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Warriorbuilds3
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100+ posts

Bring back the old way of messages

In my opinion, the new messages page is good. Unlike the previous messages page, it actually doesn't reload the entire page when you try seeing older messages, so that way, it doesn't already think that you already read them, thus making it impossible to know which ones you read unless you have superior memory.
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goldfish678
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1000+ posts

Bring back the old way of messages

I can't really say much about this, but I can tell you that I think the reason the ST is doing this is they're trying to make the whole site more mobile-friendly by making everything larger and blockier. Hope that gives you some insight.
megaman100
Scratcher
100+ posts

Bring back the old way of messages

_nix wrote:

megaman100 wrote:

_nix wrote:

megaman100 wrote:

_nix wrote:

Hmm.. what was your favorite thing about the old messages page? Can you think of any particular reason you miss it so much?
My favorite thing was that it showed me more messages even from years ago. That's why I miss it so much.
That's actually the thing I miss the most, too..!

Before you could go to https://scratch.mit.edu/messages/?page=100, and you'd see the messages from months to years ago (depending on how many messages you've gotten before). Now there's no `?page` URL..

Yeah. However, I think we can convince the Scratch Team to revert it back to the old version.
Perhaps it would be more productive for them to simply add back that feature, into the new page?

That's what I had in mind! How can we contact them to bring back that feature?
_nix
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1000+ posts

Bring back the old way of messages

megaman100 wrote:

That's what I had in mind! How can we contact them to bring back that feature?
Your best bet is to just make a suggestion in the Suggestions forum. (I know this is already a Suggestions post; but making a more specific topic, e.g. a “bring back the Messages's pages feature” which explains how you can't view your old messages without the feature, would be helpful.)
pack34
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100+ posts

Bring back the old way of messages

yeah i like the old one too, its simple, shows you your new messages, and gets its job done, on the other side of things, the new one looks nice, does not show which messages are new, and, messages take up even more space, so you cant just see your messages, you have to keep scrolling! honestly the only thing i really care for about the new message page is that there are more ways to sort your mail, but, its not worth it!
megaman100
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100+ posts

Bring back the old way of messages

dave4681 wrote:

Ok, so people complained before that the old messaging system had no filter.
However when:
  1. The ST actually add a suggestion for the first time in ages
  2. They add the filter you were all asking for the past 3 years
  3. They change the format so it isn't just ugly writing crammed together
  4. You can find messages easier,
People still complain because they can't count their messages? Why does that matter?

ReeseandScarlett wrote:

Yeah, honestly the new messages are WAY too cluttered. Nothing is separated by which day the message appeared, and it's less compressed with new graphics, making it very tedious to scroll down to see all your notifications instead of easily being able to view all the messages at once when they were close together.
Just need to point out:
  • You've said the new messages were way too cluttered AND less compressed at the same time, which I'm pretty sure cancel each other out.
  • Every message states the time it was made.
  • They've added the filter, made to separate the messages.

I'm still waiting for a decent reason to support this topic right now.


I understand. However, I think they should bring back the old messages page, but with filters.
Randomness-TV
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100+ posts

Bring back the old way of messages

FancyFoxy wrote:

I feel like the only one who actually liked this update It is a bit fat, though. I don't support bringing the old way back. I do support having less spacing.
You're not alone!
GC_Collabs
Scratcher
34 posts

Bring back the old way of messages

WolfCat67 wrote:

The only things I don't like is that you can't see your alerts and the new messages aren't labelled with grey like they were before.

i agree

megaman100 wrote:

I really miss the old messages page. Would you mind if you could change it back to the old version?

I'm not the scratch team

_nix wrote:

Hmm.. what was your favorite thing about the old messages page? Can you think of any particular reason you miss it so much?

I miss the message pages. Because sometimes I celebrate milestones like 5,000 messages, or more recently, 10,000…

megaman100 wrote:

_nix wrote:

megaman100 wrote:

_nix wrote:

Hmm.. what was your favorite thing about the old messages page? Can you think of any particular reason you miss it so much?
My favorite thing was that it showed me more messages even from years ago. That's why I miss it so much.
That's actually the thing I miss the most, too..!

Before you could go to https://scratch.mit.edu/messages/?page=100, and you'd see the messages from months to years ago (depending on how many messages you've gotten before). Now there's no `?page` URL..

Yeah. However, I think we can convince the Scratch Team to revert it back to the old version.

I'd wish!!

Botcho_Otkho wrote:

But… at least say why you would like the old message page. It doesn't mean nothing that “you miss that”.

