BosenChang wrote:

LankyBox01 wrote:

-Rex- wrote:

LankyBox01 wrote:

-Rex- wrote:

LankyBox01 wrote:

“Everyone has a chance” no they don't.

You will eventually have one of your projects if you put enough effort into them or if you are creative enough. My first featured project was featured ~3 years after I first joined Scratch.

It's been like 4.5 years and i still haven't got featured!

Put more effort into your projects then and work on improving your programming skills.

https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/398044615/
This is the project i put most effort in
I worked 6 days on it
and it only got 3 loves, 1 favourite, and 14 views

Advertise it in the Show and Tell forum, then.

No. let it grow by itself, i've already messed it up by now

I'm neutral on this, however, AS FOR THE MINORITY VOTE ISSUE:

There's multiple voting methods. Maybe you would have to rank each one, and each 1st place= 3 points 2nd place= 2 points 3rd place= 1 point. Most points wins. Maybe the least-voted for project gets disqualified, and the other two get voted on again. There's plenty of ways to fix this problem.

-Rex- wrote:

LankyBox01 wrote:

-Rex- wrote:

LankyBox01 wrote:

-Rex- wrote:

LankyBox01 wrote:

“Everyone has a chance” no they don't.

You will eventually have one of your projects if you put enough effort into them or if you are creative enough. My first featured project was featured ~3 years after I first joined Scratch.

It's been like 4.5 years and i still haven't got featured!

Put more effort into your projects then and work on improving your programming skills.

https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/398044615/
This is the project i put most effort in
I worked 6 days on it
and it only got 3 loves, 1 favourite, and 14 views

No offense, but how long did you spend each day working on that project? Because to me, that project seems like it couldn't have taken more than a few hours. There is a common phrase, “Work smarter, not harder”. If you work on improving your programming skills, you will be able to create much better projects in 6 days. If you treat programming as a continuous journey of self-improvement, your potential will greatly increase.

Also, 6 days might not be enough. Some of my projects have taken nearly a month to complete, and I'm currently working on a project that I started over a month ago.

You know, you have much more time on your hands! I had started it in the first day, just to discover the next day that i was't saved
I also only work on it 4 hours a day, if you didn't know, i am also busy working on other stuff!

Support, for some reason I pretty much only see animations featured, and I am a game person.

LankyBox01 wrote:

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You know, you have much more time on your hands! I had started it in the first day, just to discover the next day that i was't saved
I also only work on it 4 hours a day, if you didn't know, i am also busy working on other stuff!

If you spend 4 hours a day working on improving your programming skills (or 1 or 2 if you don't have enough time), you'll soon be able to re-create that project in about 4 hours.

I understand that not everyone has multiple hours a day to devote to Scratch. However, that doesn't mean you can't use your limited time more efficiently.

-Rex- wrote:

LankyBox01 wrote:

-snip-
You know, you have much more time on your hands! I had started it in the first day, just to discover the next day that i was't saved
I also only work on it 4 hours a day, if you didn't know, i am also busy working on other stuff!

If you spend 4 hours a day working on improving your programming skills (or 1 or 2 if you don't have enough time), you'll soon be able to re-create that project in about 4 hours.

I understand that not everyone has multiple hours a day to devote to Scratch. However, that doesn't mean you can't use your limited time more efficiently.

For example..?

LankyBox01 wrote:

-Rex- wrote:

LankyBox01 wrote:

-snip-
You know, you have much more time on your hands! I had started it in the first day, just to discover the next day that i was't saved
I also only work on it 4 hours a day, if you didn't know, i am also busy working on other stuff!

If you spend 4 hours a day working on improving your programming skills (or 1 or 2 if you don't have enough time), you'll soon be able to re-create that project in about 4 hours.

I understand that not everyone has multiple hours a day to devote to Scratch. However, that doesn't mean you can't use your limited time more efficiently.

For example..?

I created this pen platformer in under 2 hours. It has over 1000 blocks and the coding is reasonably efficient. (Block count is a rough way of measuring project complexity, but don’t focus too much on it. Focus on making good projects that challenge yourself.)

what if it's tied?

33% - Project A
33% - Project B
33% - Project C

scratchastroLOL wrote:

what if it's tied?

33% - Project A
33% - Project B
33% - Project C

A revote, I guess

scratchastroLOL wrote:

what if it's tied?

