Variable viewers

savaka

Please note this is kind of a placeholder suggestion that will get replaced by another if I ever decide to write that one.
One way to make variable viewers be able to do more things such as move:

make [variables v] do :: variables cstart
end

TheHockeyist

How would this work?

savaka

TheHockeyist wrote:
How would this work?

Like people commonly want to have a block to make a variable go to a position, you'd do:

make [my var v] do :: variables cstart
   go to x: (0) y: (100) // or whatever position you want
end

TheHockeyist

savaka wrote:
TheHockeyist wrote:
How would this work?
Like people commonly want to have a block to make a variable go to a position, you'd do:
make [my var v] do :: variables cstart
   go to x: (0) y: (100) // or whatever position you want
end

Why not

move variable to x: (0) y: (0) :: variables

?

Last edited by TheHockeyist (Aug. 11, 2014 14:38:31)

TimothyLawyer

Instead of adding extra blocks to manipulate variable watchers, one new block would be added to Scratch to treat a variable watcher as though it were a sprite (for the scope of the block).

instruct variable [a variable v] to :: variables cstart
end

So instead of

show variable [... v]

use

instruct variable [... v] to :: variables cstart
    show
end

For example

instruct variable [... v] to :: variables cstart
    hide
    go to x: (0) y: (170)
    show
end

Use existing blocks to do things with a variable (or list) watcher.

Edit: Replaced command with instruct. Some other possibilities: direct, tell, control, have…

Last edited by TimothyLawyer (Aug. 11, 2014 20:01:11)

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Braeden5454

make [variables v] do :: variables cstart //what would happen?
switch costume to [a costume v]
create clone of [myself v]
say [hello] for (3) secs
set [color v] effect to (a number)
end

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savaka

Braeden5454 wrote:

make [variables v] do :: variables cstart //what would happen?
switch costume to [a costume v]
create clone of [myself v]
say [hello] for (3) secs
set [color v] effect to (a number)
end

Nothing
Nothing
It would do that
It would do that

stickfiregames

The problem with this is that variables are not sprites. If you implemented the say or effect blocks then you would have to reprogram the watchers. Similarly watchers can do many things that do not have a block.

Although the alternative would require a huge number of blocks:

move [variable v] to x:(0) y:(0) :: variables
set [variable v] watcher to [small v] :: variables // small, large, slider
set [variable v] slider [min v] to (0) :: variables
// watchers like the timer or position would also need the first two

move [list v] to x:(0) y:(0) :: lists
set [list v] width to (100) :: lists
set [list v] height to (100) :: lists

Adding colours would also require

set [variable v] color to [#ff0000] :: variables
set [list v] color to [#ff0000] :: lists

Neither solution really feels ideal.

Last edited by stickfiregames (Aug. 12, 2014 17:03:13)

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DemCupcakesYo

stickfiregames wrote:
The problem with this is that variables are not sprites. If you implemented the say or effect blocks then you would have to reprogram the watchers. Similarly watchers can do many things that do not have a block.

Although the alternative would require a huge number of blocks:
move [variable v] to x:(0) y:(0) :: variables
set [variable v] watcher to [small v] :: variables // small, large, slider
set [variable v] slider [min v] to (0) :: variables
// watchers like the timer or position would also need the first two

move [list v] to x:(0) y:(0) :: lists
set [list v] width to (100) :: lists
set [list v] height to (100) :: lists
Adding colours would also require
set [variable v] color to [#ff0000] :: variables
set [list v] color to [#ff0000] :: lists
Neither solution really feels ideal.

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Support.

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danielhal

TheHockeyist wrote:
savaka wrote:
TheHockeyist wrote:
How would this work?
Like people commonly want to have a block to make a variable go to a position, you'd do:
make [my var v] do :: variables cstart
   go to x: (0) y: (100) // or whatever position you want
end
Why not
move variable to x: (0) y: (0) :: variables
?

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