Today I got the idea of creating my own Scratch 4.0, which will once again be a new update for Scratch, but less official. I recently got my hands on the source code of Scratch's editor, and after studying it and trying to understand how it works, I felt like I could maybe code my own fan made Scratch update.

Currently I'm in the stage of planning. This includes design, new features, etc. I'm not really a creative person, which is why I'm making this post. I want to see what ideas you guys have, and maybe I can implement a few if I deem them worthy. I have a basic idea about how I want certain things to work, but if y'all have something that might be good, let me know.

This is also a good time to mention that this is not a solo project. If you feel like you may want to help with the creation of this, comment and I will most likely get to you. You should probably have experience with HTML, CSS, and JavaScript, but everybody is welcome, regardless of experience. If you're not interested in developing, you can still join as somebody who comes up with new ideas.

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Some ideas I have and will most likely implement are listed below:


-Variable and List folders
-Improved Backpack
-Custom CSS for profile pages
-JS code in projects for advanced users
-Improved editor interface, specifically with less blinding colours
-Custom themes, including the high demanded Dark Mode
-(Maybe) A secondary editor for 3D projects, which uses a different engine and different blocks than 2D projects
-Support for importing and exporting .exe's
-Support for .sb2 file types and keeping support for .sb3
-Xbox and ps4 controller support
-Optimization for larger scale projects
-Custom screen resolutions for projects
-Support for more audio file types
-A way to control specific clones
-To keep things consistently inconsistent, I'm gonna move the stage back to the left.


Some ideas for new blocks and block categories are listed below:


-JavaScript Block: When used in a project, it will call for a custom JS script and run it in the project. When placing the block, it's structured a bit like: {use script }
*Another variant is available that waits for the script to complete
-SuperFX Block. SuperFX was used on the SNES to render advanced effects on sprites. When placing the block, it's structured a bit like: {use SuperFX
*The block will have different parameters depending on the effect.
-Smooth Glide Block: Just like the normal glide block, but it uses a smoother transition effect. When placing the block, it's structured a bit like: {smooth glide (…) seconds to (x) (y)}
-Clone Variables: Add and edit variables given to specific clones. When placing the block, it's structured a bit like: {set to }
-Record Block: Records audio given by the player. When placing the block, it's structured a bit like: {record audio }
*There is another block that lets you use recorded audio. When placing the block, it's structured a bit like: {play recorded sound }
-(Maybe) Link Block: Projects using this block would be sent to a moderator for approval before being shared. It would be used to open different websites in your browser. You can also decide if you want it to open in a new tab or window. When placing the block, it's structured a bit like: {open link (input link) }


There are definitely more ideas for stuff, but those are a few.

More info about 3D will be released later if this gains traction.

There is no estimated release date, and there isn't a 100% chance it even will release. The ScratchTeam currently doesn't know about the idea but they can always take it down upon request. Hopefully this little project doesn't get removed or abandoned. If you have any criticism or ideas, please let me know, I would love to hear what y'all think about this.
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More updates to follow in the next few weeks. See ya.

-fake23-2 / SlipADip

Can you also add some sort of WebVR/WebXR extension for 3D project so that creators can create animations and games for VR?

Ok, if you add a Super FX block, you need to add Mode 7 blocks.

turn mode 7 effect [on v]:: looks stack

rotate mode 7 on  [z v] axis:: looks stack

Just imagine how fun a racing game would be!

I support this 100%! I would also love it if clones could recieve messages as well.

well hey, if you're able to fix the countless issues with 3.0, i'm in.

Victoriix wrote:

Can you also add some sort of WebVR/WebXR extension for 3D project so that creators can create animations and games for VR?

well, 3d scratch will never be added, as explained on the official list of rejected suggestions. it will not be added, because it would be too hard to understand for new scratchers

Boomer001 wrote:

well, 3d scratch will never be added, as explained on the official list of rejected suggestions. it will not be added, because it would be too hard to understand for new scratchers

This is a fan-made concept, not ideas for the Scratch team to implement. This is the Open Source Projects forum, not Suggestions forum.
(not trying to be rude, just trying to be helpful)

LexDoesGames wrote:

Boomer001 wrote:

well, 3d scratch will never be added, as explained on the official list of rejected suggestions. it will not be added, because it would be too hard to understand for new scratchers

This is a fan-made concept, not ideas for the Scratch team to implement. This is the Open Source Projects forum, not Suggestions forum.
(not trying to be rude, just trying to be helpful)

oh ok

3d would be hard to make, but aframe.io could help with that.

I would love to see this idea, heck, many ideas I wish (and many others) is in this, including the folders. although I wonder how importing .exe file extensions would work..

It would actually be cool if you could add all of these features but I don't tink it would be nessisary to make scratch become a 4.0 for these things.

I think you should call it something else to prevent confusion, but it sounds interesting.

Creating Scratch inside Scratch is a bit difficult, if you want to create a scratch 4.0 it would be better to use Javascript.

Gato_Do_Peixe wrote:

Creating Scratch inside Scratch is a bit difficult, if you want to create a scratch 4.0 it would be better to use Javascript.

He's creating it with Javascript.

I think I like this idea. Also, I could help with coding.

Hello,
I would like to contribute. Could you please let me know how could I do so? Thank you.

My idea is inter project variables baisacally you can for ex make a game where you earn money and another game where you spend the money

Support!! This is the best idea ever!!

I will like a LOT of features:
Radio/ Bluetooth
Other Connections (there is Micro:bit but I want more, more, MORE!!!)
Actually I would like a Mobile-friendly SCRATCH
Oh, but can you do, it,
@fake23-2
?????????????

If I were going to go through all the trouble of editing the Scratch source code, the number 1 thing that I would do
is to make it save the project as .apk file in a way that allows it to be signed for use in the Android app stores.

Scratch Team will never create such a feature, so it will have to be made by Scratchers for Scratchers.

This is the main thing to focus on. Android game creation. Signable .apk for app stores.
Everything else is just extra.

If that is not possible, then a close second would be to show what the Scratch blocks code would look like if it were Java or JavaScript along with a companion program to convert that code into a signable .apk file. It may require the Scratcher to learn a little of the Java and/or JavaScript language/s as not everything works the same so tweaks would need to be made, but surely it would be faster to prototype using Scratch if you did not have to re-code it all without a guide. This would serve as the guide and maybe if it was close enough, just editing a few things in the text code could produce a functional Android game without much fuss.