Remove Restrictions on Cartoon and Unrealistic Violence

Cub56

Well, I'm sure it's not debated that a little cartoony violence won't make kids violent.

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jji10

Digital_Gaming wrote:
jji10 wrote:
Digital_Gaming wrote:
jji10 wrote:
braxbroscratcher wrote:
jromagnoli wrote:
Cub56 wrote:
jji10 wrote:
Cub56 wrote:
jji10 wrote:
Just wanna say one thing. There are people who join at young ages, such as me. I joined at less than 7. Just saying.
Still, there are E rated games that contain mild violence that is unrealistic and that would still be NFE on Scratch.
I'd personally say the Scratch Team is better at judging that than ESRB (ironic considering ESRB live and eat to judge).
I mean, E practically means for everyone, and Tom and Jerry squabbling would be E-rated, but that isn't bad enough to be marked NFE and almost censored on Scratch,
Actually, I beg to differ, tom and jerry is pretty violent and disturbed me deeply as a young child.
It's not actually the severity of violence in Tom and Jerry that is the problem in the above. It's the quantity.

Anyway. Once again, I'll re-iterate. If a parent is worried about their child seeing violence, then they'd be locking their child away from the outside world - as even stomping a bug is violent.

And that happens every day.

People die. That's a fact. It's been proven that violent video/games doesn't induce violence any more than book violence or anything like that. Once again, we see violence every day. Open any history book. I guarantee that if it is a good book, is detailed enough, and is large enough in scope, there will be at least one battle in it.

Jeez, what's with everyone thinking kids are more fragile than a flower?
ACTUALLY it's been proven to the exact opposite. Violent video games do make people more prone to violence soon after.
Not according to these studies.
No offence, but that must have been hard finding that. I just googled something along those lines and 90% of them stated that yes they do, at least to a degree.
Link please

There are so many lol. Two more.

EDIT: I can find more if you want. I just felt lazy because it's raining… and I just woke up… so.

Last edited by jji10 (March 29, 2017 22:08:00)

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“I'm afraid you're wrong, and therefore you're dead.”

lance4dragons

GUYS!! You're getting off the topic!
The main point is, Call of Duty and such (FNAF, GTA, And many more included) will be marked NFE, or deleted/unshared.
BUT Cub56 is trying to say that sorry for advertisingTHIS or even THIS should not be marked NFE. (Even though they're probably not…)
EDIT: [sarcasm] I can spell probably.[/sarcasm]

Last edited by lance4dragons (March 29, 2017 23:36:15)

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jji10

lance4dragons wrote:
GUYS!! You're getting off the topic!
The main point is, Call of Duty and such (FNAF, GTA, And many more included) will be marked NFE, or deleted/unshared.
BUT Cub56 is trying to say that sorry for advertisingTHIS or even THIS should not be marked NFE. (Even though they're probably not…)
EDIT: [sarcasm] I can spell probably.[/sarcasm]

Like you said yourself, those projects probably aren't NFE.

“Yipee, I did it!” the man said with glee,
“I've solved that darned riddle, I've solved it, you see!”
The sphinx simply smiled and shook her strange head,
“I'm afraid you're wrong, and therefore you're dead.”

Digital_Gaming

jji10 wrote:
Digital_Gaming wrote:
jji10 wrote:
Digital_Gaming wrote:
jji10 wrote:
braxbroscratcher wrote:
jromagnoli wrote:
Cub56 wrote:
jji10 wrote:
Cub56 wrote:
jji10 wrote:
Just wanna say one thing. There are people who join at young ages, such as me. I joined at less than 7. Just saying.
Still, there are E rated games that contain mild violence that is unrealistic and that would still be NFE on Scratch.
I'd personally say the Scratch Team is better at judging that than ESRB (ironic considering ESRB live and eat to judge).
I mean, E practically means for everyone, and Tom and Jerry squabbling would be E-rated, but that isn't bad enough to be marked NFE and almost censored on Scratch,
Actually, I beg to differ, tom and jerry is pretty violent and disturbed me deeply as a young child.
It's not actually the severity of violence in Tom and Jerry that is the problem in the above. It's the quantity.

Anyway. Once again, I'll re-iterate. If a parent is worried about their child seeing violence, then they'd be locking their child away from the outside world - as even stomping a bug is violent.

And that happens every day.

People die. That's a fact. It's been proven that violent video/games doesn't induce violence any more than book violence or anything like that. Once again, we see violence every day. Open any history book. I guarantee that if it is a good book, is detailed enough, and is large enough in scope, there will be at least one battle in it.

Jeez, what's with everyone thinking kids are more fragile than a flower?
ACTUALLY it's been proven to the exact opposite. Violent video games do make people more prone to violence soon after.
Not according to these studies.
No offence, but that must have been hard finding that. I just googled something along those lines and 90% of them stated that yes they do, at least to a degree.
Link please
There are so many lol. Two more.

