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dude341
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Remove sound effect "Ringtone" from Scratch 3.0

It's copyrighted from Apple. Some other sound effects also sounded familiar and odesong-b which is also from 2.0 sounds like it's from The Sims (EDIT: not from The Sims apparently), but I'm not sure about those.

Last edited by dude341 (March 18, 2018 13:43:18)


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Sheep_maker
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Remove sound effect "Ringtone" from Scratch 3.0

According to this, the ring tone sound was taken from YouTube's free sound effect library.

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dude341
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Remove sound effect "Ringtone" from Scratch 3.0

Sheep_maker wrote:

According to this, the ring tone sound was taken from YouTube's free sound effect library.
Strange. I'm sure it's copyrighted by Apple.
Also do you have a list of where the sounds from 2.0 and 1.x are from?

Last edited by dude341 (Jan. 27, 2018 19:05:58)


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dude341
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Remove sound effect "Ringtone" from Scratch 3.0

Bump.

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dude341
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Remove sound effect "Ringtone" from Scratch 3.0

Bump.

Last edited by dude341 (Feb. 5, 2018 15:49:06)


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dude341
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Remove sound effect "Ringtone" from Scratch 3.0

Bump.

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Nero-Guineadoq
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Remove sound effect "Ringtone" from Scratch 3.0

I'm pretty sure you're right. To my knowledge it is copyrighted.
dude341
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Remove sound effect "Ringtone" from Scratch 3.0

Nero-Guineadoq wrote:

I'm pretty sure you're right. To my knowledge it is copyrighted.
Does odesong-b from 2.0 sound familiar also? Just want people's opinions since it sounds familiar to me.

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wWSunPandaWw
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Remove sound effect "Ringtone" from Scratch 3.0

I found something on the Terms of Use (my favorite place to go to when replying to a post on the forums):

The Terms of Use wrote:

5.5 The Scratch support materials library may contain images and sounds that are trademarked by third parties. The fact that materials are included in the Scratch support materials library does not in any way limit or reduce intellectual property rights, including trademark rights, otherwise available to the materials' owners. Nothing in these Terms of Use or the Creative Commons 2.0 license will be construed to limit or reduce any party's rights in that party's valid trademarks. You may not use these materials to label, promote, or endorse any product or service. You are solely responsible for any violation of a third party's intellectual property rights caused by your misuse of these materials.
And an article on the Wiki.
So, I'm really unsure what to think.
The Terms of Use seem to say “Yes, Scratch can use it”, and the Wiki says things can only be taken down if the people who created it take it up with the Scratch Team.
And Sheep_Maker says it's from Youtube's sound library.
But you seem pretty confident that it's copyrighted by Apple.
So many contradicting things!
Semi-support–Support if Apple doesn't like that it's there because it's copyrighted, No Support if it's from Youtube's library and nobody cares what the Scratch Team does with it.

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dude341
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Remove sound effect "Ringtone" from Scratch 3.0

wWSunPandaWw wrote:

I found something on the Terms of Use (my favorite place to go to when replying to a post on the forums):

The Terms of Use wrote:

5.5 The Scratch support materials library may contain images and sounds that are trademarked by third parties. The fact that materials are included in the Scratch support materials library does not in any way limit or reduce intellectual property rights, including trademark rights, otherwise available to the materials' owners. Nothing in these Terms of Use or the Creative Commons 2.0 license will be construed to limit or reduce any party's rights in that party's valid trademarks. You may not use these materials to label, promote, or endorse any product or service. You are solely responsible for any violation of a third party's intellectual property rights caused by your misuse of these materials.
And an article on the Wiki.
So, I'm really unsure what to think.
The Terms of Use seem to say “Yes, Scratch can use it”, and the Wiki says things can only be taken down if the people who created it take it up with the Scratch Team.
And Sheep_Maker says it's from Youtube's sound library.
But you seem pretty confident that it's copyrighted by Apple.
So many contradicting things!
Semi-support–Support if Apple doesn't like that it's there because it's copyrighted, No Support if it's from Youtube's library and nobody cares what the Scratch Team does with it.
I think that terms of use page it talking about users using copyrighted content, either that or it's poorly worded (The Scratch supports materials library? What? What is the Materials library and why does Scratch support it?)
But anyway, if it is talking about the multimedia library, then it's invalid, Scratch can't just go “boom!” and make it so they can do whatever they want. It just doesn't work.

