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GuitarGuyPlayz
Scratcher
100+ posts

Scratchedia - The Internet on Scratch, that's safe (Applications Closed)

IGABMS wrote:

Real_WeBino wrote:

Real_WeBino wrote:

xouzouris wrote:

IGABMS wrote:

xouzouris wrote:

kkidslogin wrote:

xouzouris wrote:

kkidslogin wrote:

xouzouris wrote:

kkidslogin wrote:

xouzouris wrote:

IGABMS wrote:

OK y'all!

I'm back!

I have decided that I am a little confused. Sorry for converting it to annoyance
My questions:
Has anyone seen my post(s) about just using a data transfer variable?
Why do we need hosting? Can't Scratch handle this?
Well, it would be better than the scratch cloud variables. They are pretty slow and can only change like once a second.
They actually change about 10 times a second, so a single cloud variable using my string-to-numbers conversion can send 1280 characters in a second.

xouzouris wrote:

But even if we use the scratch cloud vars, we are going to need a “host” computer to handle user requests and such. We can use my Raspberry Pi for that.
We don't. Each client can look for requests, as in my Scratchedia. When a client finds a message directed to it, it sends a reply, usually a webpage or a 4XX error. If the message is not directed to the last client to scan the cloud variables, it is simply ignored by the client. Hence, no need for a server. After all, website requests are relatively few, even at cloud-variable speed. If it gets a lot of pings, we can add more last_client_id and last_client_data variables so more requests can go through at once.
So what you're saying is that it can be peer-to-peer?
Yes. (if PTP is what I think it is)
PTP is there's no central computer (server) to handle other computer's requests. All computers involved communicate directly. This was commonly used in 3D shooters from the late 1990's to the early 2000's since dedicated servers were much more expensive and hard to maintain back then.
Then yes, it is PTP. (Also, it seems you cannot refresh a webpage… in Simple Scratchedia)
I just think that you can't store much data in cloud vars.
What I've been saying is there's no need to store anything for more than 2 seconds!
What? So you mean you can have a website for less than two seconds?
I think that you can code a website, and then go to any website buying place.
Or just type

Then just buy it from the website…
for about $20-25

I think Google Domains works too
Just use Freenom. Or get a bad subdomain.

I'm working on a webhosting company
oh yeah with .tk

Hello! I am GuitarGuy, more than a year and a half Scratcher, and owner of GZONE Gaming Company.(WeBino Software)

Roblox modeler, and Scratch coder. I have learned almost all the fundamentals of Scratch. And LOVE it! It taught me something that I didn't think I would want to learn!


RIP MEOWER
xMysticalCoder
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratchedia - The Internet on Scratch, that's safe (Applications Closed)

GuitarGuyPlayz wrote:

not a month, and its not euros either its american dollars
hes in ireland (or at least that's where he set his location), and they use euros.

IGABMS
Scratcher
100+ posts

Scratchedia - The Internet on Scratch, that's safe (Applications Closed)

Welll maybe just a website builder, I haven't decided!

If you respond to something I write here, I probably won't see it, so let me know on my profile! Feel free to ask me questions about PHP, Python, Scratch, HTML, CSS, or JavaScript there, too!
GuitarGuyPlayz
Scratcher
100+ posts

Scratchedia - The Internet on Scratch, that's safe (Applications Closed)

GuitarGuyPlayz wrote:

IGABMS wrote:

Real_WeBino wrote:

Real_WeBino wrote:

xouzouris wrote:

IGABMS wrote:

xouzouris wrote:

kkidslogin wrote:

xouzouris wrote:

kkidslogin wrote:

xouzouris wrote:

kkidslogin wrote:

xouzouris wrote:

IGABMS wrote:

OK y'all!

I'm back!

I have decided that I am a little confused. Sorry for converting it to annoyance
My questions:
Has anyone seen my post(s) about just using a data transfer variable?
Why do we need hosting? Can't Scratch handle this?
Well, it would be better than the scratch cloud variables. They are pretty slow and can only change like once a second.
They actually change about 10 times a second, so a single cloud variable using my string-to-numbers conversion can send 1280 characters in a second.

xouzouris wrote:

