Whiskers: Scratch 2.0 for Incompatible Devices

TDR-Games

Nice work! This will make my life a lot easier…

Xanderbee337

so this is scratch 1.4 + scratch 2.0?

Penguin5664

Xanderbee337 wrote:
so this is scratch 1.4 + scratch 2.0?

Yes, just what you meant.

Whiskers is a Scratch 2.0 for incompatible devices.
However, the owner of this app is working on a recent, and yet new version that will allow users use Vector Mode in a Squeak VM!

Yeah, it uses a Squeak VM. Amazing isn't it?

pawellabaj

Hi,

I would like to run Whiskers on Raspberry. I have installed it according to article at Simplesi.

When I try to load project created in Scratch and ScratchGPIO 8, Whiskers crashes without error dialog. I am using Raspberry Pi 3 with Raspbian.

Could you help me to check and solve it?
Where can I find any log file? What should I provide you to have more information?

Regards

Penguin5664

I found more bugs for you to fix

In the “Block Tips” bar, when you click the Operators category, the Motion blocks show up.

The (current [minute v]) block reports as "Sprite_Name current %z [ ]" and, yes, the value in the reporter is empty. It only works “click-reporting”

The (days since 2000) is wrong D: by I think, ummm… 13 more to clone it maybe?

I dont think you need the (username) reporter block, because it reports it empty, and wont even let you play if it uses login detector.

As mentioned before, the blocks stacked in a custom block, after the custom block getting edited, get deleted, it drives me crazy D:.

And some other things you may want to change:

Wrong color palette (Control Category (Not necessarily needed to be changed (Lighter color than it should be)))

The block anti-aliasing looks good, but a problem is that the shades are almost like the normal block colors.

Wrong color palette (Events (Turn to brown color))

You must want to change the custom block category color?

99.9% not necessary, but the “red” hat blocks have lighter red tops.

Also it has been past 2 weeks and no SVG support yet

is there a beta for the SVG editor for Squeak and SVG block rendering?

Thanks for reading this. Sincerely,
~Penguin5664

-Anvard-

Bump?

KScratchBigfan

NoMod-Programming wrote:
Hi everyone! I'm NoMod-Programming, the developer of Whiskers. Whiskers is a scratch modification that plans to be a full rewrite of the current 2.0 version in Squeak, the software Scratch 1.x was made in. This way, OSes that don't support Flash, like the one the Raspberry Pi uses, can use the 2.0 version.

Information and Installation instructions are available at: whiskers.gwiddle.co.uk.
To give suggestions, report a bug, or anything else, please visit the whiskers forums (http://whiskers.gwiddle.co.uk/discuss/)

The latest version is v24.1

NoMod-Programming wrote:
First screenshot:

If you want the raw image so you can zoom in, it is here: http://i.cubeupload.com/9tZn35.png
NOTE: the blocks from 2.0 (and 2.0 beta blocks) are red to help the user distinguish them from the others

NoMod-Programming wrote:
Hi everyone! I'm NoMod-Programming, the developer of Whiskers. Whiskers is a scratch modification that plans to be a full rewrite of the current 2.0 version in Squeak, the software Scratch 1.x was made in. This way, OSes that don't support Flash, like the one the Raspberry Pi uses, can use the 2.0 version.

Information and Installation instructions are available at: whiskers.gwiddle.co.uk.
To give suggestions, report a bug, or anything else, please visit the whiskers forums (http://whiskers.gwiddle.co.uk/discuss/)

The latest version is v24.1

The domain won't work. The whiskers.gwiddle.co.uk domain doesn't work and the discussion forums are showing 404.

Last edited by KScratchBigfan (June 9, 2017 06:51:16)

Penguin5664

KScratchBigfan wrote:
The domain won't work. The whiskers.gwiddle.co.uk domain doesn't work and the discussion forums are showing 404.

Then clicky!

jandrewg

The Raspberry Pi now includes Scratch 2.0!

Jonathan50

Couldn't they have used stand-alone flash player or implement PPAPI, or does Scratch expect to be in an HTML document? Having a whole web rendering engine will take up lots more memory and startup time

Last edited by Jonathan50 (June 23, 2017 22:15:04)

NickyNouse

Yeah it sounds like they already had Flash set up on the OS, so Electron seems super unnecessary here? They probs could've ported it from the regular offline player and avoided packaging it with a copy of chromium

oh well, still good for them that they got it working I guess

infinitytec

NickyNouse wrote:
Yeah it sounds like they already had Flash set up on the OS, so Electron seems super unnecessary here? They probs could've ported it from the regular offline player and avoided packaging it with a copy of chromium

oh well, still good for them that they got it working I guess

Yeah.
Still no support for the Pi 1 and Zero.

They also have a GPIO extension built-in. That probably explains why they are using ScratchX.

Last edited by infinitytec (June 24, 2017 04:25:04)

Blaze349

Does S 3.0 make this obsolete?

Jonathan50

Blaze349 wrote:
Does S 3.0 make this obsolete?

Not on devices where you can't get a fully Scratch-3.0 compatible browser.

NoMod-Programming

Jonathan50 wrote:
Blaze349 wrote:
Does S 3.0 make this obsolete?
Not on devices where you can't get a fully Scratch-3.0 compatible browser.

Just asking, what are some non-scratch-3 compatible browsers?

Blaze349

NoMod-Programming wrote:
Jonathan50 wrote:
Blaze349 wrote:
Does S 3.0 make this obsolete?
Not on devices where you can't get a fully Scratch-3.0 compatible browser.
Just asking, what are some non-scratch-3 compatible browsers?

Firefox with NoScript.

Jonathan50

NoMod-Programming wrote:
Just asking, what are some non-scratch-3 compatible browsers?

Browsers that don't support modern HTML5 and JavaScript (You might need to use one if you're using Windows 2000, but for Mac OS X 10.4 you can use TenFourFox.), or you might just prefer to use Whiskers because modern browsers run slow on your computer.

Blaze349 wrote:
Firefox with NoScript.

You could just disable NoScript

Last edited by Jonathan50 (July 15, 2017 02:38:57)

Jonathan50

The Whiskers site is down

infinitytec

Jonathan50 wrote:
The Whiskers site is down

It's been down for a while. If you are trying to download it, I have a link in an earlier post.

kenny2scratch

NoMod-Programming wrote:
Jonathan50 wrote:
Blaze349 wrote:
Does S 3.0 make this obsolete?
Not on devices where you can't get a fully Scratch-3.0 compatible browser.
Just asking, what are some non-scratch-3 compatible browsers?

Many versions of IE

Also, any browser with JavaScript disabled.

The main reason I think Whiskers will still be cool is I can't really see how there will be a 3.0 offline editor.
Keep going!

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