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VocaloidsFOREVER
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Tips on learning Japanese?

I've been wanting to learn Japanese for a VER long time, but for now I only know a few words; certainly nothing that'll get me very far in a conversation.

So, if you speak Japanese as your prime or secondary language, do you think you could give me any tips? Links, words, and tricks are all appreciated, but PLEASE don't link me any “Learn A language in 3 days!” things. I don't believe those. Arigato!







That's one of the few I know OvO"
luiysia
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Tips on learning Japanese?

I don't speak japanese, but I've heard tae kim is a very good resource
not sure how helpful it would be for a total beginner, but you'll at least get the basics (hiragana, pronunciation, some grammar)

warning, though. japanese is one of the hardest languages to master for english speakers, along with chinese, arabic, and korean… I think it has to do with the grammar and the kanji.
ImagineIt
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Tips on learning Japanese?

luiysia wrote:

I don't speak japanese, but I've heard tae kim is a very good resource
not sure how helpful it would be for a total beginner, but you'll at least get the basics (hiragana, pronunciation, some grammar)

warning, though. japanese is one of the hardest languages to master for english speakers, along with chinese, arabic, and korean… I think it has to do with the grammar and the kanji.
Actually it says that Japanese is harder than others in that category as shown by the asterisk.
So basically Japanese is the hardest language to learn.
Eintity
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Tips on learning Japanese?

Try direct translation first by learning the words, and then learning the correct order. That's how I taught myself English. (I'm Russian )
luiysia
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Tips on learning Japanese?

ImagineIt wrote:

luiysia wrote:

I don't speak japanese, but I've heard tae kim is a very good resource
not sure how helpful it would be for a total beginner, but you'll at least get the basics (hiragana, pronunciation, some grammar)

warning, though. japanese is one of the hardest languages to master for english speakers, along with chinese, arabic, and korean… I think it has to do with the grammar and the kanji.
Actually it says that Japanese is harder than others in that category as shown by the asterisk.
So basically Japanese is the hardest language to learn.
the list doesn't show every single language there is (for instance, it leaves out navajo, a language so hard to learn that it was used for codes in ww2, and tuyuca, a language with over 50 grammatical genders), and there are so many languages that it's basically impossible to say one is absolutely the hardest. plus, it varies depending on the learner's skills.

also, I feel like this list is kind of biased about extremely popular languages - all 5 most difficult languages have a huge number of speakers, especially chinese. naturally there would be more people who find those languages hardest to learn, since there's more data on them and tons of people try to learn them.

anyway, I think these are the hardest languages to learn fluently. japanese, as far as I've heard, isn't super hard to at least get the basics of and be able to communicate simple ideas in; it's learning it as well as a native that's extremely hard.

Last edited by luiysia (Feb. 23, 2014 03:57:33)

ImagineIt
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Tips on learning Japanese?

luiysia wrote:

ImagineIt wrote:

luiysia wrote:

I don't speak japanese, but I've heard tae kim is a very good resource
not sure how helpful it would be for a total beginner, but you'll at least get the basics (hiragana, pronunciation, some grammar)

warning, though. japanese is one of the hardest languages to master for english speakers, along with chinese, arabic, and korean… I think it has to do with the grammar and the kanji.
Actually it says that Japanese is harder than others in that category as shown by the asterisk.
So basically Japanese is the hardest language to learn.
the list doesn't show every single language there is (for instance, it leaves out navajo, a language so hard to learn that it was used for codes in ww2, and tuyuca, a language with over 50 grammatical genders), and there are so many languages that it's basically impossible to say one is absolutely the hardest. plus, it varies depending on the learner's skills.

also, I feel like this list is kind of biased about extremely popular languages - all 5 most difficult languages have a huge number of speakers, especially chinese. naturally there would be more people who find those languages hardest to learn, since there's more data on them and tons of people try to learn them.

anyway, I think these are the hardest languages to learn fluently. japanese, as far as I've heard, isn't super hard to at least get the basics of and be able to communicate simple ideas in; it's learning it as well as a native that's extremely hard.
Well yeah, I probably shouldn't have exaggerated like that.
PKMNranger
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Tips on learning Japanese?