But even if we use the scratch cloud vars, we are going to need a “host” computer to handle user requests and such. We can use my Raspberry Pi for that.
We don't. Each client can look for requests, as in my Scratchedia. When a client finds a message directed to it, it sends a reply, usually a webpage or a 4XX error. If the message is not directed to the last client to scan the cloud variables, it is simply ignored by the client. Hence, no need for a server. After all, website requests are relatively few, even at cloud-variable speed. If it gets a lot of pings, we can add more last_client_id and last_client_data variables so more requests can go through at once.
So what you're saying is that it can be peer-to-peer?
Yes. (if PTP is what I think it is)
PTP is there's no central computer (server) to handle other computer's requests. All computers involved communicate directly. This was commonly used in 3D shooters from the late 1990's to the early 2000's since dedicated servers were much more expensive and hard to maintain back then.
Then yes, it is PTP. (Also, it seems you cannot refresh a webpage… in Simple Scratchedia)
I just think that you can't store much data in cloud vars.
What I've been saying is there's no need to store anything for more than 2 seconds!
What? So you mean you can have a website for less than two seconds?
I think that you can code a website, and then go to any website buying place.
Or just type

Then just buy it from the website…
for about $20-25

I think Google Domains works too
Just use Freenom. Or get a bad subdomain.

I'm working on a webhosting company
oh yeah with .tk
I think… Idk LOL thats what popped up when I searched XD

Hello! I am GuitarGuy, more than a year and a half Scratcher, and owner of GZONE Gaming Company.(WeBino Software)

Roblox modeler, and Scratch coder. I have learned almost all the fundamentals of Scratch. And LOVE it! It taught me something that I didn't think I would want to learn!


RIP MEOWER
xMysticalCoder
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratchedia - The Internet on Scratch, that's safe (Applications Closed)

IGABMS wrote:

Welll maybe just a website builder, I haven't decided!
{offtopic} lol ur post was exactly 1 second after mine {/offtopic}

GuitarGuyPlayz
Scratcher
100+ posts

Scratchedia - The Internet on Scratch, that's safe (Applications Closed)

xMysticalCoder wrote:

GuitarGuyPlayz wrote:

not a month, and its not euros either its american dollars
hes in ireland (or at least that's where he set his location), and they use euros.
ik that I was just saying its dollars not euros. It would be about 20.53 euros ($25)

Hello! I am GuitarGuy, more than a year and a half Scratcher, and owner of GZONE Gaming Company.(WeBino Software)

Roblox modeler, and Scratch coder. I have learned almost all the fundamentals of Scratch. And LOVE it! It taught me something that I didn't think I would want to learn!


RIP MEOWER
GuitarGuyPlayz
Scratcher
100+ posts

Scratchedia - The Internet on Scratch, that's safe (Applications Closed)

I wish CodingLand (THE FLIPPIN OWNER) would be more active, he is less active than random people that look at the forums lol

Hello! I am GuitarGuy, more than a year and a half Scratcher, and owner of GZONE Gaming Company.(WeBino Software)

Roblox modeler, and Scratch coder. I have learned almost all the fundamentals of Scratch. And LOVE it! It taught me something that I didn't think I would want to learn!


RIP MEOWER
Codingland
Scratcher
500+ posts

Scratchedia - The Internet on Scratch, that's safe (Applications Closed)

GuitarGuyPlayz wrote:

I wish CodingLand (THE FLIPPIN OWNER) would be more active, he is less active than random people that look at the forums lol
I am reading this right now and I am working on a project on the slowest computer in the universe


Hello! I'm Codingland! I like to make games and I love to code!
I have more siggy! Ctrl+Shift+down this text!

Play my latest game! CCM (Codingland's Cloud Multiplayer)


Play Cubit here! (click the image)




Fun Fact:
The first coding language I ever learned was Scratch



Codingland
Scratcher
500+ posts

Scratchedia - The Internet on Scratch, that's safe (Applications Closed)

xouzouris wrote:

IGABMS wrote:

What? So you mean you can have a website for less than two seconds?
YES!!!! That's what I have been saying! Everyone stores their website on a LOCAL variable!!!!! Then when they get a request it uploads, then when they recieve confirmation it was received it deleted!!!!!

Oh so if you leave the project, will the website go down?
Well then there would be almost no sites and even though I am trash at the cloud reading it means there will be more storage in the cloud, That space could be used for games and pictures witch with the current system would overload our storage. Also on June 9th and forward I will be more active because it will be my summer break.


Hello! I'm Codingland! I like to make games and I love to code!
I have more siggy! Ctrl+Shift+down this text!

Play my latest game! CCM (Codingland's Cloud Multiplayer)


Play Cubit here! (click the image)




Fun Fact:
The first coding language I ever learned was Scratch



xouzouris
Scratcher
100+ posts

Scratchedia - The Internet on Scratch, that's safe (Applications Closed)

Codingland wrote:

xouzouris wrote:

IGABMS wrote:

What? So you mean you can have a website for less than two seconds?
YES!!!! That's what I have been saying! Everyone stores their website on a LOCAL variable!!!!! Then when they get a request it uploads, then when they recieve confirmation it was received it deleted!!!!!

