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Scratcher1002
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Bring back the old way of messages

Ehh.. No support, I kinda like it.
Sheep_maker
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1000+ posts

Bring back the old way of messages

I like it as well, though I would want to have a clearer way of telling unread messages apart of read ones (currently I believe read messages have a faded icon)

Also, it would be nice if the “filter by” option could be specified by URL, like at /messages/?filter=comments or /messages/comments
GC_Collabs
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34 posts

Bring back the old way of messages

powercon5 wrote:

FancyFoxy wrote:

I feel like the only one who actually liked this update It is a bit fat, though. I don't support bringing the old way back. I do support having less spacing.
While I think it will take some getting used to, I really like it.

How important is it to know the total?

I have a project on GC123456 that says how many messages I have. However, I haven't counted it for this month

-Rex- wrote:

There are filters instead of pages.

What? Im confused

Lionclaws
Scratcher
27 posts

Bring back the old way of messages

Honestly I would really like to have the pages back. If you want to go back to a message you received a while ago, you have to keep scrolling down and loading more comments for a ridiculous amount of time. I also dislike the fat message size, although i feel that maybe ST will go in and fix that soon, i've seen a lot of complaints about that.
I also notice that the heart/star/comment symbols for ‘read’ messages are more faded, which is good, but I would like it if the message itself was slightly faded too. (or that the new messages were darker, like in the old inbox). It would make scrolling new messages through a lot easier, instead of peering at the little symbols to see if it was read or unread.

Other than that I don't think i have too much against it. It's okay, definitely not terrific but i can live with it.
WolfCat67
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1000+ posts

Bring back the old way of messages

The only things I don't like is that you can't see your alerts and the new messages aren't labelled with grey like they were before.
MClovers
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Bring back the old way of messages

No. Filters are awesome. They are so useful and the ST also made the messages page look pretty. No support.
DownsGameClub
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1000+ posts

Bring back the old way of messages

Why are we even complaining about this? We have to move on people! If we can't accept change, the world will end up broke - nothing will work properly and we'll be stuck for a good while!

Also, for people who are complaining about messages not having pages, please complain to Google. They have a very very similar system which works well for many Google users. And keep in mind that this is newly released - of course it's going to have some odd patches but they will fix it when they get enough feedback

Last edited by DownsGameClub (Sept. 9, 2017 19:57:33)

Charles12310
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1000+ posts

Bring back the old way of messages

dave4681 wrote:

Ok, so people complained before that the old messaging system had no filter.
However when:
  1. The ST actually add a suggestion for the first time in ages
  2. They add the filter you were all asking for the past 3 years
  3. They change the format so it isn't just ugly writing crammed together
  4. You can find messages easier,
People still complain because they can't count their messages? Why does that matter?

ReeseandScarlett wrote:

Yeah, honestly the new messages are WAY too cluttered. Nothing is separated by which day the message appeared, and it's less compressed with new graphics, making it very tedious to scroll down to see all your notifications instead of easily being able to view all the messages at once when they were close together.
Just need to point out:
  • You've said the new messages were way too cluttered AND less compressed at the same time, which I'm pretty sure cancel each other out.
  • Every message states the time it was made.
  • They've added the filter, made to separate the messages.

I'm still waiting for a decent reason to support this topic right now.

Exactly. No Support. I event made a studio that was against this suggestion. It gives me a headache.
WolfCat67
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1000+ posts

Bring back the old way of messages

Really, the only change that needs to be made is that Alerts SHOULD be visible to the user and not disappear immediately, and that instead of just darkening the icons the entire section should be a light grey to show that it is, indeed, new. I'd also like it if the usernames could actually be linked to in the message itself, as it currently does not link usernames in the new message.

Other than that, I like the layout and am fine with the way it is. Though having it read “Messages” at the top and then once again before the messages is a little redundant…
C00lCreeper
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91 posts

Bring back the old way of messages

WolfCat67 wrote:

I'd also like it if the usernames could actually be linked to in the message itself, as it currently does not link usernames in the new message.
The username links are selectable in the messages, actually. It's just hard to see it because it doesn't change much when you hover the mouse over it.
megaman100
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100+ posts

Bring back the old way of messages

I really miss the old messages page. Would you mind if you could change it back to the old version?

Last edited by megaman100 (Sept. 12, 2017 02:44:01)

_nix
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Bring back the old way of messages

Hmm.. what was your favorite thing about the old messages page? Can you think of any particular reason you miss it so much?
megaman100
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Bring back the old way of messages

_nix wrote:

Hmm.. what was your favorite thing about the old messages page? Can you think of any particular reason you miss it so much?
My favorite thing was that it showed me more messages even from years ago. That's why I miss it so much.

Last edited by megaman100 (Sept. 11, 2017 20:15:22)

_nix
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Bring back the old way of messages

megaman100 wrote:

_nix wrote:

Hmm.. what was your favorite thing about the old messages page? Can you think of any particular reason you miss it so much?
My favorite thing was that it showed me more messages even from years ago. That's why I miss it so much.
That's actually the thing I miss the most, too..!

Before you could go to https://scratch.mit.edu/messages/?page=100, and you'd see the messages from months to years ago (depending on how many messages you've gotten before). Now there's no `?page` URL..
megaman100
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Bring back the old way of messages

_nix wrote:

megaman100 wrote:

_nix wrote:

Hmm.. what was your favorite thing about the old messages page? Can you think of any particular reason you miss it so much?
My favorite thing was that it showed me more messages even from years ago. That's why I miss it so much.
That's actually the thing I miss the most, too..!

Before you could go to https://scratch.mit.edu/messages/?page=100, and you'd see the messages from months to years ago (depending on how many messages you've gotten before). Now there's no `?page` URL..

Yeah. However, I think we can convince the Scratch Team to revert it back to the old version.
_nix
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Bring back the old way of messages

megaman100 wrote:

_nix wrote:

megaman100 wrote:

_nix wrote:

Hmm.. what was your favorite thing about the old messages page? Can you think of any particular reason you miss it so much?
My favorite thing was that it showed me more messages even from years ago. That's why I miss it so much.
That's actually the thing I miss the most, too..!

Before you could go to https://scratch.mit.edu/messages/?page=100, and you'd see the messages from months to years ago (depending on how many messages you've gotten before). Now there's no `?page` URL..

Yeah. However, I think we can convince the Scratch Team to revert it back to the old version.
Perhaps it would be more productive for them to simply add back that feature, into the new page?
NitroCipher
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500+ posts

Bring back the old way of messages

I don't think they will revert. I hope they do decide to add back older features though. If you don't like the overall format, you could try out https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/274665/ It is a userscript that I helped write that reformats the message page to be more in the style of the previous version.
Botcho_Otkho
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1000+ posts

Bring back the old way of messages

But… at least say why you would like the old message page. It doesn't mean nothing that “you miss that”.
DaEpikDude
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1000+ posts

Bring back the old way of messages

It's basically confirmed at this point that the ST aren't going to #BringItBack , in either case (discuss or messages).
So in answer to your question, no.
also I like the messages page
Charles12310
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Bring back the old way of messages

DaEpikDude wrote:

It's basically confirmed at this point that the ST aren't going to #BringItBack , in either case (discuss or messages).
So in answer to your question, no.
also I like the messages page
No Support. Unless new one can be used too, this reverting will not happen. Yes there are bugs and things not featured, but you are simply just requesting removing them instead of telling Scratch Team to fix something or add something?

Besides, Scratch Team will not revert any update that they think won't cause complete harm. It's their new layout, so deal with it.

vvvv

Last edited by Charles12310 (Sept. 14, 2017 02:31:14)

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