Last edited by dude341 (Feb. 6, 2018 22:19:26)


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Sigton
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Remove sound effect "Ringtone" from Scratch 3.0

dude341 wrote:

(The Scratch supports materials library? What? What is the Materials library and why does Scratch support it?)
The Scratch Support Materials Library is the sprite, costume, backdrop and sound library

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CosmicBunBun
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Remove sound effect "Ringtone" from Scratch 3.0

I am absolutely sure that if it were copyrighted, Apple would've been on Scratch faster than an Alaskan Bullworm on an underwater squirrel.


Sheep_maker
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Remove sound effect "Ringtone" from Scratch 3.0

dude341 wrote:

odesong-b which is also from 2.0 sounds like it's from The Sims, but I'm not sure about those.
The ode to joy songs are from the Ode to Code event; according to the project, the music was made by Brendan D. Paolini. His soundcloud

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Remove sound effect "Ringtone" from Scratch 3.0

dude341 wrote:

wWSunPandaWw wrote:

I found something on the Terms of Use (my favorite place to go to when replying to a post on the forums):

The Terms of Use wrote:

5.5 The Scratch support materials library may contain images and sounds that are trademarked by third parties. The fact that materials are included in the Scratch support materials library does not in any way limit or reduce intellectual property rights, including trademark rights, otherwise available to the materials' owners. Nothing in these Terms of Use or the Creative Commons 2.0 license will be construed to limit or reduce any party's rights in that party's valid trademarks. You may not use these materials to label, promote, or endorse any product or service. You are solely responsible for any violation of a third party's intellectual property rights caused by your misuse of these materials.
And an article on the Wiki.
So, I'm really unsure what to think.
The Terms of Use seem to say “Yes, Scratch can use it”, and the Wiki says things can only be taken down if the people who created it take it up with the Scratch Team.
And Sheep_Maker says it's from Youtube's sound library.
But you seem pretty confident that it's copyrighted by Apple.
So many contradicting things!
Semi-support–Support if Apple doesn't like that it's there because it's copyrighted, No Support if it's from Youtube's library and nobody cares what the Scratch Team does with it.
I think that terms of use page it talking about users using copyrighted content, either that or it's poorly worded (The Scratch supports materials library? What? What is the Materials library and why does Scratch support it?)
But anyway, if it is talking about the multimedia library, then it's invalid, Scratch can't just go “boom!” and make it so they can do whatever they want. It just doesn't work.
It's talking about the multimedia library - but they have to get rights to use the multimedia files before they can exist on the library.


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dude341
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Remove sound effect "Ringtone" from Scratch 3.0

Bump.

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DaEpikDude
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Remove sound effect "Ringtone" from Scratch 3.0

CosmicBunBun wrote:

I am absolutely sure that if it were copyrighted, Apple would've been on Scratch faster than an Alaskan Bullworm on an underwater squirrel.

that's an… interesting simile

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dude341
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Remove sound effect "Ringtone" from Scratch 3.0

DaEpikDude wrote:

CosmicBunBun wrote:

I am absolutely sure that if it were copyrighted, Apple would've been on Scratch faster than an Alaskan Bullworm on an underwater squirrel.

that's an… interesting simile
But don't similes have to have the two words having same beginning letters, like alliteration?
how many times did I use “have” and that sentence was so broken.

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dude341
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Remove sound effect "Ringtone" from Scratch 3.0

Bump.

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dude341
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Remove sound effect "Ringtone" from Scratch 3.0

And another bump

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Remove sound effect "Ringtone" from Scratch 3.0

And another bump again! Bump!

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