Oh so if you leave the project, will the website go down?
Well then there would be almost no sites and even though I am trash at the cloud reading it means there will be more storage in the cloud, That space could be used for games and pictures witch with the current system would overload our storage. Also on June 9th and forward I will be more active because it will be my summer break.
Well that's why I'm telling you that we need a central computer to store websites.

>> Head of Scratchedia <<

Scratchedia is the recreation of the
internet, on Scratch, that's safe!

Random Stuff:
My little cousin asked me why we can't make and run a nuclear reactor at home…

Don't forget to keep on Scratchin'
GuitarGuyPlayz
Scratcher
100+ posts

Scratchedia - The Internet on Scratch, that's safe (Applications Closed)

Codingland wrote:

GuitarGuyPlayz wrote:

I wish CodingLand (THE FLIPPIN OWNER) would be more active, he is less active than random people that look at the forums lol
I am reading this right now and I am working on a project on the slowest computer in the universe
Oof, what a Chromebook? Thats what I use when my mom is using her Windows 10. ITS SO SLOW. I don't work on projects on there.

Hello! I am GuitarGuy, more than a year and a half Scratcher, and owner of GZONE Gaming Company.(WeBino Software)

Roblox modeler, and Scratch coder. I have learned almost all the fundamentals of Scratch. And LOVE it! It taught me something that I didn't think I would want to learn!


RIP MEOWER
GuitarGuyPlayz
Scratcher
100+ posts

Scratchedia - The Internet on Scratch, that's safe (Applications Closed)

Codingland wrote:

xouzouris wrote:

IGABMS wrote:

What? So you mean you can have a website for less than two seconds?
YES!!!! That's what I have been saying! Everyone stores their website on a LOCAL variable!!!!! Then when they get a request it uploads, then when they recieve confirmation it was received it deleted!!!!!

Oh so if you leave the project, will the website go down?
Well then there would be almost no sites and even though I am trash at the cloud reading it means there will be more storage in the cloud, That space could be used for games and pictures witch with the current system would overload our storage. Also on June 9th and forward I will be more active because it will be my summer break.
So if its not finished by then it won't be started back til August?

Hello! I am GuitarGuy, more than a year and a half Scratcher, and owner of GZONE Gaming Company.(WeBino Software)

Roblox modeler, and Scratch coder. I have learned almost all the fundamentals of Scratch. And LOVE it! It taught me something that I didn't think I would want to learn!


RIP MEOWER
xouzouris
Scratcher
100+ posts

Scratchedia - The Internet on Scratch, that's safe (Applications Closed)

IGABMS wrote:

Real_WeBino wrote:

Real_WeBino wrote:

xouzouris wrote:

IGABMS wrote:

xouzouris wrote:

kkidslogin wrote:

xouzouris wrote:

kkidslogin wrote:

xouzouris wrote:

kkidslogin wrote:

xouzouris wrote:

IGABMS wrote:

OK y'all!

I'm back!

I have decided that I am a little confused. Sorry for converting it to annoyance
My questions:
Has anyone seen my post(s) about just using a data transfer variable?
Why do we need hosting? Can't Scratch handle this?
Well, it would be better than the scratch cloud variables. They are pretty slow and can only change like once a second.
They actually change about 10 times a second, so a single cloud variable using my string-to-numbers conversion can send 1280 characters in a second.

xouzouris wrote:

But even if we use the scratch cloud vars, we are going to need a “host” computer to handle user requests and such. We can use my Raspberry Pi for that.
We don't. Each client can look for requests, as in my Scratchedia. When a client finds a message directed to it, it sends a reply, usually a webpage or a 4XX error. If the message is not directed to the last client to scan the cloud variables, it is simply ignored by the client. Hence, no need for a server. After all, website requests are relatively few, even at cloud-variable speed. If it gets a lot of pings, we can add more last_client_id and last_client_data variables so more requests can go through at once.
So what you're saying is that it can be peer-to-peer?
Yes. (if PTP is what I think it is)
PTP is there's no central computer (server) to handle other computer's requests. All computers involved communicate directly. This was commonly used in 3D shooters from the late 1990's to the early 2000's since dedicated servers were much more expensive and hard to maintain back then.
Then yes, it is PTP. (Also, it seems you cannot refresh a webpage… in Simple Scratchedia)
I just think that you can't store much data in cloud vars.
What I've been saying is there's no need to store anything for more than 2 seconds!
What? So you mean you can have a website for less than two seconds?
I think that you can code a website, and then go to any website buying place.
Or just type

Then just buy it from the website…
for about $20-25

I think Google Domains works too
Just use Freenom. Or get a bad subdomain.

