macbook pro when it comes out. He has a really good macbook pro right now but it's nothing compared to his m1 ipad pro or my mom's m1 imac. And I just have an old mid 2015 macbook pro
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Wow! Discuss about Apple M1 and upcoming Apple M series chipsets here!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_M1
https://www.apple.com/in/newsroom/2020/11/apple-unleashes-m1/
I use an M1 MacBook Air, specs —
16GB RAM (LPDDR4)
8 core CPU (4 efficiency cores, 4 high performance cores)
8 core GPU
it's extremely fast and snappy for anything a 13 year old non-gamer needs
History -In 2004, Apple announced their own custom silicon for the iPhone and iPad. They named it the A4. Over the years they made new chips for their iPhones and iPads. They've made chips from the A4 to A14. In between, they've had things like A5X, A12X, and A12Z. These in-between chips had more CPU cores, GPU cores, and things like more ram. However, things like A12X had the same type of cores as A12. The X and Z chips are always the same generation, they're just an extension to that generation's chip. Usually, these extended chips were for the iPad Pro. New generations of chips (eg. A5, A6) got more efficient and more powerful. The core count is RARELY changed. At the point of A14, Apple had 11+ years of experience with making new generations and extensions to those generations. They scaled A14 up to M1. (Even though it really is just an A14X.) They added two firestorm cores and 4 GPU cores to the M1. The M1 also had Mac-specific IPs, slightly higher clock speeds, and more ram. This led to the 8 core CPU, 8 core GPU, 8-16 GB of ram M1 chip. Apple has 11+ years to perfect their chips and we ended up with M1.
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They are, but I often have like 15+ tabs open and the fans are going full speed. At 25-35 tabs the computer starts not running as fastThe 2015 ones are really good! My dad might get the m1x 16in macbook pro when it comes out. He has a really good macbook pro right now but it's nothing compared to his m1 ipad pro or my mom's m1 macbook air. And I just have an old mid 2015 macbook pro
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I doubt the M1 will run at full speed with that many tabs open though…They are, but I often have like 15+ tabs open and the fans are going full speed. At 25-35 tabs the computer starts not running as fastThe 2015 ones are really good! My dad might get the m1x 16in macbook pro when it comes out. He has a really good macbook pro right now but it's nothing compared to his m1 ipad pro or my mom's m1 macbook air. And I just have an old mid 2015 macbook pro
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The wall street journal says:I doubt the M1 will run at full speed with that many tabs open though…They are, but I often have like 15+ tabs open and the fans are going full speed. At 25-35 tabs the computer starts not running as fastThe 2015 ones are really good! My dad might get the m1x 16in macbook pro when it comes out. He has a really good macbook pro right now but it's nothing compared to his m1 ipad pro or my mom's m1 macbook air. And I just have an old mid 2015 macbook pro
Fifty browsing tabs? Not at a peep or a degree above 80 Fahrenheit on either M1-powered system. The Intel-powered Air? Thirty-five tabs got its fans revving, and it hit 93 degrees.
How about 65 tabs? The M1-powered Air was still cool and quiet, though it began showing signs of sluggish scrolling and tab switching. The Intel-powered 13-inch MacBook Pro powered up its fan at around 75 tabs. At a whopping 100 tabs—which no sane human could ever navigate—the M1-powered Pro was quiet as a mouse and scrolling pages smoothly. Even when I threw in a Zoom call, it kept silent. I finally got the new MacBook Pro’s fan to kick on, with a temperature of 98 degrees, when playing “Rise of Tomb Raider” while simultaneously exporting a 4K video in Adobe Premiere and running some Chrome tabs in the background.
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Fair, but that's pretty hot. (also, why do you need 35 tabs lol)The wall street journal says:I doubt the M1 will run at full speed with that many tabs open though… They are, but I often have like 15+ tabs open and the fans are going full speed. At 25-35 tabs the computer starts not running as fastFifty browsing tabs? Not at a peep or a degree above 80 Fahrenheit on either M1-powered system. The Intel-powered Air? Thirty-five tabs got its fans revving, and it hit 93 degrees.
