change [saturation v] effect by (25)
set [saturation v] effect to (0) // Saturation would be useful!

I support!

Support, especially with the new color picker using the hue/brightness/saturation setup as well.

The color picker in the costume editor and blocks with color input have a saturation slider, and now pen also has saturation, so it makes sense for saturation to also be in effects.

Support. This would be good for projects where a character might go into like a black and white world or something.

We have 2 out of 3 effects for hue, saturation, and lightness values. (HSL):

set [color v] effect to (0) // hue
set [brightness v] effect to (0) // lightness

So why not add:

set [saturation v] effect to (0) // saturation

As far as I know it shouldn't be hard to add.
It would be very good for stamp text engines.

Support.

Specifically, take a look at the project at https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/301883876/ . It supports 8 colors. It transforms a single set of foreground overlay sprites to any of the 8 colors. But to have arbitrary colors, there has to be the ability to transform it into any color. Fast Color Replacement is another suggestion that would allow arbitrary color transformation, where 1. find-and-replace of colors on a sprite and 2. linear transformation on RGB values is suggested. However saturation will naturally complete the hue and lightness settings, therefore allowing arbitrary HSL selection. (this is NOT the same as the HSV in the image editor color picker!)

A block idea:

set layer of [me v] to (0)

change layer of [me v] by (1)

(layer)

([layer v] of [Sprite1 v])

The sprite with bigger layer is shown in front of sprites with lower layer, like in Unity.

hedgehog_blue wrote:

The color picker in the costume editor and blocks with color input have a saturation slider, and now pen also has saturation, so it makes sense for saturation to also be in effects.

I really want a transparency slider in editor.

You can use certain blocks to change the saturation, but an easier way is to just go into the editor and change the saturation of sed costume

Huels wrote:

You can use certain blocks to change the saturation, but an easier way is to just go into the editor and change the saturation of sed costume

You may need to change saturation in-game to make animations.

BurnedCrystal wrote:

Scratcher1002 wrote:

BurnedCrystal wrote:

Scratcher1002 wrote:

I only half support as I did in said duplicate:

BurnedCrystal wrote:

Duplicate

Me wrote:

75%, just use the art editor if you want a greyscale game.

Isn't just for greyscale (I realize you know this)

I know, but all the things that this block accomplishes is already in the art editor.

This property is shared by the Brightness and Color effects (And you're also still wrong, the art editor still doesn't have a desaturate button- technically you still have to do that yourself)

We already have the libraries too :^

how many times have you posted this???

Huels wrote:

You can use certain blocks to change the saturation, but an easier way is to just go into the editor and change the saturation of sed costume

*coughs in the animators who need to change their part to a grayscale in the middle of their animations* Anyway, I support this suggestion!! I think it's a great idea!!

DadOfMrLog wrote:

And I'd like to see saturation control for the pen, too.
(See this project for custom blocks that provide hue, saturation and lightness control for the pen for now, until the Scratch devs give us built-in saturation control… pretty please )

However, I think one of the reasons it's not there now (both pen & sprite effects) is because many Scratchers would not understand what it means.
I'd be tempted to use a word like “greyness” instead, and have it be the reverse of saturation (so zero is the current default, and 100 would be totally grey, at which point the colour plays no part).

So:

set pen color to ()
set pen shade to () // why isn't this "brightness', like below?
set pen greyness to () //category=pen

set [color v] effect to ()
set [brightness v] effect to ()
set [greyness v] effect to ()

Note that the brightness effect is slightly different to the pen's “shade” block, in that it can both brighten (positive values) and darken (negative values) a costume. I wonder if that's why the name is different…?

To make it a pen block, you put :: pen stack // at the end.

garnetluvcookie wrote:

DadOfMrLog wrote:

And I'd like to see saturation control for the pen, too.
(See this project for custom blocks that provide hue, saturation and lightness control for the pen for now, until the Scratch devs give us built-in saturation control… pretty please )

However, I think one of the reasons it's not there now (both pen & sprite effects) is because many Scratchers would not understand what it means.
I'd be tempted to use a word like “greyness” instead, and have it be the reverse of saturation (so zero is the current default, and 100 would be totally grey, at which point the colour plays no part).