I'm working on a webhosting company
Wait, didn't you say you were like a 5th grader?

>> Head of Scratchedia <<

Scratchedia is the recreation of the
internet, on Scratch, that's safe!

Random Stuff:
My little cousin asked me why we can't make and run a nuclear reactor at home…

Don't forget to keep on Scratchin'
Codingland
Scratcher
500+ posts

Scratchedia - The Internet on Scratch, that's safe (Applications Closed)

GuitarGuyPlayz wrote:

Codingland wrote:

xouzouris wrote:

IGABMS wrote:

What? So you mean you can have a website for less than two seconds?
YES!!!! That's what I have been saying! Everyone stores their website on a LOCAL variable!!!!! Then when they get a request it uploads, then when they recieve confirmation it was received it deleted!!!!!

Oh so if you leave the project, will the website go down?
Well then there would be almost no sites and even though I am trash at the cloud reading it means there will be more storage in the cloud, That space could be used for games and pictures witch with the current system would overload our storage. Also on June 9th and forward I will be more active because it will be my summer break.
So if its not finished by then it won't be started back til August?
No, i will be on legit every day from June 9th and forward


Hello! I'm Codingland! I like to make games and I love to code!
I have more siggy! Ctrl+Shift+down this text!

Play my latest game! CCM (Codingland's Cloud Multiplayer)


Play Cubit here! (click the image)




Fun Fact:
The first coding language I ever learned was Scratch



xouzouris
Scratcher
100+ posts

Scratchedia - The Internet on Scratch, that's safe (Applications Closed)

GuitarGuyPlayz wrote:

Codingland wrote:

GuitarGuyPlayz wrote:

I wish CodingLand (THE FLIPPIN OWNER) would be more active, he is less active than random people that look at the forums lol
I am reading this right now and I am working on a project on the slowest computer in the universe
Oof, what a Chromebook? Thats what I use when my mom is using her Windows 10. ITS SO SLOW. I don't work on projects on there.
The school laptop takes about 15 seconds to open the windows menu.

>> Head of Scratchedia <<

Scratchedia is the recreation of the
internet, on Scratch, that's safe!

Random Stuff:
My little cousin asked me why we can't make and run a nuclear reactor at home…

Don't forget to keep on Scratchin'
Codingland
Scratcher
500+ posts

Scratchedia - The Internet on Scratch, that's safe (Applications Closed)

xouzouris wrote:

Codingland wrote:

xouzouris wrote:

IGABMS wrote:

What? So you mean you can have a website for less than two seconds?
YES!!!! That's what I have been saying! Everyone stores their website on a LOCAL variable!!!!! Then when they get a request it uploads, then when they recieve confirmation it was received it deleted!!!!!

Oh so if you leave the project, will the website go down?
Well then there would be almost no sites and even though I am trash at the cloud reading it means there will be more storage in the cloud, That space could be used for games and pictures witch with the current system would overload our storage. Also on June 9th and forward I will be more active because it will be my summer break.
Well that's why I'm telling you that we need a central computer to store websites.
Ok, So here is what I understand. There is a central computer that gives data to a user's computer. When the User leaves the data is sent back so the user doesn't use data if no one is on. Sites that are not visited are shutdown and therefore are not using any data. The central computer is basically running the entire thing


Hello! I'm Codingland! I like to make games and I love to code!
I have more siggy! Ctrl+Shift+down this text!

Play my latest game! CCM (Codingland's Cloud Multiplayer)


Play Cubit here! (click the image)




Fun Fact:
The first coding language I ever learned was Scratch



GuitarGuyPlayz
Scratcher
100+ posts

Scratchedia - The Internet on Scratch, that's safe (Applications Closed)

xouzouris wrote:

GuitarGuyPlayz wrote:

Codingland wrote:

GuitarGuyPlayz wrote:

I wish CodingLand (THE FLIPPIN OWNER) would be more active, he is less active than random people that look at the forums lol
I am reading this right now and I am working on a project on the slowest computer in the universe
Oof, what a Chromebook? Thats what I use when my mom is using her Windows 10. ITS SO SLOW. I don't work on projects on there.
The school laptop takes about 15 seconds to open the windows menu.
My school laptop is my Chromebook (what I am using right now) My Windows 10 is my moms and is way faster!