How about 65 tabs? The M1-powered Air was still cool and quiet, though it began showing signs of sluggish scrolling and tab switching. The Intel-powered 13-inch MacBook Pro powered up its fan at around 75 tabs. At a whopping 100 tabs—which no sane human could ever navigate—the M1-powered Pro was quiet as a mouse and scrolling pages smoothly. Even when I threw in a Zoom call, it kept silent. I finally got the new MacBook Pro’s fan to kick on, with a temperature of 98 degrees, when playing “Rise of Tomb Raider” while simultaneously exporting a 4K video in Adobe Premiere and running some Chrome tabs in the background.
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What about the fanless MacBook air?The wall street journal says: I doubt the M1 will run at full speed with that many tabs open though…Fifty browsing tabs? Not at a peep or a degree above 80 Fahrenheit on either M1-powered system. The Intel-powered Air? Thirty-five tabs got its fans revving, and it hit 93 degrees.
How about 65 tabs? The M1-powered Air was still cool and quiet, though it began showing signs of sluggish scrolling and tab switching. The Intel-powered 13-inch MacBook Pro powered up its fan at around 75 tabs. At a whopping 100 tabs—which no sane human could ever navigate—the M1-powered Pro was quiet as a mouse and scrolling pages smoothly. Even when I threw in a Zoom call, it kept silent. I finally got the new MacBook Pro’s fan to kick on, with a temperature of 98 degrees, when playing “Rise of Tomb Raider” while simultaneously exporting a 4K video in Adobe Premiere and running some Chrome tabs in the background.
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I use over 100 on a low-end laptop.Fair, but that's pretty hot. (also, why do you need 35 tabs lol)The wall street journal says:I doubt the M1 will run at full speed with that many tabs open though… They are, but I often have like 15+ tabs open and the fans are going full speed. At 25-35 tabs the computer starts not running as fastFifty browsing tabs? Not at a peep or a degree above 80 Fahrenheit on either M1-powered system. The Intel-powered Air? Thirty-five tabs got its fans revving, and it hit 93 degrees.
How about 65 tabs? The M1-powered Air was still cool and quiet, though it began showing signs of sluggish scrolling and tab switching. The Intel-powered 13-inch MacBook Pro powered up its fan at around 75 tabs. At a whopping 100 tabs—which no sane human could ever navigate—the M1-powered Pro was quiet as a mouse and scrolling pages smoothly. Even when I threw in a Zoom call, it kept silent. I finally got the new MacBook Pro’s fan to kick on, with a temperature of 98 degrees, when playing “Rise of Tomb Raider” while simultaneously exporting a 4K video in Adobe Premiere and running some Chrome tabs in the background.
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Yeah, the M1 chip will destroy something that's 6 years old. So will the m1x to the m1 in a couple of months. That wasn't my point. I use over 100 on a low-end laptop.
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I know. And over 100 makes 5fps.Yeah, the M1 chip will destroy something that's 6 years old. So will the m1x to the m1 in a couple of months. That wasn't my point. I use over 100 on a low-end laptop.
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Why do you need that many tabs lol. The M1 can handle SO many tabs. It has the highest browser rating I've ever seen.I know. And over 100 makes 5fps.Yeah, the M1 chip will destroy something that's 6 years old. So will the m1x to the m1 in a couple of months. That wasn't my point. I use over 100 on a low-end laptop.
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I am buying an M-series Mac as soon as I am 18.Why do you need that many tabs lol. The M1 can handle SO many tabs. It has the highest browser rating I've ever seen.I know. And over 100 makes 5fps.Yeah, the M1 chip will destroy something that's 6 years old. So will the m1x to the m1 in a couple of months. That wasn't my point. I use over 100 on a low-end laptop.
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Does anyone think Apple will cool the Macbook Air in the next generations to come?
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No. Does anyone think Apple will cool the Macbook Air in the next generations to come?
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I've done it. https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/post/5531087Ok! I may format it better later since it's kind of a mess now.
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Wouldn't Apple be worried that the Macbook Air will throttle?No. Does anyone think Apple will cool the Macbook Air in the next generations to come?
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What?ayyy my dad have ASus but im not allowed to use itThey will soon, with M1X ( If Apple can make it scale well they can create a ridiculous chip.hopefully lol)!Yep! The great thing about M1 is its single-core performance.
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