I know a little japanese. you really have to practice.
whenclickedifPKMNranger knows japanese=truethensayええ!私は日本語が話しています!
PKMNranger
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Tips on learning Japanese?

VocaloidsFOREVER wrote:

I've been wanting to learn Japanese for a VER long time, but for now I only know a few words; certainly nothing that'll get me very far in a conversation.

So, if you speak Japanese as your prime or secondary language, do you think you could give me any tips? Links, words, and tricks are all appreciated, but PLEASE don't link me any “Learn A language in 3 days!” things. I don't believe those. Arigato!







That's one of the few I know OvO"
i think its arigito not arigato (thank you) but idk
luiysia
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Tips on learning Japanese?

PKMNranger wrote:

VocaloidsFOREVER wrote:

I've been wanting to learn Japanese for a VER long time, but for now I only know a few words; certainly nothing that'll get me very far in a conversation.

So, if you speak Japanese as your prime or secondary language, do you think you could give me any tips? Links, words, and tricks are all appreciated, but PLEASE don't link me any “Learn A language in 3 days!” things. I don't believe those. Arigato!







That's one of the few I know OvO"
i think its arigito not arigato (thank you) but idk
it's arigatou or arigatō, if you want to be nitpicky

lol90 wrote:

here is a good acronym i made up:

D.O.N.T

as in

DOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooon't learn Japanese. EVER. It's pointless unless you live in Japan.
it kind of is true that japanese is used basically nowhere but japan, but it's not pointless to learn any language. it's good for your mind
(plus you can watch anime and listen to vocaloid songs more efficiently and effectively)
Demosthenes_
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Tips on learning Japanese?

Try to get a book that just focuses on the words in pronunciation- don't skip straight to writing the characters
luiysia
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Tips on learning Japanese?

also an idea is to learn the syllabaries, katakana and hiragana, as soon as possible because that means right off a) you know all the sounds that can be made and hopefully how to pronounce them and b) you can read like 60% of text, even if you don't know what it means. plus it's probably the easiest part of learning the language so you can get something done right off.
OgrelordShrek
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Tips on learning Japanese?

kawaii waifu desu desu
TheGeek56
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Tips on learning Japanese?

As a Japanese, make sure to learn hiragana then katakana, then kanji.
kaorun343
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Tips on learning Japanese?

I'm a native Japanese speaker.
krymat
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Tips on learning Japanese?

use google translate

ようなので、。
luiysia
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Tips on learning Japanese?

TheGeek56 wrote:

As a Japanese, make sure to learn hiragana then katakana, then kanji.
^^
StarscreamClone
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Tips on learning Japanese?

Well, I'm sure you know of the three Japanese writing systems (hiragana, katakana and kanji). Right now, what I'm working on is memorizing the katakana and hiragana tables, and I found this for kanji. With kanji, though, know that there are MANY to learn, and knowing the most common ones is a good idea.

As for speaking Japanese, the book I use is called Japanese Demystified (which is also useful for writing in Japanese).

Hope this helps a bit!
superigor9123
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Tips on learning Japanese?

VocaloidsFOREVER wrote:

I've been wanting to learn Japanese for a VER long time, but for now I only know a few words; certainly nothing that'll get me very far in a conversation.

So, if you speak Japanese as your prime or secondary language, do you think you could give me any tips? Links, words, and tricks are all appreciated, but PLEASE don't link me any “Learn A language in 3 days!” things. I don't believe those. Arigato!







That's one of the few I know OvO"
ええ!私は日本語が話しています!
njb14
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Tips on learning Japanese?

luiysia wrote:

I don't speak japanese, but I've heard tae kim is a very good resource
not sure how helpful it would be for a total beginner, but you'll at least get the basics (hiragana, pronunciation, some grammar)

Agreed. Tae Kim really helped me with Japanese.
njb14
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Tips on learning Japanese?

krymat wrote:

use google translate

ようなので、。


NEVER USE GOOGLE TRANSLATE D:

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