33% - Project A
33% - Project B
33% - Project C

…


wait another week! If still no, creating another poll!

Yeetoburro1 wrote:

scratchastroLOL wrote:

what if it's tied?

33% - Project A
33% - Project B
33% - Project C

A revote, I guess

That would be a little nuts.

I think they want featured to be about projects that they want to feature. They have specific goals with the projects they choose, to show the simple and complex uses of scratch, and encourage remixing and learning from the featured projects. The user control over featured comes in the form of proposing projects. “What the community is loving” (and the trending and popular explore sections) show things that users enjoyed, judging by loves and views. Also, the curated section is user-chosen. I know that none of these are exactly the way you suggest, by voting, but scratch does give users a lot of control over what the front page and explore show.

Also, if you choose 3 random projects, you usually don't get the types of projects worth featuring in any of them. I chose 3 projects completely at random from the last day and this is what I found.

• https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/415406808/ Most likely using a tutorial
  
• https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/415437529/ I'm not even sure…
  
• https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/414706912/ I would vote for this one, but the code is still just a few blocks
  

I guess they're fine, but in my opinion the quality seems lower that what gets featured currently. Users would probably be more discontent with what the options are than they are currently with what projects are chosen. Getting them from user recommendation is definitely better, and it doesn't remove users' current ability to propose projects.

A better way to get more types of projects and give more people an opportunity is to just feature projects more often. Currently it's about once per day, but with more projects being featured there can be more variety, and each project that some users don't like doesn't matter very much because of how many projects are being featured.

LydzWinry wrote:

There's multiple voting methods. Maybe you would have to rank each one, and each 1st place= 3 points 2nd place= 2 points 3rd place= 1 point. Most points wins. Maybe the least-voted for project gets disqualified, and the other two get voted on again. There's plenty of ways to fix this problem.

That's also not a perfect system.
Say that at the beginning, the votes are pretty much neck and neck between the three projects, but as the day progresses, more people vote for Project A and B than C, with A being slightly more popular. In the beginning, Project B would've been eliminated to C, and C to A, and thus A with the most votes wins. But now, C gets eliminated to B, and since all the C voters picked B as their second choice, this means A lost by getting more votes.

I was just trying to show how there's more than one way to vote…

LydzWinry wrote:

I was just trying to show how there's more than one way to vote…

And I was just trying to show that there isn't a perfect method.

Here’s a problem with choosing “random” projects, which may include bad projects:
If a user’s project randomly gets chosen and it loses by a large margin, that user may get discouraged (not ever being featured like most people is one thing, but being one of the few to get chosen and only getting 5% of the vote is something entirely different).

Another problem:
The project chosen may not be that user’s best work. They may have wanted another project of theirs to be chosen. Randomly choosing users would be a better solution, but would still be much worse than the current system (in my opinion), partly due to the first problem I pointed out. There’s also the problem that you can’t guarantee that a user will respond, so you’ll have to come up with some other metric (or decisionmaking process) to determine which of a user’s projects gets chosen.

Support for the general idea, there will be 99% less generic platformers, but the voting part seems a little… inefficient. Perhaps let the community pick, and then vote.

fdreerf wrote:

LydzWinry wrote:

I was just trying to show how there's more than one way to vote…

And I was just trying to show that there isn't a perfect method.

That's not entirely true. Sure, there's a theorem about that, but that's only for voting where you rank projects.

Ever heard of range voting? Basically, everyone rates each of the projects from..I don't know, one to ten? And then the project with the highest average rating wins. Not only do you know which ones they like, but how much they like them. I don't see any way range voting could go wrong.

Support if it uses range voting.

PkmnQ wrote:

fdreerf wrote:

LydzWinry wrote:

I was just trying to show how there's more than one way to vote…

And I was just trying to show that there isn't a perfect method.

That's not entirely true. Sure, there's a theorem about that, but that's only for voting where you rank projects.

Ever heard of range voting? Basically, everyone rates each of the projects from..I don't know, one to ten? And then the project with the highest average rating wins. Not only do you know which ones they like, but how much they like them. I don't see any way range voting could go wrong.

Support if it uses range voting.

Most likely, the majority of votes would be either one or ten.

This may increase the chance of getting featured, but decrease scratch reputation, letting low-effort, and maybe gross projects to get to the front page. Just follow the rules and maybe you get featured