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TIXfan22
Scratcher
90 posts

Scratch 3.0 for Windows XP

I wish that everyone on Windows XP had access to Scratch projects. Is there a way they could have an only .js based editor, like Snap?
Because Snap! might take down Scratch if we do not start doing things.
EeveeLegends
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch 3.0 for Windows XP

Why would Scratch 3.0 support such an old version of Windows?
No support.
TIXfan22
Scratcher
90 posts

Scratch 3.0 for Windows XP

EeveeLegends wrote:

Why would Scratch 3.0 support such an old version of Windows?
No support.
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Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch 3.0 for Windows XP

I don't think this is likely if ever, to happen. See Scratch Team member @cheddargirl's take on Windows XP:

cheddargirl wrote:

Aside from the security risk, Windows XP is unfortunately just too old for either 2.0 or 3.0. You can opt to use the offline versions of Scratch - however given that your system is so old, there's a chance that the 2.0 and 3.0 offline versions might not work and you might be stuck with 1.4.

If you need online 3.0 features, though, I'm afraid you'll need to upgrade your computer because your current computer system will just not accept any incoming updates that require 3.0 (let alone of the HTML-heavy websites) to continue functioning. Most electronics stores usually do carry discs or drives for installing Windows 10; the price usually runs somewhere between $100 - $200 (USD), and older installations (Windows 7 or 8) will usually be cheaper. You are better off paying a few hundred bucks now for the sake of security versus the potential of losing thousands of dollars or having important information compromised if your computer gets broken into.
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CatsUnited
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch 3.0 for Windows XP

As for your second statement, Snap! wouldn't be able to overtake Scratch in popularity because “it supports Windows XP”. The number of people using XP as their primary or even as a secondary OS is very low as newer OSes are better security wise, feature wise and hardware wise. In the end, you're wanting Scratch to be able to run on web browsers that support a nearly 20 year old operating system that had it's support cut off from it's company over 5 years ago, and if you're still using XP for any work or as your primary operating system, it's definitely time to move on.

Also Snap! is much more technically advanced than Scratch and contains a bunch of features that wouldn't make sense in Scratch because they would be “too confusing” or “too complex”

Last edited by CatsUnited (Oct. 1, 2019 09:52:20)

TIXfan22
Scratcher
90 posts

Scratch 3.0 for Windows XP

CatsUnited wrote:

As for your second statement, Snap! wouldn't be able to overtake Scratch in popularity because “it supports Windows XP”. The number of people using XP as their primary or even as a secondary OS is very low as newer OSes are better security wise, feature wise and hardware wise. In the end, you're wanting Scratch to be able to run on web browsers that support a nearly 20 year old operating system that had it's support cut off from it's company over 5 years ago, and if you're still using XP for any work or as your primary operating system, it's definitely time to move on.

Also Snap! is much more technically advanced than Scratch and contains a bunch of features that wouldn't make sense in Scratch because they would be “too confusing” or “too complex”
Looks like I need to make my own Scratch?
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Truck11111
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch 3.0 for Windows XP

No support, Windows XP is an old and outdated operating system, Microsoft doesn't even support it.
ConfusedBiscuit
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch 3.0 for Windows XP

Truck11111 wrote:

No support, Windows XP is an old and outdated operating system, Microsoft doesn't even support it.
That pretty much sums it up right there.
venyanwarrior
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch 3.0 for Windows XP

ConfusedBiscuit wrote:

Truck11111 wrote:

No support, Windows XP is an old and outdated operating system, Microsoft doesn't even support it.
That pretty much sums it up right there.
Actually, the U.S. Military pays Microsoft hundreds of thousands of dollars per year to continue supporting Windows XP because that's what the pentagon uses.
CatsUnited
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch 3.0 for Windows XP

venyanwarrior wrote:

ConfusedBiscuit wrote:

Truck11111 wrote:

No support, Windows XP is an old and outdated operating system, Microsoft doesn't even support it.
That pretty much sums it up right there.
Actually, the U.S. Military pays Microsoft hundreds of thousands of dollars per year to continue supporting Windows XP because that's what the pentagon uses.
That's an exception though since the US Federal Government does have a ton of legacy computer equipment still in use dating back a few decades and they have the money, status and requirements to still be using old computer equipment.
colinmacc
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch 3.0 for Windows XP

I think the technical issue is none of the browsers that windows XP runs fully supports HTML5.