So:

set pen color to ()
set pen shade to () // why isn't this "brightness', like below?
set pen greyness to () //category=pen

set [color v] effect to ()
set [brightness v] effect to ()
set [greyness v] effect to ()

Note that the brightness effect is slightly different to the pen's “shade” block, in that it can both brighten (positive values) and darken (negative values) a costume. I wonder if that's why the name is different…?

To make it a pen block, you put :: pen stack // at the end.

An older version of scratchblocks had a different way of changing block colors. When the post was created 6 years ago, it was colored properly.

Well, i'm not sure about this idea, because if the saturation was about 100%, it would go off with a grey-ish colour. The grey-ish colour is the colour of saturation so there is already a provided way for it, here are some examples.

set pen color to [#465]

<touching color [#465] ?>

Which gives the saturation effect. But I kinda support this idea since it may be a 90% easier way to give the grey-ish effect by using the change ____ block. But you can already “make” your own saturation effect. Drag the dark colour to the right, and then drag the light colour to the left. Then drag the dark colour a little to the left, and you can see your own saturation colour. If you still don't understand me, look at this:

change [ saturation v] effect by (100) = [#465]

Although there is also a couple of ways to do the effect yourself, other than make the block. I feel like it's easier that way.

DadOfMrLog wrote:

And I'd like to see saturation control for the pen, too.
(See this project for custom blocks that provide hue, saturation and lightness control for the pen for now, until the Scratch devs give us built-in saturation control… pretty please )

However, I think one of the reasons it's not there now (both pen & sprite effects) is because many Scratchers would not understand what it means.
I'd be tempted to use a word like “greyness” instead, and have it be the reverse of saturation (so zero is the current default, and 100 would be totally grey, at which point the colour plays no part).

So:

set pen color to ()
set pen shade to () // why isn't this "brightness', like below?
set pen greyness to () //category=pen

set [color v] effect to ()
set [brightness v] effect to ()
set [greyness v] effect to ()

Note that the brightness effect is slightly different to the pen's “shade” block, in that it can both brighten (positive values) and darken (negative values) a costume. I wonder if that's why the name is different…?

Just saying you can change the colour of a block by adding ‘::’ and then a hex colour or the category in which the block would go in.
For example:
‘ set pen greyness to () ’ gives

set pen greyness to ()

Whereas
‘ set pen greyness to ()::pen ’ gives

set pen greyness to ()::pen

Oops, someone has already said that

CodingKing259 wrote:

DadOfMrLog wrote:

And I'd like to see saturation control for the pen, too.
(See this project for custom blocks that provide hue, saturation and lightness control for the pen for now, until the Scratch devs give us built-in saturation control… pretty please )

However, I think one of the reasons it's not there now (both pen & sprite effects) is because many Scratchers would not understand what it means.
I'd be tempted to use a word like “greyness” instead, and have it be the reverse of saturation (so zero is the current default, and 100 would be totally grey, at which point the colour plays no part).

So:

set pen color to ()
set pen shade to () // why isn't this "brightness', like below?
set pen greyness to () //category=pen

set [color v] effect to ()
set [brightness v] effect to ()
set [greyness v] effect to ()

Note that the brightness effect is slightly different to the pen's “shade” block, in that it can both brighten (positive values) and darken (negative values) a costume. I wonder if that's why the name is different…?

Just saying you can change the colour of a block by adding ‘::’ and then a hex colour or the category in which the block would go in.
For example:
‘ set pen greyness to () ’ gives

set pen greyness to ()

Whereas
‘ set pen greyness to ()::pen ’ gives

set pen greyness to ()::pen

Oops, someone has already said that

An older version of scratchblocks had a different way of changing block colors. When the post was created 6 years ago, it was colored properly.

This can be achieved by doing:

set [color] effect to ((1) / (0))

Enjoy!
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Sincerely & Best Regards,

@Rocket_Development

hedgehog_blue wrote:

The color picker in the costume editor and blocks with color input have a saturation slider, and now pen also has saturation, so it makes sense for saturation to also be in effects.

I don't understand why there's no saturation block either: support