MathlyCat wrote:

Digital_Gaming wrote:

MathlyCat wrote:

Alright this needs to be added. Too many people are doing this and it's really hypocritical.

Stop complaining about the forums.

You aren't solving a problem by complaining about it.
If you point out the flaws no one will look to a positive view.

The purpose is to change the forums, not explain and repeat what has been stated in the past.
If you feel the need to make problems rather than solve them, the forums is not the place.

Well if there are problems in the forums, which there are, then people should complain until either a compromise can be reached or the issue is solved.

You don't find a solution by constantly begging/whining for one.

MathlyCat wrote:

If people are aware, propose a solution to the ST[/quote
Yes. Until said issue that people are aware of is fixed]

MathlyCat wrote:

Alright this needs to be added. Too many people are doing this and it's really hypocritical.

Stop complaining about the forums.

You aren't solving a problem by complaining about it.
If you point out the flaws no one will look to a positive view.

The purpose is to change the forums, not explain and repeat what has been stated in the past.
If you feel the need to make problems rather than solve them, the forums is not the place.

dave4681 wrote:

MathlyCat wrote:

Alright this needs to be added. Too many people are doing this and it's really hypocritical.

Stop complaining about the forums.

You aren't solving a problem by complaining about it.
If you point out the flaws no one will look to a positive view.

The purpose is to change the forums, not explain and repeat what has been stated in the past.
If you feel the need to make problems rather than solve them, the forums is not the place.

(Lol - When you know the hate is real)

Anyway, this doesn't make much sense, considering you're complaining that others are complaining.
I mean, look at the topic that you want this to be put in, even if it isn't a complaint.

dave4681 wrote:

MathlyCat wrote:

Alright this needs to be added. Too many people are doing this and it's really hypocritical.

Stop complaining about the forums.

You aren't solving a problem by complaining about it.
If you point out the flaws no one will look to a positive view.

The purpose is to change the forums, not explain and repeat what has been stated in the past.
If you feel the need to make problems rather than solve them, the forums is not the place.

(Lol - When you know the hate is real)

Anyway, this doesn't make much sense, considering you're complaining that others are complaining.
I mean, look at the topic that you want this to be put in, even if it isn't a complaint.

MathlyCat wrote:

dave4681 wrote:

MathlyCat wrote:

Alright this needs to be added. Too many people are doing this and it's really hypocritical.

Stop complaining about the forums.

You aren't solving a problem by complaining about it.
If you point out the flaws no one will look to a positive view.

The purpose is to change the forums, not explain and repeat what has been stated in the past.
If you feel the need to make problems rather than solve them, the forums is not the place.

(Lol - When you know the hate is real)

Anyway, this doesn't make much sense, considering you're complaining that others are complaining.
I mean, look at the topic that you want this to be put in, even if it isn't a complaint.

Yes, I did complain, but I found a solution and am trying to put it in place.

That's the difference. No point in discrediting something like our government and then not posing a solution.

dave4681 wrote:

MathlyCat wrote:

dave4681 wrote:

MathlyCat wrote:

Alright this needs to be added. Too many people are doing this and it's really hypocritical.

Stop complaining about the forums.

You aren't solving a problem by complaining about it.
If you point out the flaws no one will look to a positive view.

The purpose is to change the forums, not explain and repeat what has been stated in the past.
If you feel the need to make problems rather than solve them, the forums is not the place.

(Lol - When you know the hate is real)

Anyway, this doesn't make much sense, considering you're complaining that others are complaining.
I mean, look at the topic that you want this to be put in, even if it isn't a complaint.

Yes, I did complain, but I found a solution and am trying to put it in place.

That's the difference. No point in discrediting something like our government and then not posing a solution.

Welp, I did suggest a solution on my thread, and it was that people should stop treating others badly by acting superior.

Also, it seems that you've decided to change your stance about this here.

If you're going to change your opinion, the least you could do is not to be fairly mean simply to explain it. Your arguments are fantastic most of the time, but not being nice about it can offend people and make them feel bad.

Austinato wrote:

Bumping this topic. There used to be a lot of conversation here, but I guess that went away.

duckboycool wrote:

Austinato wrote:

Bumping this topic. There used to be a lot of conversation here, but I guess that went away.

You can't bump this. It's a sticky.

Austinato wrote:

duckboycool wrote:

Austinato wrote:

Bumping this topic. There used to be a lot of conversation here, but I guess that went away.

You can't bump this. It's a sticky.

By bumping I meant like possibly trying to start another conversation, but I noticed that! Late congratulations!