It’s hard enough finding a browser on vista that runs scratch, and even then not everything works properly!
8243874
Scratcher
100+ posts

Scratch 3.0 for Windows XP

I don't support, because Windows XP is old version of Windows. And, Scratch 3.0 supports only Windows 7, 8.1 and Windows 10
EeveeLegends
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch 3.0 for Windows XP

colinmacc wrote:

It’s hard enough finding a browser on vista that runs scratch, and even then not everything works properly!
I had a computer than ran Vista and used Google Chrome, used it when Scratch 3.0 came out and it worked fine but not on big projects (it just crashed on those projects), so it's really not that hard to find a browser that works.
colinmacc
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch 3.0 for Windows XP

EeveeLegends wrote:

colinmacc wrote:

It’s hard enough finding a browser on vista that runs scratch, and even then not everything works properly!
I had a computer than ran Vista and used Google Chrome, used it when Scratch 3.0 came out and it worked fine but not on big projects (it just crashed on those projects), so it's really not that hard to find a browser that works.

Key word being “properly”

Some vector images don't display, and last night when I tried it wouldn't recognise space key being pressed. I have a version of chrome and Firefox that both “sort of work” … Luckily it's not my main PC
ConfusedBiscuit
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch 3.0 for Windows XP

8243874 wrote:

I don't support, because Windows XP is old version of Windows. And, Scratch 3.0 supports only Windows 7, 8.1 and Windows 10
Scratch doesn't support Windows 7, at least not my old laptop
colinmacc
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch 3.0 for Windows XP

ConfusedBiscuit wrote:

8243874 wrote:

I don't support, because Windows XP is old version of Windows. And, Scratch 3.0 supports only Windows 7, 8.1 and Windows 10
Scratch doesn't support Windows 7, at least not my old laptop

Windows 7 is fine with the latest version of Chrome.
Ian-Stewart
Scratcher
500+ posts

Scratch 3.0 for Windows XP

8243874 wrote:

I don't support, because Windows XP is old version of Windows. And, Scratch 3.0 supports only Windows 7, 8.1 and Windows 10

Truck11111 wrote:

No support, Windows XP is an old and outdated operating system, Microsoft doesn't even support it.

EeveeLegends wrote:

Why would Scratch 3.0 support such an old version of Windows?
No support.
No support, because of the posts above. If you really need to use Scratch on a Windows XP computer, you can still download Scratch 1.4 offline editor.
TIXfan22
Scratcher
90 posts

Scratch 3.0 for Windows XP

Ian-Stewart wrote:

8243874 wrote:

I don't support, because Windows XP is old version of Windows. And, Scratch 3.0 supports only Windows 7, 8.1 and Windows 10

Truck11111 wrote:

No support, Windows XP is an old and outdated operating system, Microsoft doesn't even support it.

EeveeLegends wrote:

Why would Scratch 3.0 support such an old version of Windows?
No support.
No support, because of the posts above. If you really need to use Scratch on a Windows XP computer, you can still download Scratch 1.4 offline editor.
The Scratch 2 Offline Editor is still supported too….
TIXfan22
Scratcher
90 posts

Scratch 3.0 for Windows XP

Even though I'm using Windows 10 right now, I would love to enjoy Scratch 3.0 on my old Windows XP machine from 2006.

Considering the fact I'm going to downgrade my Windows 7 laptop to XP for speed purposes, since it will run much faster on that tiny
Core 2 Duo.

And Scratch 2.0 runs perfectly on Windows XP.

Last edited by TIXfan22 (Oct. 2, 2019 00:31:29)

ConfusedBiscuit
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch 3.0 for Windows XP

colinmacc wrote:

ConfusedBiscuit wrote:

8243874 wrote:

I don't support, because Windows XP is old version of Windows. And, Scratch 3.0 supports only Windows 7, 8.1 and Windows 10
Scratch doesn't support Windows 7, at least not my old laptop

Windows 7 is fine with the latest version of Chrome.
That laptops ancient >->

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