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- project124
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Scratch Chess Engine Tournament - February 2018
Would you allow a python chess engine?It's as though GoK is unbeatable against other scratch engines. How is it against the level 1 stock-fish?
Actually Bonsai won the first tournament a year ago, GoK then went on to win the next two tournaments.
Scratch Chess - Game of Kings ONLINE
- ArnoHu
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Scratch Chess Engine Tournament - February 2018
Would you allow a python chess engine?It's as though GoK is unbeatable against other scratch engines. How is it against the level 1 stock-fish?
Actually Bonsai won the first tournament a year ago, GoK then went on to win the next two tournaments.
Scratch Chess - Game of Kings ONLINE
Sorry, no, that would be not a fair competition. Here is some more info why chess engines on Scratch have a clear technology-based disadvantage compared to other platforms: https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/post/2967632/
- project124
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100+ posts
Scratch Chess Engine Tournament - February 2018
To be honest, my engine takes a lot longer to go Ply 3 than your engine takes to go ply 6 on sulforousWould you allow a python chess engine?It's as though GoK is unbeatable against other scratch engines. How is it against the level 1 stock-fish?
Actually Bonsai won the first tournament a year ago, GoK then went on to win the next two tournaments.
Scratch Chess - Game of Kings ONLINE
Sorry, no, that would be not a fair competition. Here is some more info why chess engines on Scratch have a clear technology-based disadvantage compared to other platforms: https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/post/2967632/
- ArnoHu
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1000+ posts
Scratch Chess Engine Tournament - February 2018
To be honest, my engine takes a lot longer to go Ply 3 than your engine takes to go ply 6 on sulforousWould you allow a python chess engine?It's as though GoK is unbeatable against other scratch engines. How is it against the level 1 stock-fish?
Actually Bonsai won the first tournament a year ago, GoK then went on to win the next two tournaments.
Scratch Chess - Game of Kings ONLINE
Sorry, no, that would be not a fair competition. Here is some more info why chess engines on Scratch have a clear technology-based disadvantage compared to other platforms: https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/post/2967632/
Are you using bitboards and bitwise operations in Python? This can't be done in Scratch AFAIK. That alone is such a significant advantage for any other programming language.
- project124
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100+ posts
Scratch Chess Engine Tournament - February 2018
I'm completely re-writing my engine in C, but the main reason for the slowness was the fact I used a module that generated a move-list for me instead of doing it myselfTo be honest, my engine takes a lot longer to go Ply 3 than your engine takes to go ply 6 on sulforousWould you allow a python chess engine?It's as though GoK is unbeatable against other scratch engines. How is it against the level 1 stock-fish?
Actually Bonsai won the first tournament a year ago, GoK then went on to win the next two tournaments.
Scratch Chess - Game of Kings ONLINE
Sorry, no, that would be not a fair competition. Here is some more info why chess engines on Scratch have a clear technology-based disadvantage compared to other platforms: https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/post/2967632/
Are you using bitboards and bitwise operations in Python? This can't be done in Scratch AFAIK. That alone is such a significant advantage for any other programming language.
- ArnoHu
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1000+ posts
Scratch Chess Engine Tournament - February 2018
It's as though GoK is unbeatable against other scratch engines. How is it against the level 1 stock-fish?
I let GoK play a game against Stockfish level 5, which GoK won (it was a very close game). And another Scratcher increased GoK's default search depth, ran it on the fast Sulfurous runtime, and reported that GoK won against Stockfish level 6. I personally think that on a very fast system and on Sulfurous, it performs at around Stockfish level 5.
Scratch Chess - Game of Kings ONLINE
There is an update on this, latest tests show that Game of Kings Chess on Sulfurous plays at ELO 1900, that would be Stockfish 6 level. Here are the detailed results: https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/post/3331089/
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