I would like it because, in case I would celebrate more milestones like 20,000 messages or 50,000.


GC_Collabs
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34 posts

Bring back the old way of messages

Warriorbuilds3 wrote:

In my opinion, the new messages page is good. Unlike the previous messages page, it actually doesn't reload the entire page when you try seeing older messages, so that way, it doesn't already think that you already read them, thus making it impossible to know which ones you read unless you have superior memory.
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That's one of the reasons why I miss it!

pack34 wrote:

yeah i like the old one too, its simple, shows you your new messages, and gets its job done, on the other side of things, the new one looks nice, does not show which messages are new, and, messages take up even more space, so you cant just see your messages, you have to keep scrolling! honestly the only thing i really care for about the new message page is that there are more ways to sort your mail, but, its not worth it!

i agree


asqwde
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Bring back the old way of messages

I prefer the old messages page.
if <<[messages] = [new way]>> then 
say [yay!]

else
say [Oh no]
end
megaman100
Scratcher
100+ posts

Bring back the old way of messages

asqwde wrote:

I prefer the old messages page.

Me 2!
DaEpikDude
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Bring back the old way of messages

megaman100 wrote:

asqwde wrote:

I prefer the old messages page.

Me 2!
me -1
new one is better, and they're not changing it back
just look at #bringitback's success
or lack thereof, should i say
megaman100
Scratcher
100+ posts

Bring back the old way of messages

Here's an image of the old messages page.

How do you feel about it compared to the current one?

Last edited by megaman100 (Nov. 10, 2017 23:22:14)

PrincessTS
Scratcher
500+ posts

Bring back the old way of messages

I feel that the new one is better, and will compliment Scratch 3.0 more. There's more space to see comments, and user icons. No support.
Charles12310
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Bring back the old way of messages

megaman100 wrote:

Here's an image of the old messages page.

How do you feel about it compared to the current one?
(offtopic) So, CrazyNimbus is your other account? (offtopic)

The other one looks more modern, and uses the new layout. The new layout looks good, but I have always wondered why things are getting more “plain” if you know what I'm talking about. One example is the windows logo. It used to be a colored and curved window that was moving because of the black dots, but now it's just a flat blue window.
CODDERJXY
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80 posts

Bring back the old way of messages

In a way I also agree since it is hard for me to see my old messages now.
megaman100
Scratcher
100+ posts

Bring back the old way of messages

CODDERJXY wrote:

In a way I also agree since it is hard for me to see my old messages now.
I had the same idea.
NitroCipher
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500+ posts

Bring back the old way of messages

I helped to make a userscript that (semi) restores the old layout.

You will need Tampermonkey(chrome) or Violentmonkey(firefox) to install it.
megaman100
Scratcher
100+ posts

Bring back the old way of messages

DaEpikDude wrote:

It's basically confirmed at this point that the ST aren't going to #BringItBack , in either case (discuss or messages).
So in answer to your question, no.
also I like the messages page

Actually, bringing back the old messages page hasn't been listed or mentioned on the list of rejected suggestions yet.

customhacker wrote:

Rejected Features

The following are rejected features for the website. Explanations are included in a different post.


  1. Cloud Chats
  2. Private Messages
  3. Restricting Sharing/See Inside
  4. Rating Projects
  5. Removing 60/120 Second Rule
  6. Removing Restricted Image Hosts/Adding your own sites
  7. Deleting comments on other profiles/Deleting Forum Posts
  8. 3D Scratch
  9. <broadcast received> block
  10. Game Badges/Achievements
  11. Changing Usernames
  12. Off-Topic/Miscellaneous Forum
  13. 13+ Site
  14. Removing Add Everything Studios
  15. Scratch Money
  16. Remove Phone # Sensor
  17. Text Based Games
  18. Banning Minor Remixes
  19. Banning Follow For Follow
  20. Ignore List (Blocking Users)
  21. When Stop Sign Clicked
  22. Live Editing
  23. Banning Projects with No Programming
  24. Showing When Users Are Banned
  25. Ranks Above Scratcher
  26. Moderating Mini-Mods
  27. Removing Studio Activity Messages
  28. Scratch Team Cannot Post Political Views
  29. Bringing Back the Discuss Button
  30. Removing the Suggestions Forum

Last edited by megaman100 (Jan. 8, 2018 23:43:21)

Sheep_maker
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Bring back the old way of messages

The list of rejected suggestions doesn't document everything the ST has rejected; it only includes what has been rejected and is commonly suggested

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