MathlyCat wrote:

Its kinda been a sticky for… uh like since page 4?

MathlyCat wrote:

I don't see anything wrong or a need to “bump”

Another Suggestion

Think about how you make your post and take into consideration the professionalism, effort, outcome, and possibility of it. First we have to take into consideration the effort and outcome of the suggestion. First, you must think, ‘Can the Scratch Team do it? Would it be to much work?’ And if you really want to help ask yourself, ‘How will they do it?’ And explain how to prove its not too complicated. Also, think about what the outcome would be, would people use it? Would people use it well? Would it quickly lose popularity and end up not doing anything? Would it make Scracth too hard? Would it make Scratch to easy? If you're making a suggestion, you must explain how it's done. A project would help, or the Scratchblocks tool. If the Scratch Team can't understand what you're saying, or can't understand how it should be done, the post was useless! Don't make topics like this: I think the Scratch Team should do ____. Make them like this: I think the Scratch Team should do ____, because ____. They would do this by ____. Make it professional, so the Scratch Team actually takes into consider your recommendation. You need to make it sound like you care!

Smurphy13AWESOME wrote:

Great! This helps a lot! Even though I don't do this stuff it helps it be recognizable! One thing I think you could add…

Another Suggestion

Think about how you make your post and take into consideration the professionalism, effort, outcome, and possibility of it. First we have to take into consideration the effort and outcome of the suggestion. First, you must think, ‘Can the Scratch Team do it? Would it be to much work?’ And if you really want to help ask yourself, ‘How will they do it?’ And explain how to prove its not too complicated. Also, think about what the outcome would be, would people use it? Would people use it well? Would it quickly lose popularity and end up not doing anything? Would it make Scracth too hard? Would it make Scratch to easy? If you're making a suggestion, you must explain how it's done. A project would help, or the Scratchblocks tool. If the Scratch Team can't understand what you're saying, or can't understand how it should be done, the post was useless! Don't make topics like this: I think the Scratch Team should do ____. Make them like this: I think the Scratch Team should do ____, because ____. They would do this by ____. Make it professional, so the Scratch Team actually takes into consider your recommendation. You need to make it sound like you care!

This is what I think should be added to give further understanding of the suggestions forum. Thanks for reading and considering!

MathlyCat wrote:

Smurphy13AWESOME wrote:

Great! This helps a lot! Even though I don't do this stuff it helps it be recognizable! One thing I think you could add…

Another Suggestion

Think about how you make your post and take into consideration the professionalism, effort, outcome, and possibility of it. First we have to take into consideration the effort and outcome of the suggestion. First, you must think, ‘Can the Scratch Team do it? Would it be to much work?’ And if you really want to help ask yourself, ‘How will they do it?’ And explain how to prove its not too complicated. Also, think about what the outcome would be, would people use it? Would people use it well? Would it quickly lose popularity and end up not doing anything? Would it make Scracth too hard? Would it make Scratch to easy? If you're making a suggestion, you must explain how it's done. A project would help, or the Scratchblocks tool. If the Scratch Team can't understand what you're saying, or can't understand how it should be done, the post was useless! Don't make topics like this: I think the Scratch Team should do ____. Make them like this: I think the Scratch Team should do ____, because ____. They would do this by ____. Make it professional, so the Scratch Team actually takes into consider your recommendation. You need to make it sound like you care!

This is what I think should be added to give further understanding of the suggestions forum. Thanks for reading and considering!

Maybe I'm wrong, but your suggestion compiles all of this topic into a paragraph

Digital_Gaming wrote:

I think in the end this worked out. We have better suggestions and people have finally stopped mini modding because of this sticky. Keep it up Scratch.

It's fine if you don't like the idea of a post that has mostly (or all) support, or the other way around, if you like a suggestion that has no (or little) support. You don't need to let other users influence you solely, but if they're making really good points, it's okay to be turned to the other side. Just don't be showy, like “I'm the first supporter/non-supporter”, as it's pretty rude.

LionHeart70 wrote:

This is a great guide! I might not have read the whole thing thoroughly (but I tried), so I'm wondering if you can add something like this if you haven't already (but definitely go ahead and change/add stuff to this if you want):

It's fine if you don't like the idea of a post that has mostly (or all) support, or the other way around, if you like a suggestion that has no (or little) support. You don't need to let other users influence you solely, but if they're making really good points, it's okay to be turned to the other side. Just don't be showy, like “I'm the first supporter/non-supporter”, as it's pretty rude.