Are you sure about that? Because I reserchered it…

Last edited by Digital_Gaming (March 30, 2017 01:42:33)

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jji10

Digital_Gaming wrote:
jji10 wrote:
Digital_Gaming wrote:
jji10 wrote:
Digital_Gaming wrote:
jji10 wrote:
braxbroscratcher wrote:
jromagnoli wrote:
Cub56 wrote:
jji10 wrote:
Cub56 wrote:
jji10 wrote:
Just wanna say one thing. There are people who join at young ages, such as me. I joined at less than 7. Just saying.
Still, there are E rated games that contain mild violence that is unrealistic and that would still be NFE on Scratch.
I'd personally say the Scratch Team is better at judging that than ESRB (ironic considering ESRB live and eat to judge).
I mean, E practically means for everyone, and Tom and Jerry squabbling would be E-rated, but that isn't bad enough to be marked NFE and almost censored on Scratch,
Actually, I beg to differ, tom and jerry is pretty violent and disturbed me deeply as a young child.
It's not actually the severity of violence in Tom and Jerry that is the problem in the above. It's the quantity.

Anyway. Once again, I'll re-iterate. If a parent is worried about their child seeing violence, then they'd be locking their child away from the outside world - as even stomping a bug is violent.

And that happens every day.

People die. That's a fact. It's been proven that violent video/games doesn't induce violence any more than book violence or anything like that. Once again, we see violence every day. Open any history book. I guarantee that if it is a good book, is detailed enough, and is large enough in scope, there will be at least one battle in it.

Jeez, what's with everyone thinking kids are more fragile than a flower?
ACTUALLY it's been proven to the exact opposite. Violent video games do make people more prone to violence soon after.
Not according to these studies.
No offence, but that must have been hard finding that. I just googled something along those lines and 90% of them stated that yes they do, at least to a degree.
Link please
There are so many lol. Two more.
Are you sure about that? Because I reserchered it…

I literally have evidence in my life. Whenever I play violent games, I get angry more easily and I usually punch someone. And that's personal experience.

“Yipee, I did it!” the man said with glee,
“I've solved that darned riddle, I've solved it, you see!”
The sphinx simply smiled and shook her strange head,
“I'm afraid you're wrong, and therefore you're dead.”

Digital_Gaming

jji10 wrote:
Digital_Gaming wrote:
jji10 wrote:
Digital_Gaming wrote:
jji10 wrote:
Digital_Gaming wrote:
jji10 wrote:
braxbroscratcher wrote:
jromagnoli wrote:
Cub56 wrote:
jji10 wrote:
Cub56 wrote:
jji10 wrote:
Just wanna say one thing. There are people who join at young ages, such as me. I joined at less than 7. Just saying.
Still, there are E rated games that contain mild violence that is unrealistic and that would still be NFE on Scratch.
I'd personally say the Scratch Team is better at judging that than ESRB (ironic considering ESRB live and eat to judge).
I mean, E practically means for everyone, and Tom and Jerry squabbling would be E-rated, but that isn't bad enough to be marked NFE and almost censored on Scratch,
Actually, I beg to differ, tom and jerry is pretty violent and disturbed me deeply as a young child.
It's not actually the severity of violence in Tom and Jerry that is the problem in the above. It's the quantity.

Anyway. Once again, I'll re-iterate. If a parent is worried about their child seeing violence, then they'd be locking their child away from the outside world - as even stomping a bug is violent.

And that happens every day.

People die. That's a fact. It's been proven that violent video/games doesn't induce violence any more than book violence or anything like that. Once again, we see violence every day. Open any history book. I guarantee that if it is a good book, is detailed enough, and is large enough in scope, there will be at least one battle in it.

Jeez, what's with everyone thinking kids are more fragile than a flower?
ACTUALLY it's been proven to the exact opposite. Violent video games do make people more prone to violence soon after.
Not according to these studies.
No offence, but that must have been hard finding that. I just googled something along those lines and 90% of them stated that yes they do, at least to a degree.
Link please
There are so many lol. Two more.
Are you sure about that? Because I reserchered it…
I literally have evidence in my life. Whenever I play violent games, I get angry more easily and I usually punch someone. And that's personal experience.

Well I dont have that experience and i have dozens of hours on call of duty. But I do notice it a bit in my friends that are addicted to video games. But then again I have other frinds who also play a lot of games and they're fine. Guess it just depends on the person.

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PrincessPanda_test_

Now we're getting off topic. There's no complete evidence that violent video games are aggressive behavior. It may vary for some people, but averagely, people don't show any aggression.now on topic.

jji10

PrincessPanda_test_ wrote:
Now we're getting off topic. There's no complete evidence that violent video games are aggressive behavior. It may vary for some people, but averagely, people don't show any aggression.now on topic.

