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monstermash3
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Just add the rest of the keys already

mozartscratch wrote:

I really think you should add those keys 'cause I need enter key for entering a level and escape key to pause my game. At least make it possible to place join_ _ blocks in key _ Pressed? blocks.

Here are some examples:

< key |Enter| pressed?> enter
<key(join / _)pressed?> /
<key |Esc| pressed?> esc
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Also, I think some of these are available in hacked blocks, but I don't know how to get those. I have seen them in other people's projects though.

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mozartscratch
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Just add the rest of the keys already

pleee (excess letters removed by moderator - please don't spam) aaaase

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monstermash3
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mozartscratch wrote:

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Please don't spam. Create your own topic if you are suggesting specific keys.

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mozartscratch
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The hacked blocks have very weird symbols and it's really hard to tell apart. Escape doesn't work either and I need it for my game(s).

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TheAwesomeMaster
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I actually made a topic about this, but closed it as someone said it was a duplicate. I didn't even bother reading what the duplicate was about, then it was closed.

Support, I've always wanted this.

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monstermash3
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Just add the rest of the keys already

mozartscratch wrote:

The hacked blocks have very weird symbols and it's really hard to tell apart. Escape doesn't work either and I need it for my game(s).
By “weird symbols”, do you mean like the two dashes on the square block?

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nickwasp
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Just add the rest of the keys already

I SUPPORT to the max

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Leadrien2366
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Just add the rest of the keys already

Support.
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Just add the rest of the keys already

Kyle2Death wrote:

VoltageGames wrote:

Kyle2Death wrote:

MeDiaMond wrote:

AonymousGuy wrote:

Not enter, it is used for starting the project.

As for a lot of other keys, they can't be reliably detected by Flash because they are named different things for different keyboards, so that would end up causing a lot of confusion when some people could use projects which other people couldn't.
You're right Ithink, but how could griffpatch make a hack then?

I don't spport people who breake Scratch bounderys by hacking to get features thay need. Scratch was ment to be easy to learn.
It IS easy to learn! And people can get more useful tools thanks to griffpatch! Really, I'm surprised nobody thought of this during 1.4

It was meant to be a bad thing.
The thing is that if you get something from hacking, you have an adventage over most others, and hacking is different from Scratch so not many people know how to hack. People have to use what thay get, not from people that has more then others then taking from it. I do NOT support hacked games for Scratch and never will.
He didn't actually ‘hack’ it. But either way, it seems like your whole philosophy is anti-remixing. And no, Griff has no advantage over others. Someone could just open up his project and take a copy of the block if they liked. Such is the nature of Scratch.

Anyway, Griff simply worked around the editor's constraints while not breaking his code by downloading the .sb2, renaming it to a .zip, then extracting and opening the .json and tweaking things. I know this because I've done it a lot for simple things like dropdowns on custom blocks.

Got here from a dupe and yes, I support. Just don't like the idea of ignoring ‘hacks’ as they're easy to do - anyone who can extract .zip's (If you've got WinZip, 7-Zip, or so on, you can) can do it - it's as simple as opening a .json in a text editor and changing a few lines.

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JonathanSchaffer
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MeDiaMond wrote:

+1 Support!

chooper100 wrote:

support :: control

derpmeup wrote:

Support!

Mickey_Fan wrote:

Seems good. Support.

Z-zap wrote:

Support!
why?

derpmeup wrote:

<key [backspace v] pressed?> // category=sensing
?????

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stickfiregames
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JonathanSchaffer wrote:

some people wrote:

support
why?
The “don't just say support” rule has only been around for about half a year, so there's no point picking on 3-year-old posts about it.

Support for more keys if I haven't already, but it should be limited to keys that are found on most keyboards.

Dylan5797 wrote:

VoltageGames wrote:

-snip-
It IS easy to learn! And people can get more useful tools thanks to griffpatch! Really, I'm surprised nobody thought of this during 1.4
In 1.4 Scratch had it's own file format that couldn't be hacked
It could be hacked - remember shift-click-R?

