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paws48
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Ok, let's be honest, you can do a lot of cool stuff with HTML. I don't see much of a reason why we can't use it in other text boxes around the site.
It could be basically the same as how the HTML works in the forums. Maybe lose the Scratch Blocks and bam. Perfect.

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No Support: 0

Last edited by paws48 (Nov. 14, 2018 17:11:10)

StrangeMagic32
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I don't know if the forums use HTML, but I know they use BBCode
But if I'm getting at this correctly what your saying is make
when green flag clicked
say [] for (2) secs
pen down
pen up
stamp
clear
into
when green flag clicked
say [] for (2) secs
pen down
pen up
stamp
clear
paws48
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HTML Code in Notes and Credits/Instructions/Profile

StrangeMagic32 wrote:

I don't know if the forums use HTML, but I know they use BBCode
But if I'm getting at this correctly what your saying is make
when green flag clicked
say [] for (2) secs
pen down
pen up
stamp
clear
into
when green flag clicked
say [] for (2) secs
pen down
pen up
stamp
clear
Nope, just in the text boxes the ability to use HTML.
StrangeMagic32
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HTML Code in Notes and Credits/Instructions/Profile

paws48 wrote:

-snip-
ah okay
Invisible_Factory
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HTML Code in Notes and Credits/Instructions/Profile

A very small portion of scratch really knows HTML, probably < 5% so it doesn't seem like it is worth the effort.
NilsTheBest
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Invisible_Factory wrote:

A very small portion of scratch really knows HTML, probably < 5% so it doesn't seem like it is worth the effort.
Where'd you learn that? :v
Invisible_Factory
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NilsTheBest wrote:

Invisible_Factory wrote:

A very small portion of scratch really knows HTML, probably < 5% so it doesn't seem like it is worth the effort.
Where'd you learn that? :v
Not saying the numbers exact. It seems many forum users know HTML but not many people use the forum (since the removal of the discuss button) so I estimated
NilsTheBest
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Invisible_Factory wrote:

NilsTheBest wrote:

Invisible_Factory wrote:

A very small portion of scratch really knows HTML, probably < 5% so it doesn't seem like it is worth the effort.
Where'd you learn that? :v
Not saying the numbers exact. It seems many forum users know HTML but not many people use the forum (since the removal of the discuss button) so I estimated
ok nvm then
--_Nova_--
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could you give us an example of some html that could be used? not sure exactly what you mean
XayCraft360
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HTML Code in Notes and Credits/Instructions/Profile

No Support, you could easily use JavaScript in it and make a mini-website
paws48
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--_Nova_-- wrote:

could you give us an example of some html that could be used? not sure exactly what you mean
For example, colored text, different sizes, and emoticons are all good examples of what I was thinking.
CKCG
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not exactly sure what you mean, but I think this could easily be abused. For example:

<script>alert(“Cookies are the best!”)</script>

(yes i know i didnt do the <html> stuff and <body> but i dont care)
probably could be used maliciously
--_Nova_--
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paws48 wrote:

--_Nova_-- wrote:

could you give us an example of some html that could be used? not sure exactly what you mean
For example, colored text, different sizes, and emoticons are all good examples of what I was thinking.
no, i have a sneaking suspicion you mean bbcode

here's this message: Hello! in bbcode vs html

bbcode
[b][i]Hello![/i][/b]

html
<html>
<body>
<b><i>Hello!</i></b>
</body>
</html>
(no, i don't care about accepted html programming styles)
TheAdriCoolManDude
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paws48 wrote:

--_Nova_-- wrote:

could you give us an example of some html that could be used? not sure exactly what you mean
For example, colored text, different sizes, and emoticons are all good examples of what I was thinking.
Isn't that BBCode? That is duplicate, but I can't go to it now since I'm on a tablet.
paws48
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TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

paws48 wrote:

--_Nova_-- wrote:

could you give us an example of some html that could be used? not sure exactly what you mean
For example, colored text, different sizes, and emoticons are all good examples of what I was thinking.
Isn't that BBCode? That is duplicate, but I can't go to it now since I'm on a tablet.
Well, I wasn't sure if it was HTML or BBC code. Thanks for clarifying. I'll take it down if it's a dupe.
--_Nova_--
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space_elephant
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CKCG wrote:

not exactly sure what you mean, but I think this could easily be abused. For example:

<script>alert(“Cookies are the best!”)</script>

(yes i know i didnt do the <html> stuff and <body> but i dont care)
probably could be used maliciously
So bas <script> tags then. I support.
TheAdriCoolManDude
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paws48 wrote:

TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

paws48 wrote:

--_Nova_-- wrote:

could you give us an example of some html that could be used? not sure exactly what you mean
For example, colored text, different sizes, and emoticons are all good examples of what I was thinking.
Isn't that BBCode? That is duplicate, but I can't go to it now since I'm on a tablet.
Well, I wasn't sure if it was HTML or BBC code. Thanks for clarifying. I'll take it down if it's a dupe.
Oops, my brain read it wrong. I think it might be dupe, but I'm not sure is what I meant. Oof.
dude341
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No support for obvious reasons. This would be a big security risk. In fact, I believe Scratch accidentally did allow HTML to be used in comments one time, I believe they had to go into maintenance mode, although that might just be my memory, but I'm pretty sure people were using it to redirect people to viruses when they went to their profile.

The forums use BBCode rather than HTML for this reason.

Semi-support for BBCode in comments though.
Sheep_maker
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I'm quite sure Scratch will just whitelist HTML elements and attributes (and CSS properties if they allow the style attribute/element), but there's always a way to abuse it somehow. It's a lot simpler to just use plain text or use the flawless BBCode from the forums.

A lot of Scratchers tend to learn HTML to prove that they're moving on from Scratch; this means that they'll try to make webpages in their descriptions, but most of their HTML won't work because of the whitelist, and they'll be disappointed.

It'll also be rather annoying when you actually want to use the less than or greater than symbols; most would just manually escape each character.

With JavaScript disabled, there's really no other reason to be teaching HTML, especially since it's such a simple language.

By allowing users to set different sizes, many will be inclined to either make tiny, hard-to-read (and thus inaccessible) text or set the font size such that each character is the size of the window due to the young audience. Likewise, by allowing users to set different colours, many users will be inclined to use light, pastel colours that do not contrast well with the white background, and thus is not accessible. Custom emoticons would allow users to upload/link to anything they want, including potentially inappropriate images.

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