That was actually on topic, but whatever.

“Yipee, I did it!” the man said with glee,
“I've solved that darned riddle, I've solved it, you see!”
The sphinx simply smiled and shook her strange head,
“I'm afraid you're wrong, and therefore you're dead.”

braxbroscratcher

jji10 wrote:
PrincessPanda_test_ wrote:
Now we're getting off topic. There's no complete evidence that violent video games are aggressive behavior. It may vary for some people, but averagely, people don't show any aggression.now on topic.
That was actually on topic, but whatever.

Actually - the evidence all says that yes it does, but no more than other media, such as books or movies.

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braxbroscratcher wrote:
jji10 wrote:
PrincessPanda_test_ wrote:
Now we're getting off topic. There's no complete evidence that violent video games are aggressive behavior. It may vary for some people, but averagely, people don't show any aggression.now on topic.
That was actually on topic, but whatever.
Actually - the evidence all says that yes it does, but no more than other media, such as books or movies.

Well duh. That's why we don't let kids read/watch/play adult material.

“Yipee, I did it!” the man said with glee,
“I've solved that darned riddle, I've solved it, you see!”
The sphinx simply smiled and shook her strange head,
“I'm afraid you're wrong, and therefore you're dead.”

Austinato

PrincessPanda_test_ wrote:
Now we're getting off topic. There's no complete evidence that violent video games are aggressive behavior. It may vary for some people, but averagely, people don't show any aggression.now on topic.

Well the statistics and the studies are indeed appropriate for the topic.

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stickfiregames

jji10 wrote:
lance4dragons wrote:
GUYS!! You're getting off the topic!
The main point is, Call of Duty and such (FNAF, GTA, And many more included) will be marked NFE, or deleted/unshared.
BUT Cub56 is trying to say that sorry for advertisingTHIS or even THIS should not be marked NFE. (Even though they're probably not…)
EDIT: [sarcasm] I can spell probably.[/sarcasm]
Like you said yourself, those projects probably aren't NFE.

No, they're not. They're unrated though, so they could become NFE if the ST decide to make them.

Last edited by stickfiregames (March 30, 2017 10:41:00)

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The majority of projects haven't been rated because the ST don't have time to rate 21 million projects, but if the ST decides to rate it, it will most likely be NFE and not allowed to be front paged.

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jji10

Cub56 wrote:
The majority of projects haven't been rated because the ST don't have time to rate 21 million projects, but if the ST decides to rate it, it will most likely be NFE and not allowed to be front paged.

There's really no proof of that.

“Yipee, I did it!” the man said with glee,
“I've solved that darned riddle, I've solved it, you see!”
The sphinx simply smiled and shook her strange head,
“I'm afraid you're wrong, and therefore you're dead.”

Cub56

jji10 wrote:
Cub56 wrote:
The majority of projects haven't been rated because the ST don't have time to rate 21 million projects, but if the ST decides to rate it, it will most likely be NFE and not allowed to be front paged.
There's really no proof of that.

I've asked a Scratch Team member about this stuff and I've been told that any game with killing in it has the potential to be marked NFE

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jji10

Cub56 wrote:
jji10 wrote:
Cub56 wrote:
The majority of projects haven't been rated because the ST don't have time to rate 21 million projects, but if the ST decides to rate it, it will most likely be NFE and not allowed to be front paged.
There's really no proof of that.
I've asked a Scratch Team member about this stuff and I've been told that any game with killing in it has the potential to be marked NFE

I think that sounds about right.

“Yipee, I did it!” the man said with glee,
“I've solved that darned riddle, I've solved it, you see!”
The sphinx simply smiled and shook her strange head,
“I'm afraid you're wrong, and therefore you're dead.”

braxbroscratcher

jji10 wrote:
braxbroscratcher wrote:
jji10 wrote:
PrincessPanda_test_ wrote:
Now we're getting off topic. There's no complete evidence that violent video games are aggressive behavior. It may vary for some people, but averagely, people don't show any aggression.now on topic.
That was actually on topic, but whatever.
Actually - the evidence all says that yes it does, but no more than other media, such as books or movies.
Well duh. That's why we don't let kids read/watch/play adult material.

yes - but the ST keeps even cartoon violence (e.g. what you'd find in cartoons/movies/books/games recommended for kids) hidden away like it's adult content. Which it is not. They're a little too strict, to be honest, but reasonably so - they don't want to be flamed by misinformed parents.

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Cub56

braxbroscratcher wrote:
yes - but the ST keeps even cartoon violence (e.g. what you'd find in cartoons/movies/books/games recommended for kids) hidden away like it's adult content. Which it is not. They're a little too strict, to be honest, but reasonably so - they don't want to be flamed by misinformed parents.

I think it would be unreasonable for parents to complain about said cartoon violence. This is exactly what I mean about the Scratch Team keeping cartoon violence hidden away.

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