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tcman2006
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VoltageGames wrote:

Kyle2Death wrote:

MeDiaMond wrote:

AonymousGuy wrote:

Not enter, it is used for starting the project.

As for a lot of other keys, they can't be reliably detected by Flash because they are named different things for different keyboards, so that would end up causing a lot of confusion when some people could use projects which other people couldn't.
You're right Ithink, but how could griffpatch make a hack then?

I don't spport people who breake Scratch bounderys by hacking to get features thay need. Scratch was ment to be easy to learn.
It IS easy to learn! And people can get more useful tools thanks to griffpatch! Really, I'm surprised nobody thought of this during 1.4
Well, Obviously griffpatch made a big part in all this.
meatballbrothergames
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Just add the rest of the keys already

I think that a few more keys should be added (like the Enter or [ keys) but not every single one. Some computers don't have every key (for instance, some chrome books don't have caps lock) and this would limit some people from using certain projects.
<key [caps lockv] pressed?>
<key [FNv] pressed?>
<key [PG UP] pressed?>

Last edited by meatballbrothergames (Feb. 8, 2017 02:27:59)

awesome5185
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Just add the rest of the keys already

Kyle2Death wrote:

MeDiaMond wrote:

AonymousGuy wrote:

Not enter, it is used for starting the project.

As for a lot of other keys, they can't be reliably detected by Flash because they are named different things for different keyboards, so that would end up causing a lot of confusion when some people could use projects which other people couldn't.
You're right Ithink, but how could griffpatch make a hack then?

I don't spport people who breake Scratch bounderys by hacking to get features thay need. Scratch was ment to be easy to learn.

Your spelling bro

Yes, Scratch is meant to be easy to learn, however once people get to know it, it becomes, frankly, too easy. These “ATS” Advanced Topic Scratchers like to mod scratch or find these cool little tricks. People who are still learning might not be attracted to these things, but others certainly are.

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<Snip>

braxbroscratcher wrote:

Anyway, Griff simply worked around the editor's constraints while not breaking his code by downloading the .sb2, renaming it to a .zip, then extracting and opening the .json and tweaking things. I know this because I've done it a lot for simple things like dropdowns on custom blocks.

Got here from a dupe and yes, I support. Just don't like the idea of ignoring ‘hacks’ as they're easy to do - anyone who can extract .zip's (If you've got WinZip, 7-Zip, or so on, you can) can do it - it's as simple as opening a .json in a text editor and changing a few lines.

ah! Thanks for that tip! I should have known ._.

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awesome5185
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Scratcher1002 wrote:

Support, since the ‘workaround’ requires a hack.

I don't think it's a hack, more of a mod. (Modification)

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meatballbrothergames wrote:

I think that a few more keys should be added (like the Enter or [ keys) but not every single one. Some computers don't have every key (for instance, some chromebooks don't have caps lock) and this would limit some people from using certain projects.
<key [caps lockv] pressed?>
<key [FNv] pressed?>
<key [PG UP] pressed?>

chromebooks have a caps lock it's alt+search.


savaka
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Just add the rest of the keys already

meatballbrothergames wrote:

I think that a few more keys should be added (like the Enter or [ keys) but not every single one. Some computers don't have every key (for instance, some chrome books don't have caps lock) and this would limit some people from using certain projects.
<key [caps lockv] pressed?>
<key [FNv] pressed?>
<key [PG UP] pressed?>

(slightly off topic)
AFAIK computers can't detect the Fn key at all, it is only used by the keyboard.

Also I do not support the windows key or menu key

Last edited by savaka (Feb. 8, 2017 20:37:03)

dvargasews
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Just add the rest of the keys already

Kyle2Death wrote:

Tramcrazy wrote:

I support this idea. Also, you should be able to get to a key quickly rather than having to scroll through a huge list.

I got a better idea, when you select what key you want, you just type it in and not use the list.
I think that the dropdown list would still be important for
<key [any v] pressed?>
, but I'd support being able to insert a join block like
<key (join [\] []) pressed?>
to detect if the \ key was pressed, etc….

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