Hello! I am GuitarGuy, more than a year and a half Scratcher, and owner of GZONE Gaming Company.(WeBino Software)

Roblox modeler, and Scratch coder. I have learned almost all the fundamentals of Scratch. And LOVE it! It taught me something that I didn't think I would want to learn!


RIP MEOWER
IGABMS
Scratcher
100+ posts

Scratchedia - The Internet on Scratch, that's safe (Applications Closed)

xMysticalCoder wrote:

IGABMS wrote:

Welll maybe just a website builder, I haven't decided!
{offtopic} lol ur post was exactly 1 second after mine {/offtopic}
LOL!

If you respond to something I write here, I probably won't see it, so let me know on my profile! Feel free to ask me questions about PHP, Python, Scratch, HTML, CSS, or JavaScript there, too!
IGABMS
Scratcher
100+ posts

Scratchedia - The Internet on Scratch, that's safe (Applications Closed)

GuitarGuyPlayz wrote:

xouzouris wrote:

GuitarGuyPlayz wrote:

Codingland wrote:

GuitarGuyPlayz wrote:

I wish CodingLand (THE FLIPPIN OWNER) would be more active, he is less active than random people that look at the forums lol
I am reading this right now and I am working on a project on the slowest computer in the universe
Oof, what a Chromebook? Thats what I use when my mom is using her Windows 10. ITS SO SLOW. I don't work on projects on there.
The school laptop takes about 15 seconds to open the windows menu.
My school laptop is my Chromebook (what I am using right now) My Windows 10 is my moms and is way faster!
Do you have lots of tests? Everyone here is in 5th grade and they have tons of tests.

If you respond to something I write here, I probably won't see it, so let me know on my profile! Feel free to ask me questions about PHP, Python, Scratch, HTML, CSS, or JavaScript there, too!
IGABMS
Scratcher
100+ posts

Scratchedia - The Internet on Scratch, that's safe (Applications Closed)

xouzouris wrote:

IGABMS wrote:

Real_WeBino wrote:

Real_WeBino wrote:

xouzouris wrote:

IGABMS wrote:

xouzouris wrote:

kkidslogin wrote:

xouzouris wrote:

kkidslogin wrote:

xouzouris wrote:

kkidslogin wrote:

xouzouris wrote:

IGABMS wrote:

OK y'all!

I'm back!

I have decided that I am a little confused. Sorry for converting it to annoyance
My questions:
Has anyone seen my post(s) about just using a data transfer variable?
Why do we need hosting? Can't Scratch handle this?
Well, it would be better than the scratch cloud variables. They are pretty slow and can only change like once a second.
They actually change about 10 times a second, so a single cloud variable using my string-to-numbers conversion can send 1280 characters in a second.

xouzouris wrote:

But even if we use the scratch cloud vars, we are going to need a “host” computer to handle user requests and such. We can use my Raspberry Pi for that.
We don't. Each client can look for requests, as in my Scratchedia. When a client finds a message directed to it, it sends a reply, usually a webpage or a 4XX error. If the message is not directed to the last client to scan the cloud variables, it is simply ignored by the client. Hence, no need for a server. After all, website requests are relatively few, even at cloud-variable speed. If it gets a lot of pings, we can add more last_client_id and last_client_data variables so more requests can go through at once.
So what you're saying is that it can be peer-to-peer?
Yes. (if PTP is what I think it is)
PTP is there's no central computer (server) to handle other computer's requests. All computers involved communicate directly. This was commonly used in 3D shooters from the late 1990's to the early 2000's since dedicated servers were much more expensive and hard to maintain back then.
Then yes, it is PTP. (Also, it seems you cannot refresh a webpage… in Simple Scratchedia)
I just think that you can't store much data in cloud vars.
What I've been saying is there's no need to store anything for more than 2 seconds!
What? So you mean you can have a website for less than two seconds?
I think that you can code a website, and then go to any website buying place.
Or just type

Then just buy it from the website…
for about $20-25

I think Google Domains works too
Just use Freenom. Or get a bad subdomain.

I'm working on a webhosting company
Wait, didn't you say you were like a 5th grader?
LOL. Not really a company, a service, I'm not even sure if that's what I'll do. I think I'm gonna go create a site on the darknet (TOR)

If you respond to something I write here, I probably won't see it, so let me know on my profile! Feel free to ask me questions about PHP, Python, Scratch, HTML, CSS, or JavaScript there, too!

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